Oops double post
Last edited by PacersHomer; 12-18-2013 at 11:12 PM.
"It's just unfortunate that we've been penalized so much this year and nothing has happened to the Pistons, the Palace or the city of Detroit," he said. "It's almost like it's always our fault. The league knows it. They should be ashamed of themselves to let the security be as lax as it is around here."
----------------- Reggie Miller
"We've got to be very clear about this. We don't want our players hanging around with murderers," said Larry Bird, Pacers president.
Unfortunately, it seems like fatigue from having the defensive intensity that we have is starting to take its toll. Hopefully Danny coming back will allow enough different looks that most of our starters can have their minutes reduced. Likely will be rough for several games (maybe part of the current problem is working Danny into the plan during practices offensively?) but hopefully will work itself out for the rest of the season.
I've looked at the replay a lot, it looked like PG was jumping forward, wasn't just a pure push by LeBron.
It's disappointing to see this team slide back after such a great start. The 16-1 start deluded us into thinking we were better than we actually are. 53-57 wins is where I see this team.
Ok, so we lost this game, but does anyone else truly think Miami is the better team right now? Our biggest asset vs them played 23 minutes and we looked better than them still for around 40/48 minutes. I just don't see them beating us in a series. Especially if Danny comes back healthy. Be negative all you want, and say we are 4-4 in the last 8, but lets be honest, 3 of those losses were expected, and this last game was just lost mentally. Still have a lot of faith that we are the best team in the NBA
I am a firm believer that if Paul George were handed a baby late in a game he'd drop it off his foot out of bounds.
The pieces are there, but unless the team starts playing higher IQ basketball they will be watching the Finals from home again this year. Davis West is the only guy tonight that I would say played high IQ basketball.
Brownjake has it right. Roy plays 20 mins. and we still had them by the throat most of the way. DWade conjures up an old game to save them. Hopefully Lance was taking notes because school was in the 2nd half.
After Queen James and the flopper, they are massive amounts of suckage. We gave it away. We are the much better BB team. Much.
We are the better team. But I seriously do take this game as evidence that the refs will not let us win a series against that team.
In the final six minutes. you saw Lance and George getting thrown to the ground. Birdman going over the back repeatedly. Bosh tripping Hibbert. All no calls. And thats not even mentioned the less egregious foul on George by Lebron.
The simple fact is that the NBA is a business.
New York gets more national TV games because they will make the NBA more money. In much the same way the Heat making the finals even if they were to eventually lose makes the NBA more money. Could you imagine a Portland/Indiana Finals. Stern would probably just go ahead and retire a few weeks early. Basketball purists would love it, but it would probably be bad for the league.
Yes. They are the defending champions and have beat us two straight seasons. They have the best player in the world, and if D-Wade keeps playing like he has lately (certainly no guarantees), then they still have the best two players in a series against us. PG is better than D-Wade from a physical ability standpoint, but D-Wade gets the edge over him if he keeps playing like this because of the mental toughness and experience.
I just don't see how you can say you don't see them beating us in a series when they have knocked us out two straight years. To eliminate a team with Lebron James, almost everything is going to have to go perfect. First and foremost, we must get HCA. Secondly, this team must have a reliable wing off of the bench who can take a bit of the pressure off of PG and contribute some scoring in key playoff situations. Those of us who were saying that the bench isn't good enough aren't a bunch of spoiled whiners who lack appreciation for what we've watched. It's quite the opposite actually. We love this team and understand its potential. But we want to maximize its chances, because to beat Miami in May, we're going to have to be near perfect. If Granger can comeback and prove that he can consistently be relied upon off the bench, then problem solved. If not, then we need to look at making a move. Our opportunity is too great to leave any stone unturned.
Miami is just so mentally tough and is able to kick it into an extra gear, particularly in South Beach. Gonna be hard to beat them 4 times.
Last edited by Sollozzo; 12-18-2013 at 11:29 PM.
Paul George: 25 points, 50% shooting, 33% from three, 7-8 ft's, 8 rebounds, 6 assists, 2 steals, 3 turnovers
LeBron James: 24 points, 57% shooting, 33% from three, 7-7 ft's, 9 rebounds, 7 assists, 3 steals, 3 turnovers
About as much of a stand-still as you can get there, Wade was the killer, being efficient on 25 shots. I bet he takes the next 3 weeks off though.
----------------- Reggie Miller
You could see it happening midway through the 4th quarter. Sure the Pacers still had the lead, but The Heat were getting easier shots while the Pacers were slowly walking the ball up, slowly getting into their offense and slowly moving the ball and holding the ball, fighting the shot clock, and then having to throw up hero shots. They hit a few, which allowed the Pacers to keep a 6 point lead for the most part. But I knew that could not least, as the Heat were getting easier shots and kept getting easier shots. And then they got a couple of run-outs and pulled the game out.
Overall though I could watch these two teams play every night. It is a great , great matchup to watch. Contrasting styles. It is so fun to watch.
Sideshow has been removed. Look, on the one hand, if you have a problem with someone, stop with this nonsense about being too good or too big to use the ignore list, and just friggin' use it. Better to use the damn list than to keep getting stirred up and in turn complaining about it on the board. Just do it or stop talking about it; either way.
Secondly, other people should be more mindful how their words, in the context of saying them on a fan site (right after a game that has drawn a crowd to the board and while everyone's tempers are short no less) can incite certain types of responses, and be a little more considerate about how they choose to express themselves. There's a fine line between having your own opinions and saying things that are inviting a response!