Page 1 of 6 12345 ... LastLast
Results 1 to 25 of 174

Thread: George Hill problem ?

Hybrid View

  1. #1
    Member funk31's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Location
    Mongolia
    Posts
    56

    Default George Hill problem ?

    He really playing bad this season! needs to step up 0.00000001% at least.

  2. The Following User Says Thank You to funk31 For This Useful Post:


  3. #2

    Default Re: George Hill problem ?

    He's playing like a wimp. I just refer to him as "Aw Shucks" George Hill when he looks like this. Layup is better option than that horrendous pass to the corner he tried to make, and he looked for his shot maybe 3 or 4 times all game. He's way too willing to be pass up shots, be passive, and his defense doesn't justify it.

    What sucks is that when he steps into shots decisively, he usually sinks them.

  4. The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to Dr. Hibbert For This Useful Post:


  5. #3

    Default Re: George Hill problem ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Hibbert View Post
    This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
    He's playing like a wimp. I just refer to him as "Aw Shucks" George Hill when he looks like this. Layup is better option than that horrendous pass to the corner he tried to make, and he looked for his shot maybe 3 or 4 times all game. He's way too willing to be pass up shots, be passive, and his defense doesn't justify it.

    What sucks is that when he steps into shots decisively, he usually sinks them.
    QFT, Don't understand why either, he knows we win games when he is aggressive, but he just plays with no fire, I think he is reading to much Pacers Digest about him not being a PG and passing to much. But Hill is perfect when he attacking the basket

  6. The Following User Says Thank You to immortality For This Useful Post:


  7. #4

    Default Re: George Hill problem ?

    Quote Originally Posted by immortality View Post
    This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
    QFT, Don't understand why either, he knows we win games when he is aggressive, but he just plays with no fire, I think he is reading to much Pacers Digest about him not being a PG and passing to much. But Hill is perfect when he attacking the basket
    He doesn't even need to be a "true PG" on this team. I'm totally fine if initiating the offense is distributed between Lance, Hill and PG. Problem is, if he's not going to initiate, he can't just back off entirely...and too often, he does. Also losing count of how many times he catches the ball with an open look for three but hesitates instead of stepping into it right away...then misses.

    If anyone kept such micro stats, I'd be fascinated to see his 3P% stepping into a shot versus hesitating. It has to be an incredible statistical swing.

  8. #5
    Indiana Pacers Forever Pacer Fan's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2011
    Location
    ya
    Posts
    3,735

    Default Re: George Hill problem ?

    As sad as this thread is, I can't help but smile. I have always said Hill was overpaid by 2-3 mil per year and he should be coming off the bench competing for 6th man award.

    He has never played good defense against speedy guards, even DC was bailing him out at times and that's pretty bad. He has never had a passing game. Even tho I'd like to see him drive more, it scares the crap out of me cause he is somewhat on the frail side. He is prolly our best shooter but its like we see it on his terms all to often. But with all this said, I don't see an alternative at this point except a trade and only the team and coaches know what kind of negative impact it would make.

    I guess my dream scenario would be, trade Hill, Copeland, 2016 1st rnd, 2014 & 2015 2nd rnd picks for Rondo after Rondo starts playing in Jan. and shows he's healthy. But this would make it tough to get Lance signed and stay within luxury tax.

    I don't have complete faith in Lance to just hand him the keys in a mental aspect. I don't question his ability at all, just his mental control.
    .

    Frank Vogel says "Killer instinct, start strong, build a lead and then step on their throats."

  9. #6
    Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2013
    Location
    Indy
    Posts
    221
    Mood

    Sports Logo Sports Logo Sports Logo Sports Logo Sports Logo

    Default Re: George Hill problem ?

    We were so stuck when he had the ball in his hands tonight. Killing the clock. Ball 28 ft from the basket. Damn I wish he would just put his head down and go to the basket as opposed to doing a superb Travis Best pounding nails impersonation.

  10. The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to seeker80 For This Useful Post:


  11. #7
    Member funk31's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Location
    Mongolia
    Posts
    56

    Default Re: George Hill problem ?

    misses a lot of open 3s, beaten by almost every pg of opposing team.

  12. #8

    Default Re: George Hill problem ?

    We have more of a Hibbert problem than a George Hill Problem

  13. #9
    Member funk31's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Location
    Mongolia
    Posts
    56

    Default Re: George Hill problem ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mad-Mad-Mario View Post
    This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
    We have more of a Hibbert problem than a George Hill Problem
    why ?

  14. The Following User Says Thank You to funk31 For This Useful Post:


  15. #10
    Member funk31's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Location
    Mongolia
    Posts
    56

    Default Re: George Hill problem ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mad-Mad-Mario View Post
    This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
    Have you seen Hibbert play lately?
    i watched all game this season.

  16. #11
    Member Ace E.Anderson's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2011
    Location
    Indiana
    Posts
    5,061

    Sports Logo Sports Logo Sports Logo Sports Logo

    Default Re: George Hill problem ?

    I've looooong been a George Hill supporter..but he's played poorly this year. He's lacked aggressiveness/decisiveness, and his defense has been inconsistent. I am not too much fan of a fan of Lance but he's been a better point guard while playing the two, than Hill has.

    Hopefully it's just a slow start, but Hill's inconsistent play is quite frustrating for such a veteran player who has demonstrated the ability to be quite good.

  17. The Following 5 Users Say Thank You to Ace E.Anderson For This Useful Post:


  18. #12
    Member naptownmenace's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Location
    Cincinnati, Ohio
    Posts
    4,614

    Sports Logo Sports Logo

    Default Re: George Hill problem ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ace E.Anderson View Post
    This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
    I've looooong been a George Hill supporter..but he's played poorly this year. He's lacked aggressiveness/decisiveness, and his defense has been inconsistent. I am not too much fan of a fan of Lance but he's been a better point guard while playing the two, than Hill has.

    Hopefully it's just a slow start, but Hill's inconsistent play is quite frustrating for such a veteran player who has demonstrated the ability to be quite good.
    I can understand why his ppg is down and I expected that with Paul George and Lance's improvements as scorers. I figured that his shots and touches would decrease. What I don't understand is why he's only shooting 40% this season. He's regressed in almost every statistical category this season. These are his numbers over the last 10 games:

    PPG: 8.8
    REB: 4.3
    AST: 3.7
    STL: 1.2
    FG%: .380

    He's given the Pacers next to nothing offensively in their last 4 losses. Here's his averages in the 5 Pacers loses this season:

    PPG: 7.0
    REB: 3.2
    AST: 4.0
    STL: 1.6
    FG%: .270

    Just to be fair, I should also point out how he's played better in more games than he has bad games. Still this just illustrates how his lack of production has directly contributed to 4 of the Pacers 5 losses.
    Quote Originally Posted by vnzla81
    This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
    Larry is not coming back, he didn't have a meeting with Orlando for not reason, yeah he is coming back to the NBA but not to the Pacers, the notion that he is a taking a year off and then come back is absurd.
    Quote Originally Posted by Trader Joe View Post
    This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
    GOOD GOD THAT'S LARRY BIRD'S MUSIC!

  19. The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to naptownmenace For This Useful Post:


  20. #13
    Member PR07's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2006
    Posts
    4,904

    Sports Logo Sports Logo Sports Logo Sports Logo

    Default Re: George Hill problem ?

    Right now, Hill is the 5th option in a very talented Pacers' lineup. I think it hurts his aggressiveness because he doesn't have a clear role except for spot-up shooter. Nevertheless, he has to work on his passing and handles. Sometimes, he dribbles the ball like it's soaked in oil.

  21. #14

    Default Re: George Hill problem ?

    Hill is so bad.

  22. #15
    Member luis3ep's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2010
    Location
    indianapolis
    Posts
    247

    Default Re: George Hill problem ?



    Condescending

    he is the weak link of the starting 5. Go look back at all our games when we face a good point guard.. see anything in common? That point guard has a great game. Hill gives it his all and truly wants to help this team, but he doesn't come up big when it matters. He'll give you the occasional game or two that leaves you wondering if you had it all wrong, but then you quickly remember why you want to upgrade that position when we play against a good team. For someone with his athleticism, he sure does let his players past him quite a bit, which is a little perplexing. He isn't much of a creator, he over dribbles while looking for a good play/pass, but he doesn't have the vision necessary to make good plays. I do NOT dislike him, i just don't think he's a starter for a championship caliber team, unless they change his role and let Lance handle the ball more, or if somehow he was a 6th man, or just flat out trading him.

  23. The Following User Says Thank You to luis3ep For This Useful Post:


  24. #16
    Member The Godfather's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2010
    Location
    Fishers, IN
    Posts
    71

    Sports Logo Sports Logo Sports Logo Sports Logo

    Default Re: George Hill problem ?

    You don't pay someone 8 million dollars to not be good at anything. If you cant pass, shoot, or not turn the ball over you have no business making that kind of money. I've had it with Hill.
    PACE YOURSELF

  25. The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to The Godfather For This Useful Post:


  26. #17
    Member funk31's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Location
    Mongolia
    Posts
    56

    Default Re: George Hill problem ?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Godfather View Post
    This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
    You don't pay someone 8 million dollars to not be good at anything. If you cant pass, shoot, or not turn the ball over you have no business making that kind of money. I've had it with Hill.
    Totally agree, i don't dislike him, he just need to play little better.

  27. #18

    Default Re: George Hill problem ?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Godfather View Post
    This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
    You don't pay someone 8 million dollars to not be good at anything. If you cant pass, shoot, or not turn the ball over you have no business making that kind of money. I've had it with Hill.
    I think he's fine for this team. He just plays scared vs the Heat. He always comes up short in this series.

  28. #19

    Default Re: George Hill problem ?

    You think he's fine for this team yet he plays scared against the Heat. Some of you make me laugh out loud. You would defend anything just because you like the guy.

  29. #20

    Default Re: George Hill problem ?

    Quote Originally Posted by doctor-h View Post
    This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
    You think he's fine for this team yet he plays scared against the Heat. Some of you make me laugh out loud. You would defend anything just because you like the guy.
    I suppose. He played fine against the Heat last year. Why don't you try breaking down his game if you think your opinion is so based on fact

  30. #21

    Default Re: George Hill problem ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mad-Mad-Mario View Post
    This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
    I suppose. He played fine against the Heat last year. Why don't you try breaking down his game if you think your opinion is so based on fact
    Excuse me??? Cole and Chalmers had their way against Hill all series last year. Hill struggled to even bring the ball up the court without turning it over last year and we all know that the next time Hill successfully feeds the post will be the first time. Hill is a highly overpaid backup combo guard whom we should have never given up Leonard's rights for.

  31. The Following 9 Users Say Thank You to croz24 For This Useful Post:


  32. #22

    Default Re: George Hill problem ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mad-Mad-Mario View Post
    This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
    I suppose. He played fine against the Heat last year. Why don't you try breaking down his game if you think your opinion is so based on fact
    He gives inconsistent effort. Cannot iniciate offense, can't feed the post, can't defend any decent point guard, is not a leader, is a terrible decision maker and has no passion. He reminds me of the YMCA player who always claims he plays better stoned. He is in his own little world.

  33. The Following User Says Thank You to doctor-h For This Useful Post:


  34. #23
    All Hail CJ Watson! Nuntius's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2012
    Location
    Somewhere in Southern Europe
    Posts
    18,860

    Sports Logo

    Default Re: George Hill problem ?

    The only problem that George Hill has this season is that he needs to look for his shot more. That's all.
    Tonight, all flags must burn, in place of steeples.
    Autonomy must return into the hands of the people.

    Panopticon

    -------------

    CJ Watson - 20 points on 6/10 shooting!

    13/4/2014

  35. #24
    Member hoosierguy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Location
    Indiana
    Posts
    4,464

    Default Re: George Hill problem ?

    This team would be darn near unstoppable with Kawhi Leonard. Trades like this are why the Spurs are the Spurs and the Pacers are at best close but no cigar.

  36. #25
    Redemption. docpaul's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Location
    Noblesville, IN
    Posts
    1,684

    Default Re: George Hill problem ?

    Quote Originally Posted by hoosierguy View Post
    This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
    This team would be darn near unstoppable with Kawhi Leonard. Trades like this are why the Spurs are the Spurs and the Pacers are at best close but no cigar.
    Dude. Kawhi Leonard would have been more deeply buried in a position of strength for us, especially at the time when we thought that Granger was healthy/well.

    It was the right move, at the right time. You can only make calls with the information you have at the time you make them.

  37. The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to docpaul For This Useful Post:


Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •