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  • Re: Week 15: vs Texans

    Who said they came out of nowhere? What point does that make? KC was 2-14 last year, the complete opposite of Balt.

    My point still stands, guys, lol.... I'm not throwing in the towel just because we had a little lull. KC could beat us, but we could beat them, too.
    There are two types of quarterbacks in the league: Those whom over time, the league figures out ... and those who figure out the league.

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    • Re: Week 15: vs Texans

      Originally posted by Kid Minneapolis View Post
      Who said they came out of nowhere? What point does that make? KC was 2-14 last year, the complete opposite of Balt.
      Well you said that they "backed into the playoffs", which was true. But they had shown years worth of repeated playoff success for the previous four seasons. Even though they backed into the playoffs, them getting hot and going on a run wasn't really a surprise.

      I'm just saying that Baltimore had experience to fall back on. Outside of a couple players, the Colts don't. I think it would be a major major surprise if they got to the AFC Title game. I'm not saying it's impossible, but it's just hard for me to buy into until I see them compete for once against a non divisional team.

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      • Re: Week 15: vs Texans

        I honestly think you're in "what have you done for me lately" mindset, which is a typical NFL fan's mindset. I know you don't have any faith in this team, but this team has played closer to high-level football this year than not. They played 8 really good weeks of football, followed by 4 bad ones. The "norm" for this team is good football, not this past month. They've already shown this year they can play at a high level, beating Denver, San Fran, and Seattle... they can play good football. They just got off track. I think they'ree starting to get back on.
        There are two types of quarterbacks in the league: Those whom over time, the league figures out ... and those who figure out the league.

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          Originally posted by Sollozzo View Post
          Well you said that they "backed into the playoffs", which was true. But they had shown years worth of repeated playoff success for the previous four seasons. Even though they backed into the playoffs, them getting hot and going on a run wasn't really a surprise.

          I'm just saying that Baltimore had experience to fall back on. Outside of a couple players, the Colts don't. I think it would be a major major surprise if they got to the AFC Title game. I'm not saying it's impossible, but it's just hard for me to buy into until I see them compete for once against a non divisional team.
          And KC had the first pick in the draft last year. What experience are they falling back on? The Colts at least made the playoffs last year. There's no reason to believe that this Indy team can't get a head of steam and beat KC. Remember --- this game will be in Indy.
          There are two types of quarterbacks in the league: Those whom over time, the league figures out ... and those who figure out the league.

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            Of course fans look at 'what have you done for me lately'.... because that is the most recent indication of where a team is at. It's compounded by the fact that earlier success was before a rash of injuries decimated the team.

            None of that is saying a team can't figure it out, get the 'next man up' up to speed, and then get it going again. But you can't automatically assume that is going to happen when recent history is showing the team is absolutely struggling against any real competition at all.
            Nuntius was right for a while. I was wrong for a while. But ultimately I was right and Frank Vogel has been let go.

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              Originally posted by Kid Minneapolis View Post
              I honestly think you're in "what have you done for me lately" mindset, which is a typical NFL fan's mindset. I know you don't have any faith in this team, but this team has played closer to high-level football this year than not. They played 8 really good weeks of football, followed by 4 bad ones. The "norm" for this team is good football, not this past month. They've already shown this year they can play at a high level, beating Denver, San Fran, and Seattle... they can play good football. They just got off track. I think they'ree starting to get back on.

              No faith in this team? Lol, I've said multiple times over the last couple of weeks that I feel they can win a wildcard game with the home crowd behind them, which I think would make the season a smashing success given all of the injuries and relative youth. Do I think that they can go into Denver/New England and a win a divisional game to put them into the AFC championship? No, I don't think that will happen. So I guess that if "having faith in them" is only quantified by believing that they are a top four team in the entire NFL, then no I don't guess I have faith in them.......

              Yes, we played 8 really good weeks of football, followed by 4 bad ones which came immediately after losing one of the greatest receivers in NFL history who was a security blanket for our young QB. It's not as if we just inexplicably got off track for no reason. We got off track in large part because we lost an elite offensive threat and there is simply no one on the roster who can replace him. Sure there are other factors (O-Line, play calling, decline in defense) that messed us up, but the injury to Wayne is by far the worst thing to happen to the team this season. It's no coincidence that the quality of play IMMEDIATELY went downhill after that. To beat an elite team on the road in the divisional round, I feel that we need an elite high quality playmaker outside of the QB. We don't have one. We always had Harrison or Wayne (often both) in the Manning years, and we had Wayne with Luck from last year until the first half of this season. I like T.Y's speed, but he just doesn't yet have the ability to consistently get open in sticky situations.

              Some injuries are too much to overcome. The Pats have the greatest QB-head coaching duo in NFL history, yet look at how pedestrian that offense looks when you take the elite Gronkowski out of the equation. So yes, I do feel that our AFC Title game/Super Bowl hopes died the day Wayne got hurt. I'd love nothing more than to be proven wrong.

              I just don't see much evidence for us getting back on track yet. It's going to take more than garbage points in Cincy and a home win against a 2 win Texans team to convince me. If we put up a decent performance in KC (not saying we have to win), then maybe I'll start to become a believer in improvement. But since the Wayne injury, the team has done nothing but beat AFC South teams while getting beat by everyone else. I don't have a "what have you done mentality" mindset. I'm looking at 7 games worth of evidence since the Denver game. It's been the same theme over that period: win against the South, lose badly against everyone else.
              Last edited by Sollozzo; 12-16-2013, 01:22 PM.

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              • Re: Week 15: vs Texans

                Originally posted by Kid Minneapolis View Post
                And KC had the first pick in the draft last year. What experience are they falling back on? The Colts at least made the playoffs last year. There's no reason to believe that this Indy team can't get a head of steam and beat KC. Remember --- this game will be in Indy.
                Which is why I've consistently said for a couple of weeks that I feel they have a legitimate chance to win the wildcard game here. But no, I don't think they can do much beyond that. I'd love nothing more than to be wrong.

                With everything that has happened this season, I would consider a wildcard win to be a HUGE success, regardless of what would happen the following week.

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                  Based on how KC has played the last couple weeks I'm not so sure we have a great chance of beating them at home. They are going to toy with us next week I feel
                  Don't ask Marvin Harrison what he did during the bye week. "Batman never told where the Bat Cave is," he explained.

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                    Originally posted by Bball View Post
                    Of course fans look at 'what have you done for me lately'.... because that is the most recent indication of where a team is at. It's compounded by the fact that earlier success was before a rash of injuries decimated the team.

                    None of that is saying a team can't figure it out, get the 'next man up' up to speed, and then get it going again. But you can't automatically assume that is going to happen when recent history is showing the team is absolutely struggling against any real competition at all.
                    I'm assuming no more than most of you who are assuming we'll get ousted early. The only guy of note that we lost is Reggie Wayne. Sucks, but we can overcome it. Most of our big hits were taken much earlier in the season, and we continued to play strongly. We were a strong team for the first 2 months. We experienced a lull. We're still in the same season; still the same team, same staff, same players --- I'm no less incorrect for assuming that we *could* or even *likely* could return to a much stronger form, than assuming we'll continue sucking. And we haven't actually continued sucking. The last 6 quarters, we've seen improvement. Or more of a "return to form".
                    There are two types of quarterbacks in the league: Those whom over time, the league figures out ... and those who figure out the league.

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                    • Re: Week 15: vs Texans

                      Originally posted by Sollozzo View Post
                      No faith in this team? Lol, I've said multiple times over the last couple of weeks that I feel they can win a wildcard game with the home crowd behind them, which I think would make the season a smashing success given all of the injuries and relative youth. Do I think that they can go into Denver/New England and a win a divisional game to put them into the AFC championship? No, I don't think that will happen. So I guess that if "having faith in them" is only quantified by believing that they are a top four team in the entire NFL, then no I don't guess I have faith in them.......

                      Yes, we played 8 really good weeks of football, followed by 4 bad ones which came immediately after losing one of the greatest receivers in NFL history who was a security blanket for our young QB. It's not as if we just inexplicably got off track for no reason. We got off track in large part because we lost an elite offensive threat and there is simply no one on the roster who can replace him. Sure there are other factors (O-Line, play calling, decline in defense) that messed us up, but the injury to Wayne is by far the worst thing to happen to the team this season. It's no coincidence that the quality of play IMMEDIATELY went downhill after that. To beat an elite team on the road in the divisional round, I feel that we need an elite high quality playmaker outside of the QB. We don't have one. We always had Harrison or Wayne (often both) in the Manning years, and we had Wayne with Luck from last year until the first half of this season. I like T.Y's speed, but he just doesn't yet have the ability to consistently get open in sticky situations.

                      Some injuries are too much to overcome. The Pats have the greatest QB-head coaching duo in NFL history, yet look at how pedestrian that offense looks when you take the elite Gronkowski out of the equation. So yes, I do feel that our AFC Title game/Super Bowl hopes died the day Wayne got hurt. I'd love nothing more than to be proven wrong.

                      I just don't see much evidence for us getting back on track yet. It's going to take more than garbage points in Cincy and a home win against a 2 win Texans team to convince me. If we put up a decent performance in KC (not saying we have to win), then maybe I'll start to become a believer in improvement. But since the Wayne injury, the team has done nothing but beat AFC South teams while getting beat by everyone else. I don't have a "what have you done mentality" mindset. I'm looking at 7 games worth of evidence since the Denver game. It's been the same theme over that period: win against the South, lose badly against everyone else.
                      If I read you wrong, I apologize, but your tone of late has been pretty negative, sort of a defeatist tone. Sure, we weren't playing good football period in November, we got out of our groove. When you're not playing well, you look bad against anyone. I think we're starting to get our groove back. Just like Pagano and Luck, you have to forget yesterday and look forward. Just because we sucked in November doesn't mean it has to remain that way... it shouldn't actually. I still think we have a decent team. They just had a bit of a month-long brainfart. I think the loss of Wayne threw them for a loop, but there's no reason they can't get back on track.
                      There are two types of quarterbacks in the league: Those whom over time, the league figures out ... and those who figure out the league.

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                      • Re: Week 15: vs Texans

                        Originally posted by Kid Minneapolis View Post
                        I'm assuming no more than most of you who are assuming we'll get ousted early. The only guy of note that we lost is Reggie Wayne. .
                        Dwyane Allen is definitely worthy of being noted. Same goes for Vick Ballard, Ahmad Bradshaw, and the patchwork dipshits along the offensive line.


                        I didn't watch the game and only have looked at the box score, but from the way Twitter made it seem the Texans just rolled over. They are content to take their #1 overall pick and lose to get there. I applaud your glass half full approach, but I just have a really hard time seeing this team making a run in the playoffs. I do think they can beat Kansas City though. The Chiefs strike me very much as a paper tiger.

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                        • Re: Week 15: vs Texans

                          Originally posted by Kid Minneapolis View Post
                          If I read you wrong, I apologize, but your tone of late has been pretty negative, sort of a defeatist tone. Sure, we weren't playing good football period in November, we got out of our groove. When you're not playing well, you look bad against anyone. I think we're starting to get our groove back. Just like Pagano and Luck, you have to forget yesterday and look forward. Just because we sucked in November doesn't mean it has to remain that way... it shouldn't actually. I still think we have a decent team. They just had a bit of a month-long brainfart. I think the loss of Wayne threw them for a loop, but there's no reason they can't get back on track.
                          I still think we have a decent team too, which is why I think they can win a playoff game. I just think that the dream of being a true Super Bowl contender died with the Wayne injury. I think that there are certain injuries that you can never overcome, and that's one of them. He was so instrumental in the first year and a half of Luck's career. When Luck was in a sticky situation and had to get rid of the ball quickly, Wayne was always finding ways to quickly get open. There's just no one else like that on the roster. I like T.Y.'s talent, but I think that his ceiling will always be as a high end WR2. I don't think that he will ever have what it takes to be a true WR1. He is dangerously fast, but he hasn't yet shown the ability to consistently quickly get open in sticky situations, and he often gets out-muscled for contested balls. I realize that he is not a big guy, but I just think that he will always have certain limitations. Don't get me wrong, I'm a big fan and I hope he's on the team for a while. But with Wayne getting old, we're going to have to look at bringing in another strong receiver.

                          There are certain guys in the NFL who are so important to their teams that they can never be completely replaced. Wayne was one of them. Gronkowski is another. Brady and the Hoodie are great at what they do, but there is simply no making up for the loss of an elite talent like Gronk. They can still succeed without him, but their team will never be quite what it was when he was on the roster. Same with the Colts. We can win games without Wayne, but this offense is just never going to quite be what it was with him. We just simply don't have enough parts. Hilton and Fleener are fine options when they are surrounded by Wayne and Dwyane Allen, but you're spread pretty thin when those are all of the sudden your two best options.

                          I think I'm taking a pretty rational approach. We are 9-5 and should at worst finish 10-6 since there is no way we lose to Jacksonville here. That's a pretty damn solid season when you consider the brutal schedule and hideous injuries. And I feel that we could win the wildcard game at home, which would make the season a smashing success and an improvement over last year. But I just don't think we have enough horses to get to the AFC Title game. It's football and anything can happen, but I'd be stunned if it did. I don't think that's being negative though.

                          I think we can both agree that the upcoming game in Kansas City will be a decent gauge of where we are as a team. If we go in there and compete, then I'll start to buy more stock in the idea of us turning it around. But if we get steamrolled, then I'm going to think that the game yesterday wasn't much more than taking advantage of a 2 win team with a QB who probably shouldn't be in the NFL.
                          Last edited by Sollozzo; 12-16-2013, 05:06 PM.

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                          • Re: Week 15: vs Texans

                            Originally posted by cdash View Post
                            Dwyane Allen is definitely worthy of being noted. Same goes for Vick Ballard, Ahmad Bradshaw, and the patchwork dipshits along the offensive line.
                            Didn't read what I said did ya. I said lately. Repeating myself, but all those guys were lost almost right off the bat and we continued to beat people.
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                            • Re: Week 15: vs Texans

                              Originally posted by Kid Minneapolis View Post
                              Didn't read what I said did ya. I said lately. Repeating myself, but all those guys were lost almost right off the bat and we continued to beat people.
                              Honestly, no, I didn't. I read until I saw something silly and then I commented on it. You and Sollozzo are writing term paper length responses and I am not going to read several pages of those so I can keep up with the conversation. I stand corrected, carry on.

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                              • Re: Week 15: vs Texans

                                We have injuries. They suck. Trouble scoring. Bad 3rd down offense. Pep stupid.
                                Don't ask Marvin Harrison what he did during the bye week. "Batman never told where the Bat Cave is," he explained.

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