You're all smarter than me, so I'll ask smarter folks: why is OJ struggling so much this year? Just not finding his 3pt shot?
Only ask because he seemed to be a perfectly fine part of the rotation late last year. This year, it's almost painful to watch him out there. His 3 is basically a turnover now, and his defense leaves much to be desired as well.
Still plenty of time to turn things around, but just curious where he's specifically seeming to struggle.
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I think some players go through phases, and (as in all sports) consistency (or lack of it) is the biggest reason why a player is good (or not).
In the example of Gerald Green some people have pointed out that our system just didn't work for him.
Maybe the increase in minutes for OJ has changed his role in the system enough that it works against him as well. Being one of the expected wings off the bench for significant minutes is a far cry from being a spot guy coming in for specific reasons against the lower end of the opponents' lineups.
A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.
Or throw in a first-round pick and flip it for a max-level point guard...
I saw OJ shooting practice shots yesterday and he missed all his shots, his form looks off, OJ's problem is not only that he can't hit shots but is also that he is not really a good decision maker anytime he has the ball I'm yelling at somebody to take it away from him(same with Ian).
His D is decent though at least he is not a liability there.
This is a perimeter league and most of the time we have 1 1/2 players putting up a good game from positions 1-3. If George is off, Lance might be on. Hill is half on. And if he is Watson comes in to chuck. If Hill is off, Watson is aggressive. If Lance is off, Paul is on. But then OJ is so off that it negates what Watson or Hill does.
Can we get a player to bring some stability? I don't think we need to. I think with more chemistry and time one of these players will be a steady offensive threat. Lance is close. But I have a feeling that Watson or Hill might play with more consistency.
By the way where is Kareem Rush when you need him? any way we can sign him?
Good news is, we have Granger coming back. Unless Dale Davis finds the fountain of youth, we don't have any incoming solutions to the backup big problem.
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Just b/c a player makes only 4 mil doesn't mean he can suck b/c you can't afford a better upgrade. Excuse me, I mean play poorly.
What I'm about to say I never thought I would ever say it, BUT Mahimii makes Plumlee look like an Allstar. With Miles getting the PT I said he could get if traded to the right team, he has blossomed. Fooled me in that he's looked better than I thought he could, BUT I'm truly truly happy for him.
I've not kept up with the NBA this year as I have in the past, but Mahinmi can't be the best b/u 5 in the NBA. What's available I'm not sure, but I would hope a combination of Mahinmi, Copeland, and OJ should garner a better b/u 5.
I have said for the last couple of years I felt Varejao was the x factor the Pacers needed. Salaries of Mahinmi and Copeland should be close to matching Varejao. Throw in a 2nd plus Stanko as good measure.
If I get the inclination later, I'll go thru the other rosters to see whatelse might be there.
Larry Bird: Yeah, patience.
You must have been watching a different game tonight than I was.
Come on, now. Standalone posts like this are not going to be put up with in future. Say something more constructive than implying someone who disagrees with you wasn't watching the 'real' game. We already moderated one post with this response, leaving this here so people know what we're talking about.
Ian played solid defense. Although he did have some boneheaded plays. He did alot of stuff off the ball really well.
I was always wondering the same when you were critical of Bird.
You only quote one part of my comment. Which went onto say there were flaws in his game.
"damn well" could mean several things. damn well for Hibbert means 25 pts 10 rebounds 5 blocks. damn well for ian is a different measurement. number of variables to factor in. just amusing u snip out the full quote.
Care to give an estimation on Ian's play or just keep it at condescending.
While were at it.. whats your evaluation of Bird these days. I know you were one who never approved but were always willing to at least support your assertions which is honorable.
Still want him run out of the Front Office?
I've stated how I feel Bird has done a great job NUMEROUS TIME! I said when Walsh was in control I wanted Bird back, so just drop it. Find something else to try and start an argument.
I feel Mahinmi game of late has been poor. That's my opinion, and you are more than welcome to disagree with it.