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    There used to be some guy in the sports media that argued triple doubles are overrated, primarily because it's not difficult to get 10 points and also because the assist category is often force-fed late in games. I was talking to a friend today and he agreed, triple doubles are overrated.

    I'd have to disagree. What do you think the all-time win/loss percentage is for games in which a triple-double is recorded? Surely it's very high, like .800 high. Even better, if anyone knows of any way I could find this out myself (without spending hours sifting through historical game logs), that would be even better!
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    I'm unimpressed if you force the stats at the end of a game but if you are playing within the game it tells me you out hustled every other person on that court. So I'm impressed.
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    This sounds like an opinion that gets thrown out there whenever a player nobody is accustomed to seeing get a triple double suddenly gets one or two. Oh if THAT guy can get one, then they must not be all that special...

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    I think it is a milestone of sorts. But it doesn't take a triple double to point out to me that a player has played a very well rounded game. For the most part, when I see Hibbert and West score a double double, when you look at the effort both guys have also put in on the defensive end of the floor, that's just as good as a triple double for me.

    Edit: if you want to talk about quadruple doubles, that's a different story. Those are truly milestones.
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    Triple-doubles are not all the same. If someone is pulling a Lance against Washington and trying to force one there is a good chance he plays bad but gets a triple double. When a triple double comes naturally and the player is efficient, a triple-double is great.

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    Colin Cowherd says this every time a player he doesn't like gets one (last one I remember was John Wall during his rookie season). Is that who you're thinking of?

    Either way, I totally disagree except in the Bob Sura/Andray Blatche types of situations...

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    Colin Cowherd says this every time a player he doesn't like gets one (last one I remember was John Wall during his rookie season). Is that who you're thinking of?
    Actually I was referring to another ESPN personality, Skip Bayless.

    I didn't really want to mention his name because I didn't want the discussion to be about him.

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    If I asked you guys to throw a random winning percentage out there for games in which a team has had a player with a triple-double, what would you guess?

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    Like with more things in life, context is everything.

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    If I asked you guys to throw a random winning percentage out there for games in which a team has had a player with a triple-double, what would you guess?
    60%

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    If I asked you guys to throw a random winning percentage out there for games in which a team has had a player with a triple-double, what would you guess?
    I would wager it is maybe 55-60%... Just because a guy gets a trip-dub, doesnt meant that the team played well and won... It could also could be the result of an extended game, see the other night were Oladipo and MCW both go for one in the same game...

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    If they were overrated, more players would be getting them....it's like saying 40 point games are overrated.

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    A triple double on its own could be overated. Lots of possible scenarios where that could be the case. A player who is a threat to get a triple double on any given night and maintains high rebound & high assist/block averages is likely a very versatile and valuable player.

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    That's the point. You're not probably not ever getting a triple double unless you're very productive in both passing and rebounding, which are two very different skill sets. The points are usually just window dressing.

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    Maybe a little overrated. I like the 20/20/20 club better. 20 points, 20 rebounds and 20 assists. That is what is impressive.

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    Triple double means you were responsible for 50 pts. Score 10 points. 10 assists means you were responsible for at least 20 points. 10 rebounds means you prevented the other team from scoring fg's. Not overrated
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    Maybe a little overrated. I like the 20/20/20 club better. 20 points, 20 rebounds and 20 assists. That is what is impressive.
    http://www.basketball-reference.com/...Y&round_is_ecf

    Basketball Reference's rebound and assist numbers only go back to the 1985-1986 season, but that has happened exactly 0 times in the almost 3 decades since.

    Rajon Rondo has gotten the closest with 18-20-17 in that ridiculous Sunday afternoon game in the 2012 season against the Knicks. Only 3 other players have even had 15-15-15 games in that time frame: Jason Kidd did it twice, Magic Johnson did it twice, and Larry Bird did it once.

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    Wilt chamberlain is the only guy ever to pull it off. Once.

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    There have been 3 quadruple doubles since '85. Hakeem and David Robinson both got one with blocks, and Alvin Robertson got one with steals.

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    Maybe a little overrated. I like the 20/20/20 club better. 20 points, 20 rebounds and 20 assists. That is what is impressive.
    Is this sarcasm

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    Is this sarcasm
    Yes, that is what it is.

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    Yes, that is what it is.
    Was that sarcasm?

    It wasn't about being the team everyone loved, it was about beating the teams everyone else loved.

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    Triple double means you were responsible for 50 pts. Score 10 points. 10 assists means you were responsible for at least 20 points. 10 rebounds means you prevented the other team from scoring fg's. Not overrated
    Not entirely true. Rebounds rarely come from you playing great defense individually (see David Lee and Troy Murphy)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kstat View Post
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    Was that sarcasm?

    Not really, but now that I think about it, maybe a little bit.

    OK, done with all sarcasm

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    Wilt went for 22 points, 25 rebounds, and 21 assists in a 131-121 win on February 2nd, 1968. It was, to date, the only 20-20-20 performance in basketball history, and something no other Sixer has ever got close to accomplishing–Charles Barkley's 15-14-14 against Boston in 1986 was the only time a Liberty Baller even nearly approached a 15-15-15 game.

    http://the700level.com/top-stories/t...020-game-1968/

    Most 15-15-15's ever:


    Oscar Robertson 14
    Wilt Chamberlain 8
    Magic Johnson 3
    Larry Bird 2
    Jason Kidd 2
    Micheal Richardson 2

    the 14 year distance between Kidd's 2 15/15/15 performances is amazing too

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