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    Default Pacers / Blazers Post Game thread - 12/2

    I will chalk part the loss ( but not all of it ) to playing in a B2B game on the road. PG24 reigning down 3s but Hibbert taking 2 knees to the midsection, our bench not effective at keeping the Blazers at bay and Lance fouling out with 2 points.

    I don't like that our defense wasn't able to beat them out in the end....but 47% FG shooting on 33 FTA from the Home Team?

    I'm not sure what is up with Lance....but I hope that he throttle's it down a notch, re-focuses and comes out for the better in the Jazz game. If he just scored his average....we could have won this game.

    Overall....a recipe for disaster.
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    Wish I could have watched this game, even though we lost.

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    This loss will humble the team, great performance by the team. Really proud of our guys. I trust Frank and Co to learn from this game.. Really saddened by Lance, You could tell that it was eating him inside, he really wanted to help the team.

    My only negatives, was the lack of our identity. We didn't grind them out, would have loved to have seen some West and more Hibbo down low. We played at their pace and it wore our big guys down. West looked like he had just finished boxing Ali for 22 rounds, dude was huffing and puffing. But this happened because PG entered the Kobe zone, dude went HAM and lost all consciousness. Can't blame PG , he had one of those special night. We'll be ready and also the Bench has to step it up a little bit more, Ian wasn't Ian tonight.

    All in all, onto Utah..


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    NBA teams lose games, Pacers lost this game. Portland played their hearts out and didn't miss much in the 4th, FG's or FT's.

    PG is on another planet when he so chooses to do so.

    As I've said, Bad Lance gives teams a chance to beat the Pacers.
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    Unfortunately, Lance's bad game cost us dearly tonight. I'm sure that he'll leave this game behind him and bounce back, though.

    Paul George was just amazing tonight. He did everything he could but the Blazers kept their composure and made their FTs so credit to them.

    Last year I understood that we would lose several games so I wasn't very sad after losses but this year is different. I am getting used to winning and losses hurt more.

    In any case, I was proud of our effort tonight
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    Unfortunately, Lance's bad game cost us dearly tonight. I'm sure that he'll leave this game behind him and bounce back, though.
    I didn't watch the 1st half....only the 2nd half. Was Lance really make a significant amount of mistakes?

    I didn't think that he was able to get his offense and "whatever swagger thing he does" going all night long. But I got the sense that with that last scoring drive that he made before fouling out, he would have had the confidence to get his "scoring groove" going.

    For good or bad....emotions ( which affect his confidence ) affect what Lance does. He's got to learn to control his emotions. Lance is like Anakin Skywalker....if he controls his emotions, he can be a great Jedi....if he let's his emotions take the better of him, he will end up as Darth Vader and could turn to the dark side ( a la Artest ).
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    I didn't watch the 1st half....only the 2nd half. Was Lance really make a significant amount of mistakes?

    I didn't think that he was able to get his offense and "whatever swagger thing he does" going all night long. But I got the sense that with that last scoring drive that he made before fouling out, he would have had the confidence to get his "scoring groove" going.

    For good or bad....emotions ( which affect his confidence ) affect what Lance does. He's got to learn to control his emotions. Lance is like Anakin Skywalker....if he controls his emotions, he can be a great Jedi....if he let's his emotions take the better of him, he will end up as Darth Vader and could turn to the dark side ( a la Artest ).
    He didn't really make a lot of mistakes. He was just never able to get into a groove (scoring or assisting) and he racked up fouls.
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    He didn't really make a lot of mistakes. He was just never able to get into a groove (scoring or assisting) and he racked up fouls.
    I thought that "Bad Lance" was about making reckless mistakes/passes/turnovers/taking bad shots. Getting in foul trouble counts....but if he wasn't able to get his scoring going or wasn't able to get the scoring opportunities for everyone else...then that's not really "Bad Lance" making mistakes....just Lance not showing up.

    As I said...I really hope that this becomes "PG24s ZERO pt Warrior" game ( from last season ) where he turns it around.
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    I thought that "Bad Lance" was about making reckless mistakes/passes/turnovers/taking bad shots. Getting in foul trouble counts....but if he wasn't able to get his scoring going or wasn't able to get the scoring opportunities for everyone else...then that's not really "Bad Lance" making mistakes....just Lance not showing up.

    As I said...I really hope that this becomes "PG24s ZERO pt Warrior" game ( from last season ) where he turns it around.
    I didn't use the "bad Lance" phrase, actually. I just said that he had a bad game. Imo, this was mostly a result of foul trouble but it was also the result of the Blazers smart defense. They knew that Lance is our energizer and they made sure that we couldn't give him the ball and get him going.

    I really wish that this is a "PG zero pt Warrior" game for Lance. If that's the case then we're going to be amazing.
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    Wish we took our defense with us on the road trip
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    Wish we took our defense with us on the road trip
    Our defense wasn't a bad as a whole. It was mostly LMA and Mo Williams going off that hurt us. That and the fact that they made 87.9% of their FTs.
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    Our defense wasn't a bad as a whole. It was mostly LMA and Mo Williams going off that hurt us. That and the fact that they made 87.9% of their FTs.
    Don't forget Lillard and LMA's knee.
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    Wish we took our defense with us on the road trip
    We're playing far, FAR better teams. Portland make every crucial shot.

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    Loss is on 3 people. Watson, Lance and Vogel.

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    Games like tonight shows how badly we need granger to get healthy, when dialed in lance is great but night in and night out truth is he's just not reliable
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    Games like tonight shows how badly we need granger to get healthy, when dialed in lance is great but night in and night out truth is he's just not reliable
    Yes he is not reliable. Paul wasn't either 12 months ago. Neither was Granger when he was 23. Lance has to overcome the mental part. If he does that he will be spectacular. Until that happens he will be up and down and possibly off this team.

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    Yes he is not reliable. Paul wasn't either 12 months ago. Neither was Granger when he was 23. Lance has to overcome the mental part. If he does that he will be spectacular. Until that happens he will be up and down and possibly off this team.
    What does that have to do with anything. We are trying to win now. The fact he might be reliable in 12 months doesn't do **** if Lance has these games in the playoffs.

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    What does that have to do with anything. We are trying to win now. The fact he might be reliable in 12 months doesn't do **** if Lance has these games in the playoffs.
    We are trying to be the best team we can be and a team that can eventually win in May and June. If the coaches do their job and Lance does his, he will learn from this and be more consistent for the playoffs. Regardless of what happens in the playoffs, very few people will remember this game. If Lance learns from this loss, then it will be worth it.

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    Yes he is not reliable. Paul wasn't either 12 months ago. Neither was Granger when he was 23. Lance has to overcome the mental part. If he does that he will be spectacular. Until that happens he will be up and down and possibly off this team.
    Overcome the mental part, yes. But more importantly I think Lance needs another summer or even the all star break to work on his jumpshot. Can't rely on physically over-powering opponents every night. As a player, Lance needs to develop some actual skills to become a the great player he can definitely become.

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    Lance will be fine. It's just some hiccups along the way.

    The refs may have some bad calls late, but we got to give credit to Portland. They really are legit in the West and I hope they stay afloat in the top 3 in the West. Having teams like Indiana and Portland, as well as San Antonio in the top is a refreshing sight for less-hyped teams.

    Paul George, man...what can I say? He just establishing his superstar status right now. Those last 3pt bombs are Reggie-esque. Want to watch them again.

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    The refs may have some bad calls late, but we got to give credit to Portland. They really are legit in the West and I hope they stay afloat in the top 3 in the West. Having teams like Indiana and Portland, as well as San Antonio in the top is a refreshing sight for less-hyped teams.
    Totally agree.

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    Tough loss.

    Portland hit a lot of TOUGH shots and we got rammed hard by the officiating crew in the 2nd half. Not an excuse though. Have to play through it.
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    Default Re: Pacers / Blazers Post Game thread - 12/2

    Getting Granger back gives us a real bench and has a real replacement for when Bad Lance appears.

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    George Hill was getting guys open looks but couldn't knock down his own. Lance had a terrible game but I'm not mad at him. PG had some god awful games last year too. He just needs to get back to his strong suit. Driving, hitting open threes and overall energy. Our back court shot 2/11. Not good.

    I can't complain all that much about David West and Hibbert. Hibbert got kicked in the d*** by Aldridge and the refs in the fourth, multiple times. West had a crazy difficult assignment in Aldridge. I sorta wish he would have taken Aldridge into the block more just to wear him out.

    Paul George... I don't know what to say. Career high. Clutch 3 pointers. Frustrated Batum all night. Can we pay him more than a max contract?

    Overall I'll live with the loss. Lots of calls went Portland's way, whether they were good calls or not I won't judge. I don't know if there is such a thing as a satisfying loss, but this certainly wasn't a disheartening one.

    BTW, if anybody pushes the panic button with lines like, "Blow the team up" or "This team won't make the playoffs" you are getting added to my ignore list if only for my sanity.
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