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Odd Thoughts: Sinking the Clippers

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  • #16
    Re: Odd Thoughts: Sinking the Clippers

    Missed the game due to oth er obligations, so was looking forward to some info on ESPN radio on the way home. Even granted it was a Sunday, I thought there would be something on the SportsCenter segment.

    Nothing. Nada. Zip.

    Miami's win was the headline for the NBA, of course. But clearly no other game except the in progress Knicks game.

    *fume*

    Until Miami loses again, I think we're chopped liver - especially if we lose a second (or *horrors* third) game.

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    BillS

    A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.
    Or throw in a first-round pick and flip it for a max-level point guard...

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    • #17
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      The notion that all Blake Griffin does is dunk is still just as annoying.
      There is no NBA player named Monte Ellis.

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      • #18
        Re: Odd Thoughts: Sinking the Clippers

        Originally posted by BillS View Post
        Missed the game due to oth er obligations, so was looking forward to some info on ESPN radio on the way home. Even granted it was a Sunday, I thought there would be something on the SportsCenter segment.

        Nothing. Nada. Zip.

        Miami's win was the headline for the NBA, of course. But clearly no other game except the in progress Knicks game.

        *fume*

        Until Miami loses again, I think we're chopped liver - especially if we lose a second (or *horrors* third) game.

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        I would hardly call the Pacers chopped liver. They were the featured game on ESPN's Daily Dime today. They will almost certainly be #1 in ESPN's power rankings that come out today. Grantland has already done separate articles on Paul George and Lance Stephenson this season. They have frequently had a large segment in all the NBA podcasts, and they're usually one of the first topics talked about.

        I'm not sure about Sportscenter or radio coverage (I haven't been able to catch much of either of those recently) but the Pacers have hardly been flying under the radar. Their coverage has exploded this season. And at least in all the outlets I've seen, they have been getting tons more coverage than Miami. Most of the coverage of the NBA so far this season seems to be Pacers, Knicks, Nets, Bulls, Rockets, and Warriors.

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        • #19
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          That's all well and good, but a lot of people (and certainly those traveling) still get their info from radio and TV. We can get all the love in the world from the web sites that more interested fans look at, but as long as the casual fan never hears about us, we won't be able to draw well enough to be on national TV games or get additional attendance.

          Never mind that I'd really like to hear about the Pacers from time to time on the radio. Even with the increase in local notice, the Colts still dominate the conversation on local radio, and as stayed above, national radio ignotes us.

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          • #20
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            Originally posted by Cactus Jax View Post
            The Clippers will never succeed in the playoffs with Griffin Force douche commercials, and all I do is catch lobs and miss free throws Jordan PF/C combo.
            Griffin is a PUNK. That move where he grabbed Roy's head on the dunk? I was hoping D West just dropped him the next time he tried to go to the hoop. Maybe the other guys didn't see it because I would expect them to come to a teammate's aid.

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            • #21
              Re: Odd Thoughts: Sinking the Clippers

              Originally posted by BillS View Post
              That's all well and good, but a lot of people (and certainly those traveling) still get their info from radio and TV. We can get all the love in the world from the web sites that more interested fans look at, but as long as the casual fan never hears about us, we won't be able to draw well enough to be on national TV games or get additional attendance.

              Never mind that I'd really like to hear about the Pacers from time to time on the radio. Even with the increase in local notice, the Colts still dominate the conversation on local radio, and as stayed above, national radio ignores us.


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              NBA TV talks about Pacers A LOT. 1070The Fan gives the Pacers a huge amount of attention. Keep in mind they try to cover the Colts, IU, Butler, Purdue etc. National radio like ESPN radio is going to talk about teams that have the most fans. College football, Yankees, Red Sox, NFL, etc. It's early December. Pacers getting about what I'd expect. If Pacers do well on this road trip it will be even better.

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              • #22
                Re: Odd Thoughts: Sinking the Clippers

                I know that the big story last year was obviously PG turning into an all star, but last night was a great reminder of just how damn important West was to our success last year. A year ago, he had a ton of games like last night. His offense is just beautiful to watch and I think that his defense has gotten better every season here. He is crafty. On road trips, he just seems to have a nasty "F you" edge that rubs off on the rest of the team. He abused Griffin.

                No single move changed the culture and direction of the team more than the addition of West. We needed an older veteran to teach these young guys what it means to be a successful professional, and he along with Granger and Hill (young, but brought winning traits from SA) did a great job of that. West is easily the greatest FA signing in Pacer history.

                I know that George Hill isn't the most conventional point guard, but he is such a clutch winner. He consistently makes winning plays and is a huge reason that we've been so successful over the last couple of years. Bird really hit it out of the park in 2011 when he added West and Hill, which was just a year after adding PG and Lance. Wow, Legend was just on fire over those couple of years.
                Last edited by Sollozzo; 12-02-2013, 12:15 PM.

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                • #23
                  Re: Odd Thoughts: Sinking the Clippers

                  David West's off-ball and pnr defense was a thing of beauty yesterday.

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                  • #24
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                    If we end up winning the title this year, or in the future with this core, I will officially believe in Basketball Gods. We were definitely due for some good karma after Artest and Stern ruined us.

                    Stern is leaving in February, so we should be all clear after that.

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                    • #25
                      Re: Odd Thoughts: Sinking the Clippers

                      You could see it in David's eyes when Griffin was messing with him, I told my son that taunting him was like the Knicks fans taunting Reggie, simply a BAD idea.

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                      • #26
                        Re: Odd Thoughts: Sinking the Clippers

                        Originally posted by Ragnar View Post
                        You could see it in David's eyes when Griffin was messing with him, I told my son that taunting him was like the Knicks fans taunting Reggie, simply a BAD idea.
                        Don't poke the bear, exactly.

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                        • #27
                          Re: Odd Thoughts: Sinking the Clippers

                          David West is averaging 1.2 bpg and 1 steal a game. He is a much better defender than some will give him credit.


                          Plus he needs 3 more points to score 11,000 on his career

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                          • #28
                            Re: Odd Thoughts: Sinking the Clippers

                            David West has settled into a very comfortable position on the team. Against sub par competition, he allows the other 4 starters to sort of "do their thing", while leaving himself available for 15-17ft jumpers. But then against the good to elite teams, he exerts his will a little more and becomes that number two scoring option he was for years in N.O. It's beautiful to watch him pick and choose his spots while allowing his younger teammates to get their collective touches.

                            But when push comes to shove, that Hill/West P&R/P&P gets us a good shot 95% of the time.

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                            • #29
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                              The thing about West is this is only his third year, and he is already in a pantheon of sports lore for me. He is the definition of professional and the ability to rely on him in big games to produce has just been so refreshing. Obviously Hill has been consistent as well, and Paul and Hibbert are developing the ability to be consistent and arguably there now.

                              But when Mr. West is in the building so to speak, there are few players in my Pacers history that compare. And you KNOW when Mr. West is in the building, I think his first shot last night was blocked by Jordan right in front of the Clipps bench, West recovered the ball and instead of looking to pass got this look in his eye like OK that's how it's going to be, and he drove on him and then worked him over with a beautiful step back fade away jumper.


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                              • #30
                                Re: Odd Thoughts: Sinking the Clippers

                                Originally posted by Trader Joe View Post
                                The thing about West is this is only his third year, and he is already in a pantheon of sports lore for me. He is the definition of professional and the ability to rely on him in big games to produce has just been so refreshing. Obviously Hill has been consistent as well, and Paul and Hibbert are developing the ability to be consistent and arguably there now.

                                But when Mr. West is in the building so to speak, there are few players in my Pacers history that compare. And you KNOW when Mr. West is in the building, I think his first shot last night was blocked by Jordan right in front of the Clipps bench, West recovered the ball and instead of looking to pass got this look in his eye like OK that's how it's going to be, and he drove on him and then worked him over with a beautiful step back fade away jumper.

                                He is simply the greatest free agent signing in Pacer history. I guess that most would say that JO is the greatest acquisition in Pacer history, but you could probably start to make a case for West. JO will always beat him on stats and all star appearances, but West changed entire culture of our team and his arrival immediately made us one of the best teams in the NBA.

                                There are obviously lots of reasons for this team being great right now. PG has become a top 5 player in the league. Born Ready has turned into Magic Stephenson. Roy Hibbert is one of the most suffocating post defenders in NBA history. Hill is clutch. Scola has been an awesome bench addition. But to me, this current team's rise to greatness started the day we signed West. No single event changed the attitude and culture of this team more than when we brought in this guy to show the young guys how a true NBA professional acts. We had tons of young talent at that point, but we needed an old vet like West who could show them the ropes. Oh, and he's a pretty damn good basketball player too. He made an argument for himself to be an all star last year with his spectacular play, and I think that his defense just gets better and better.

                                Like I said earlier, he just gets this nasty edge to him when we play great teams on the road. I love it and I can't wait to see more of it tonight. I want some more nasty jumpers with some jawing afterwords.

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