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    Sometimes individuals are just prone to injury. Whether they play 82 games or 62 games isn't a huge factor in that.

    Trust me, I'm the most injury prone person you've probably ever met.

    D. Rose just has rotten luck with his body. There may or may not be underlying reasons for it.
    His frist three years he missed a grand total of 6 games over 3 seasons. Yeah the lockout year he had some issues, but otherwise it's really been two catastrophic injuries. Does that make him injury prone? Not in my opinion, injury prone is a lot more like someone who just never really gets healthy, plays ten games and then has to sit 3 or 4, that's never really been Rose.

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    Per KC Johnson - Torn Meniscus.

    That means he'll be out about 6 weeks.
    if he chooses to repair it and they have to shave it, it will be longer than that I believe.

    Anyway, the whole thing blows. Freak knee twists are no fun. I hope he gets better sooner than later. League is more fun with him and we're plenty good enough to beat the Bulls butts with or without him
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    if he chooses to repair it and they have to shave it, it will be longer than that I believe.
    Wojo's article

    "If Rose decides to reattach the meniscus – usually the route taken by young players – he's expected to miss the rest of the regular season. To clip off the meniscus is a riskier long-term issue, but could have Rose back in one to two months."

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    As cautious as Rose was with his ACL I'd think he'll look long term and opt for the repair and I think he should. If that happens I'd look for Chicago to look long term as well so instead of keeping Deng as a 1 year rental for a title run I'll bet they trade him. I think Chicago will start looking at next year if Rose is expected to be out for the rest of the regular season.

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    As cautious as Rose was with his ACL I'd think he'll look long term and opt for the repair and I think he should. If that happens I'd look for Chicago to look long term as well so instead of keeping Deng as a 1 year rental for a title run I'll bet they trade him. I think Chicago will start looking at next year if Rose is expected to be out for the rest of the regular season.
    Without Deng, I don't think the Bulls can stop us. He is critical for defending Paul George and a cheap replacement for that job isn't going to get it done. Deng won that last game and even he would have his hands full. Paul George isn't even close to his prime yet.

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    Without Deng, I don't think the Bulls can stop us. He is critical for defending Paul George and a cheap replacement for that job isn't going to get it done. Deng won that last game and even he would have his hands full. Paul George isn't even close to his prime yet.
    I agree but I think they've made it clear that they're not keeping him past this year. The only way I could see that happen would be if they amnesty Boozer which creates another hole. They're similar to us this year in that Deng and Butler are kind of like our Danny and Lance, at least financially. They're all in but if Rose opts for the repair and they have no chance at a title, I see them trying to get something for Deng while they can.

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    You called a random injury to a knee he had never hurt before? That's pretty impressive.
    I don't recall which thread it was in, but I made a definitive statement that I was sure Rose would not make it through the season, and would go out on injury.

    Again, it's not me just hating on Rose and being a 'sore rival fan' - I just tend to have a good intuition for this type of thing because I've gone through it so many times myself.

    Is Rose a 'chronic minor nagging injury' type of guy? No. He has sustained one (now two) major injuries. But sometimes even an elite athlete just has a proclivity towards getting injured. Derrick Rose is one such player.

    If and when he returns from this injury, I would make the exact same prediction again, sadly.
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    I agree but I think they've made it clear that they're not keeping him past this year. The only way I could see that happen would be if they amnesty Boozer which creates another hole. They're similar to us this year in that Deng and Butler are kind of like our Danny and Lance, at least financially. They're all in but if Rose opts for the repair and they have no chance at a title, I see them trying to get something for Deng while they can.
    Deng is not like Danny at all. Deng is healthy. Also, he's better than Butler. A better defender and he was producing offensively at 19 what Butler is producing at 23. Of course, Deng is my favorite Chicago Bull followed by Noah...

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    True. Also true: Roy Hibbert shoots the three better than 99.999% of the planet.

    But since this *IS* a forum to talk about pro basketball, and since one of the top players in the game just suffered a season- and maybe career-ending injury, it's not a bad thing to commiserate with the dude. Hate on the 1% later.
    Not that this needs repeating, but I agree 100%.

    It sucked when Granger got hurt last year, but I did not see many (if any) people going "well that sucks, but Im not gonna feel bad for him with all the money he makes".

    Yes, I think we all understand these guys (and entertainers/athletes in general) are pretty well off. I think we also understand we are on a NBA forum, where it is understandable to talk about such issues, mega money be damned.

    Also, I dont remember who said it, but I agree with the person who said these guys live their respective sport. I am sure life would go on, but lets not pretend these guys (esp. at the elite level) dont eat, sleep, poop, dream, etc basketball.

    This injury sucks, if for no other reason than I enjoy watching Rose beat up on teams that are not the Pacers.

    Hope he gets well soon, though I fear he may not be coming back any time soon.
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    As cautious as Rose was with his ACL I'd think he'll look long term and opt for the repair and I think he should. If that happens I'd look for Chicago to look long term as well so instead of keeping Deng as a 1 year rental for a title run I'll bet they trade him. I think Chicago will start looking at next year if Rose is expected to be out for the rest of the regular season.
    I agree with this. The Bulls are $7 million over the luxury tax too. They have an owner who doesn't want to pay it, and this will be the 2nd year in a row they've done so. Without Rose, the Bulls aren't contending for the title. So I think they'll look at trading Deng for some salary relief this season.

    Deng for Derrick Williams and Corey Brewer? That saves the Bulls about $4.5 million, not counting luxury tax. That's an example of a deal the Bulls could consider.
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    Derrick Rose's meniscus surgery is set for Monday. Expect a reattachment and lengthier rehab process. Tribune Blog: http://trib.in/18zBwTC


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    Deng is not like Danny at all. Deng is healthy. Also, he's better than Butler. A better defender and he was producing offensively at 19 what Butler is producing at 23. Of course, Deng is my favorite Chicago Bull followed by Noah...
    Deng is so under appreciated by the Bulls management and fans. They've rode him like a horse (to many minutes at times) and he has consistently delivered. I hope they do trade him so they see what they had.

    I haven't seen a huge sample of Jimmy Butler, but what I have seen he seems way over rated by Bulls management and especially fans.
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    Deng is not like Danny at all. Deng is healthy. Also, he's better than Butler. A better defender and he was producing offensively at 19 what Butler is producing at 23. Of course, Deng is my favorite Chicago Bull followed by Noah...

    I didn't say that. I said financially Chicago is in the same place with Deng and Butler as we are with Granger and Lance and that is that one player will have to go. Deng will cost more then Chicago can pay him next year so he's gone anyway. They're anticipating and extension for Butler. I expect that if Rose is out for the rest of the regular season then Chicago will see their title hopes vanish for this year and decide to move Deng for future picks.

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    Deng is so under appreciated by the Bulls management and fans. They've rode him like a horse (to many minutes at times) and he has consistently delivered. I hope they do trade him so they see what they had.

    I haven't seen a huge sample of Jimmy Butler, but what I have seen he seems way over rated by Bulls management and especially fans.
    Yes, Deng is really a critical player for them. He is always very aggressive and effective at both ends of the floor...and the dude is as long as Paul George. I've always considered him under-rated and thought of him at a top 20 player in the league and at one point a top 10 player. With that said, I would trade anyone on this team except Paul and Hibbert to get him.

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    K.C. Johnson ‏@KCJHoop 4h

    Derrick Rose's meniscus surgery is set for Monday. Expect a reattachment and lengthier rehab process. Tribune Blog: http://trib.in/18zBwTC


    I'd be shocked if we saw him again this year.
    I hope he spends a couple more years fully rehabbing. Maybe by the time he's 30 and we have 3 rings or so he can return.

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    If Deng had a rim protector like Roy, he'd be even more of a defensive beast.

    Send him to the Western Conference. Get him away from PG and Danny.
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    If Deng had a rim protector like Roy, he'd be even more of a defensive beast.

    Send him to the Western Conference. Get him away from PG and Danny.
    If I were Portland and could get an extension from him, I'd consider Batum for Deng, if they think they're serious contenders. Maybe I'm undervaluing Batum a bit but Deng is a very good player and I think would be great w/ the Trailblazers.
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    I could see Cuban offering Marion and filler for Deng. Expiring contract this year and it saves the Bulls some L.T.

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    Yes, Deng is really a critical player for them. He is always very aggressive and effective at both ends of the floor...and the dude is as long as Paul George. I've always considered him under-rated and thought of him at a top 20 player in the league and at one point a top 10 player. With that said, I would trade anyone on this team except Paul and Hibbert to get him.
    I beg to add Lance.

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    that Bulls/Nets Christmas game was a great decision by the league

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    I've been trying to figure out how to get Deng to Houston

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    that Bulls/Nets Christmas game was a great decision by the league
    Thunder-Knicks pretty spectacular too.

    Shame because Thunder-Pacers was just sitting there as a home run too.

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    I've been trying to figure out how to get Deng to Houston
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    I assume there's tons of direct flights from O'Hare to Bush International.

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    Out for the year. Wow. Just wow.

    Million dollar question is if Bulls can still make playoffs (again) in weak East. I say yes.

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