"See how stupid those fans sound complaining about the officials. That is one reason why I hate when Pacers fans complain about the refs - does not come across well at all, no matter the merit. "
Sad for DRose. I did predict before that he'll get beat with injuries because of his style of play. But of course I would not want an injured player with that much talent because it's good for the NBA in general to have more competitive teams and more recognizable players in the competition.
For those who are saying that it would put an asterisk on the Pacers wins should Rose miss again this season (or any other stars in the East), that's nonsense if you ask me. This team controls their own destiny. It's just disrespectful for our own players who play hard and always go for the win regardless of who's on the opposition as well as for the guys in the "rival" team (particularly Chicago) who are also a tough team and can win games without their star player. Let's also remember that we are also missing our top scorer (Danny Granger) so let's not make an excuse for the other team's losses as well as to blemish our team's wins because of other teams' dilemmas.
The Rose Garden is cursed that place has ruined more basketball careers than I can count and that's with their own team...
As a Colts fan, I know how much it sucks to see a promising season derailed due to injuries.
Hopefully Rose is okay.
This injury just pisses me off.
Rose didn't land on his leg awkwardly, didn't collide with anybody, and didn't twist his knee.
He just ran and his knee buckled.
I'm no doctor but to me, this injury, like so many other serious injuries around the league, seems like a direct result of how stupidly long the regular season is.
The players' bodies are taking on WAY too much in too short a time. Too many back 2 backs, 5 games in 7 nights etc. Their bodies don't have sufficient time to rest and heal
and some guys just break down because of it.
I wish the league would realise this already and cut down about 20 or so meaningless regular season games, for the good of the players and the NBA.
The Bulls are suffering right now, but it could easily be us.
It's unfortunate. You never like to see a player get hurt, even on a rival (Yes, Derrick I said it). I was hoping to see the Pacers and Bulls battle it out this year, but without Rose, I think we now have the clear upperhand. You can tell Rose worked really hard to come back, and to have to do that all over again, will really suck. No doubt about it.
Sometimes individuals are just prone to injury. Whether they play 82 games or 62 games isn't a huge factor in that.
Trust me, I'm the most injury prone person you've probably ever met.
D. Rose just has rotten luck with his body. There may or may not be underlying reasons for it.
You could argue that this injury is due to favoring his good knee vs his injured one and that acl tear was due to the length of season but I think that's way too complicated to draw one clear conclusion from.
Also, psychology can definitely play part in injuries.
Tearing an ACL can be a major trauma for professional athletes, and being constantly fearful
of being re-injured and not trusting your body can lead to more injuries, especially to full throttle players like Rose,
and especially when you're talking about knees, where a single awkward move or bad shift of balance can cause serious harm.
So no, being in a bad place mentally won't directly cause your knee to buckle,
but it can cause you to take a miss step than will cause an injury, especially when you're tired on a 2nd game of a back 2 back.
Just my opinion.
I would argue that DRose subjects his ligaments to higher forces than most, with the way he moves. His game has always been about speed, change of direction and odd landing and awkward motions. The only guy I've ever seen have a prolonged career with a similar style and relatively few hiccups was Iverson.
Yea Rose has relatively few NBA miles on his body. His style of play is what I look to.
The moves he pulls off are awesome, but the body is not built to move like that.
Last edited by Kid Minneapolis; 11-23-2013 at 12:18 PM.
Yeah guys but DgR has a great point.
I may sound dramatic here but do you imagine playing 4 games in 5 days or 5 in 7 how tiring is for a player in an elite competition level? Hell I can't start to think the toll it takes in the end for a human body no matter how fit a player is. The schedule should be reduced.
I would say it's a combination of both.
Rose not fully trusting his body yet, not moving his legs like he did before his first injury,
while also putting the excessive stress of an NBA regular season on his body caused this.
Is it a coincidence he was injured late in 2nd game of a back-2-back? maybe.
While I agree some players are more injury prone than others, I would also say it shouldn't be looked at as 'their problem' and 'they're bodies are made of glass' kind of way.
I think the league should put it as one of its highest priorities to protect its players, especially the injury prone ones, because a league with more healthy player and less injuries is a better league.
So a shorter regular season won't prevent ALL injuries, but injuries like Rose's or Kobe's achilles tear or many others might have been prevented, and if shortening
the season to 60 games or so prevents a few of those wouldn't it be worth it?
It won't make a difference even if you completely rest for 5 straight years, if you play 4 games in 5 night, you're not giving your body time to recuperate from one game to the other, so damage
to your body tissues just builds up and your chances of being seriously injured are increased.
Maybe mentally Rose can't be fatigued after that long layoff, but physically his body is incapable of storing rest/freshness much like it's incapable of storing sleep.
Last edited by 15th parallel; 11-23-2013 at 02:15 PM.
I feel so bad for Rose. I know he can say some stupid things at times (is that really surprising though?).
It just seems like this specific injury is becoming more common for all basketball players. (Women and Men, college and pros..heck even high school.)
Women's teams have begun changing the way they teach basketball to their players in order to prevent these tears. (When not to pass the ball, reducing the amount of times pivoting..) Maybe that's something Men's teams need to start doing.