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    It's not about what SAS is "big on" or personally thinks at all, folks. First Take is a produced show. Producers give Skip Bayless one take, SAS another, allow a little improv, and let them have at it.

    First Take isn't opinion or analysis. It's a sports entertainment show. In the same way Jerry Springer is scripted/produced.
    I watched some of it and I think in First Take, they are just for entertainment around there, and I believe SAS once admitted that they are joking around in the show for the most part of the heated debates.

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    I don't mind SAS sure his antics can be a bit grating (but he's an entertainer for the most part) I at least get where he's coming from even if I don't agree with him.

    Skip OTOH is a sensationalistic tool just for the sake of it.

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    It's playing on Sportscenter all morning... supposedly they first wanted to talk to Bird, he said to talk to the team instead... they reached out to PG, and he said I'll talk to you, but it needs to be with the rest of the starting five...

    These guys are quickly becoming masters of the PR game...

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    Bird..lol. he was prob like u want me to interview w SAS.. no thanks.


    justa hunch but I bet Bird is not a big SAS fan.

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    Even when he gives the Pacers credit, I re-think my position just to make sure I'm not going crazy and it's just a case of a broken clock getting one right.
    anything coming from SAS has inklings of venom rooted from a nyk fan perspective.

    * give u an example.

    prior to bulls game he was amping the pacers up.. they will go 16-0 ,, maybe this correlated w the intrvw but seem like a trick to blow up pacers egos. trick used by the cheatriots.

    ie.. say nothing but super nice things about your enemy.

    GH3 will have plenty to say when we hoist the Banner.

    *w that said I like SAS. bout as much as Herd or any the others.

    but I don't want that guy near our team. like those discount double check commercials with AR and Da bears guys nibbling on AR's left shoulder, then AR gets injured "left shoulder"

    team interview. get out of line SAS and BAMF will stuff you in a gym locker.


    Great interview. all the PR is great. but all we need is a BANNER.

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    anything coming from SAS has inklings of venom rooted from a nyk fan perspective.

    * give u an example.

    prior to bulls game he was amping the pacers up.. they will go 16-0 ,, maybe this correlated w the intrvw but seem like a trick to blow up pacers egos. trick used by the cheatriots.

    ie.. say nothing but super nice things about your enemy.

    GH3 will have plenty to say when we hoist the Banner.

    *w that said I like SAS. bout as much as Herd or any the others.

    but I don't want that guy near our team. like those discount double check commercials with AR and Da bears guys nibbling on AR's left shoulder, then AR gets injured "left shoulder"

    team interview. get out of line SAS and BAMF will stuff you in a gym locker.


    Great interview. all the PR is great. but all we need is a BANNER.
    You can put down the tin foil hat now.

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    People might say the fast start might mean nothing cause its the regular season, but the first step in taking down the champs is winning the regular season and getting home court. Everything is gonna come after

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    I love West man. His face when SAS asks that 48 minutes from the Finals question, his immediate yes when he asked if it's title or bust.

    And maybe it was editing or something, I like to think not, and maybe I'm overselling it, but Lance not even cracking a smile when SAS said he was playing well told me a lot. Even just last year he'd probably be grinning ear to ear hearing a national guy say that to him, and not unjustly. Kid's bought in.

    We're comin man.


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    They just showed another part of the interview.

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    Ya it's definitely longer than the three minute sections we keep seeing. Hill definitely talks too so the criticism for that isn't really fair.

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    SAS was on the Pacers bandwagon in the playoffs? I could have sworn he said we'd lose something like 4-1 to the Knicks. I get he's a NYK fan and all but that is pretty big disrespect.

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    Ya it's definitely longer than the three minute sections we keep seeing. Hill definitely talks too so the criticism for that isn't really fair.
    The whole point of the five guys theme was ruined by leaving out Hill, including in that three minute edited clip. It would have been oh so easy to include one five second comment from Hill. But they didn't. I'm sure no malice intended, just a dumb or lazy oversight.
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    SAS was on the Pacers bandwagon in the playoffs? I could have sworn he said we'd lose something like 4-1 to the Knicks. I get he's a NYK fan and all but that is pretty big disrespect.
    He recognized the talent all playoffs but you're right. Until the Pacers won he wasn't giving them any shot. Now AFTER they beat the Knicks, and after he threw himself a pity party over the Knicks loss, that's when he jumped on the BW. Ever since then he's talked them up constantly. Probably bc he knows the Knicks don't stand a chance while this Pacers core group is together
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    Where are the other parts?
    "We've got to be very clear about this. We don't want our players hanging around with murderers," said Larry Bird, Pacers president.

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    He recognized the talent all playoffs but you're right. Until the Pacers won he wasn't giving them any shot. Now AFTER they beat the Knicks, and after he threw himself a pity party over the Knicks loss, that's when he jumped on the BW. Ever since then he's talked them up constantly. Probably bc he knows the Knicks don't stand a chance while this Pacers core group is together
    He couldn't even bring himself to give Roy any love for that block on Melo, all he would say is that Roy should have blocked it because he was 7'2" like those things are just expected as routine. What a douche.
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    He couldn't even bring himself to give Roy any love for that block on Melo, all he would say is that Roy should have blocked it because he was 7'2" like those things are just expected as routine. What a douche.
    Seriously. That statement alone reminded me why I stopped paying attention to him in the first place. I've written off everything he's said since then.

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    Where are the other parts?
    Here is another segment of the interview:

    http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=100...espnapi_public

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    They should've had Danny sitting in one of the seats in the background waving an I'LL BE BACK! sign. Seriously, I don't want to make this another Danny thread, but it's a bummer he doesn't even get mentioned in stuff like this anymore.
    I honestly didn't even notice...
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    Is there any way this team could be more likeable? Seriously we have a special team
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    Is there any way this team could be more likeable? Seriously we have a special team
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    It continues to amaze me how quickly a totally unrelated conversation can devolve into a symposium on why none of us cares what Stephen A. Smith and Skip Bayless say.


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    With rings, baybee. We'd like 'em better with rings.
    At this point, with this talent and PG at the helm, it's not a question of if with the rings, it's how many.
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    The whole point of the five guys theme was ruined by leaving out Hill, including in that three minute edited clip. It would have been oh so easy to include one five second comment from Hill. But they didn't. I'm sure no malice intended, just a dumb or lazy oversight.
    Probably not malice, but certainly purposeful. When they edited that they were thinking about ratings, and Hill isn't exciting enough of a name for ratings.

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    Probably not malice, but certainly purposeful. When they edited that they were thinking about ratings, and Hill isn't exciting enough of a name for ratings.
    Maybe but I doubt it. Just not enough focus and concentration.
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