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    I know, it's too soon. But I'm going to take a snapshot throughout the season to see where we stand. Here are the Eastern Conference numbers. Once we get to the end of the season, I'll start tracking the top Western Conference teams as well.

    Reminder: A "Magic Number" is a total number of Pacers wins and TeamX losses that would guarantee the Pacers get a higher seed than the other team. This early in the season there are too many variables for it to be very meaningful, but as the season goes on it will be interesting to see how it plays out. I've done this every spring for the past 5 or 6 years, but in all that time we've never had a Magic Number that's lower than the number of games remaining. With 72 games remaining:

    Indiana --
    Miami - 71
    Chicago - 71
    Philadelphia - 68
    Atlanta - 70
    Charlotte - 68
    Orlando - 68
    Toronto - 67
    Boston - 67
    Cleveland - 67
    Detroit - 68
    New York - 68
    Brooklyn - 67
    Washington - 67
    Milwaukee - 67
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    Lots of movement over the past 10 games. First number is the magic number now, number in parentheses is the magic number 10 games ago. With 62 games remaining:

    Miami - 60 (71)
    Atlanta - 55 (70)
    Boston - 53 (67)
    Detroit - 55 (68)
    Washington - 55 (67)
    Charlotte - 54 (68)
    Chicago - 55 (71)
    Cleveland - 52 (67)
    Toronto - 53 (67)
    Philadelphia - 51 (68)
    Orlando - 52 (68)
    Brooklyn - 51 (67)
    New York - 52 (68)
    Milwaukee - 49 (67)
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    I know it would double the work required to compile this list, but could you possibly make the magic number list refer to having the best record in the entire league, thereby assuring the Pacers of home court advantage throughout the playoffs, including the Finals?


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    I know it would double the work required to compile this list, but could you possibly make the magic number list refer to having the best record in the entire league, thereby assuring the Pacers of home court advantage throughout the playoffs, including the Finals?

    Once we hit the All-Star Break, we'll have mathematically eliminated most of the teams in the East. After that, I'll start including the West.
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    Some of these numbers are crazy. In ten games, NY's Magic Number dropped by 16. Same for Brooklyn. Philly dropped 17.

    We could legitimately clinch a playoff spot by the All-Star Break. What's the earliest a team has ever clinched a playoff spot?
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    We could legitimately clinch a playoff spot by the All-Star Break. What's the earliest a team has ever clinched a playoff spot?
    The 72 win Bulls team? They had 42 wins at the All Star Break...
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    The 72 win Bulls team? They had 42 wins at the All Star Break...
    But the rest of their conference wasn't as weak as ours was this year. Makes me wonder.
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    Miami last year might be a candidate.

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    30 games in: The Pacers lead the conference at 25-5. With 52 games remaining, here are the numbers. First number is the magic number at 30 games, followed by 20 and 10 games. It's interesting to see the shuffling going on in the mid-to-late first round: Look at Toronto shooting up the list, while Chicago and Detroit drop.

    Miami - 51 - 60 - 71
    Atlanta - 44 - 55 - 70
    Toronto - 43 - 53 - 67
    Washington - 44 - 55 - 67
    Charlotte - 40 - 54 - 68
    Detroit - 39 - 55 - 68
    Boston - 40 - 53 - 67
    Chicago - 41 - 55 - 71
    Brooklyn - 38 - 51 - 67
    Cleveland - 37 - 52 - 67
    Orlando - 37 - 52 - 68
    Philadelphia - 37 - 51 - 68
    New York - 37 - 52 - 68
    Milwaukee - 34 - 49 - 67
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    Well, now that we're 4.5 games up on Miami and we could lose for two weeks straight without the rest of the East catching up, it's time to start tracking the entire league.

    Here's the magic numbers for all current playoff teams. Note that we have 42 games to go.

    San Antonio - 41
    Portland - 40
    Oklahoma City - 40
    Miami - 38
    LA Clippers - 36
    Houston - 35
    Golden State - 33
    Dallas - 32
    Phoenix - 33
    Atlanta - 31
    Toronto - 30
    Washington - 30
    Chicago - 30
    Brooklyn - 28
    Charlotte - 25
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    Well, despite tonight's brutal loss, we're still moving up. I'd have felt a lot better if we'd snagged a win or if OKC had lost tonight, but it is what it is. Here are the numbers.

    Indiana
    Oklahoma City - 32
    Miami - 30
    San Antonio - 30
    Portland - 29
    Houston - 27
    LA Clippers - 26
    Phoenix - 24
    Dallas - 23
    Golden State - 23
    Toronto - 20
    Atlanta - 20
    Washington - 19
    Chicago - 19
    Brooklyn - 18
    Charlotte - 15

    It's crazy that the bottom six playoff teams are all from the East. There are only two Eastern Conference teams in the top 10.
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    Sorry gang, I was gone last week when we played our 60th game. We've stayed ahead of Miami, but San Antonio has really come on strong while we've been faltering. With 18 games left, here are the magic numbers for all current playoff teams.

    San Antonio - 20
    Oklahoma City - 19
    Miami - 18
    LA Clippers - 16
    Houston - 16
    Portland - 13
    Golden State - 11
    Memphis - 10
    Toronto - 9
    Dallas - 9
    Chicago - 7
    Brooklyn - 6
    Washington - 5
    Charlotte - 2
    Atlanta - 1
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    Theoretically you could take one away from Washington and Brooklyn since we have essentially won the head to head.

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    The Pacers head-to-head matchups with the Spurs, Heat (2), and Thunder are going to have a huge impact on the overall number 1 seed.
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    Theoretically you could take one away from Washington and Brooklyn since we have essentially won the head to head.
    Yeah, good call. About this time every year, I start making the disclaimer: These magic numbers do not include tiebreakers. It becomes a big deal in our final games with the Heat, because the next game is worth a full point (potentially 1 Pacer win and 1 Heat loss) and if we win it, the game after is actually worth 2 points (1 Pacer win, 1 Heat loss, and a full point for winning the head-to-head matchup).
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    Yeah, good call. About this time every year, I start making the disclaimer: These magic numbers do not include tiebreakers. It becomes a big deal in our final games with the Heat, because the next game is worth a full point (potentially 1 Pacer win and 1 Heat loss) and if we win it, the game after is actually worth 2 points (1 Pacer win, 1 Heat loss, and a full point for winning the head-to-head matchup).
    Same thing with the home game against the Spurs. I am very excited for that game.

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    Well, that was a pretty good win. It's going to be pretty much impossible to get homecourt over the Spurs, but we can still catch OKC. And that win means we own our destiny against Miami. Our magic number against them is 9, with 10 games left (and 12 for Miami).

    San Antonio - 16
    Oklahoma City - 12
    Miami - 9
    LA Clippers - 9
    Houston - 9

    I'm looking at the schedule and realizing that if all goes well, we could have our magic number against Miami down to 2 or 3 by the time we play them again. That means a win against them in our final game could seal homecourt through the ECFs.
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