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  • Re: Granger To Resume Practice

    Originally posted by Bball View Post
    Oct 16th until today is 49 days. He did play and aggravate the injury on the 18th (2 days later) which would then be 47 days ago. So it's been 7 full weeks since the initial injury and Friday will start the 8th week since aggravating it. Either way 6 weeks is in the rear view mirror.
    You're right you start recovery immediately after an injury. Like literally as soon as it happens.

    I think using the 19th as the beginning of his rehab is more than reasonable, and heck is probably actually being aggressive. You can have as much as a week of rest before you're even allowed to start rehabbing injuries at times.

    I'll just put this here so no one forgets about it
    Last edited by Trader Joe; 12-03-2013, 12:55 PM.


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    • Re: Granger To Resume Practice

      Originally posted by Trader Joe View Post
      You're right you start recovery immediately after an injury. Like literally as soon as it happens.

      I think using the 19th as the beginning of his rehab is more than reasonable, and heck is probably actually being aggressive. You can have as much as a week of rest before you're even allowed to start rehabbing injuries at times.
      OK... Saturday starts the 8th week since the 19th. Does that really make that much difference to the point that the Pacers said he'd be out 3 weeks, forum speculation took it to a potential of 6 weeks, and it's now into the 7th week no matter which date you want to use (16th, 18th, or 19th (day after aggravating injury)) and by the weekend we'll be starting the 8th week?
      Nuntius was right for a while. I was wrong for a while. But ultimately I was right and Frank Vogel has been let go.

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      • Re: Granger To Resume Practice

        I was hoping that this thread would be buried. I shall call this the Zombie Thread. 1. Because it struts around to top of the page one like a walker. 2. Because I am beginning to think that a Zombie will suit up before Danny.

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        • Re: Granger To Resume Practice

          Originally posted by Bball View Post
          OK... Saturday starts the 8th week since the 19th. Does that really make that much difference to the point that the Pacers said he'd be out 3 weeks, forum speculation took it to a potential of 6 weeks, and it's now into the 7th week no matter which date you want to use (16th, 18th, or 19th (day after aggravating injury)) and by the weekend we'll be starting the 8th week?
          You're right he's probably dead. I mean what do you want me to say? All I'm saying is it's not that ridiculous to think that if we're taking it slow this schedule isn't that insane. As far as the Pacers initial press release on the 28th or whatever, that means pretty much nothing.

          While I was recovering from my sprained ankle last month, I had a grade 2 sprain, they originally thought I was progressing well, but then got delayed by another two weeks because the soft tissue surrounding my ankle and the achilles tendon were not healing the way they wanted and I could perform the explosive movements they wanted to see from me. **** happens when you're rehabbing soft tissue.

          I still have pain in the soft tissue around the ankle, but luckily I've been cleared because I'm not trying to go be an NBA player, I'm just trying to get up and down the court in pick up games at the Monon Center.

          I haven't been in this thread that much, and no I don't know when or if Danny will be back, but I really don't understand what some of you are trying to accomplish in here.

          Are we trying to say the training staff is incompetent? That Danny isn't working hard enough? That it's been a cover up all along? Who knows, and really who cares. We're 16-2.
          Last edited by Trader Joe; 12-03-2013, 01:04 PM.


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          • Re: Granger To Resume Practice

            Originally posted by Trader Joe View Post
            You're right you start recovery immediately after an injury. Like literally as soon as it happens.

            I think using the 19th as the beginning of his rehab is more than reasonable, and heck is probably actually being aggressive. You can have as much as a week of rest before you're even allowed to start rehabbing injuries at times.

            I'll just put this here so no one forgets about it
            I asked before and nobody answered or linked to it...
            Did the Pacers ever declare this a Grade 2 calf strain or did the forum speculate that must be what it is?
            Nuntius was right for a while. I was wrong for a while. But ultimately I was right and Frank Vogel has been let go.

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            • Re: Granger To Resume Practice

              You can tell who has been through sports injuries, and who hasn't.
              Just because you're offended, doesn't mean you're right.” ― Ricky Gervais.

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              • Re: Granger To Resume Practice

                Originally posted by Bball View Post
                I asked before and nobody answered or linked to it...
                Did the Pacers ever declare this a Grade 2 calf strain or did the forum speculate that must be what it is?
                All the Pacers did was declare it a calf strain, symptoms and rehab time lineup with a grade 2, I'm not saying it's gospel, but neither are any of the other options.


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                • Re: Granger To Resume Practice

                  I think it is funny that instead of saying a month to two. They say 6 weeks. That way people don't freak out.

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                  • Re: Granger To Resume Practice

                    Originally posted by Major Cold View Post
                    I think it is funny that instead of saying a month to two. They say 6 weeks. That way people don't freak out.
                    I guess that's what I don't understand about this, is there something to freak out about? Is there a pressing need for Danny to return? Heck he only has this year left on his deal, there is literally nothing to stress about here.


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                    • Re: Granger To Resume Practice

                      Originally posted by Trader Joe View Post
                      All the Pacers did was declare it a calf strain, symptoms and rehab time lineup with a grade 2, I'm not saying it's gospel, but neither are any of the other options.
                      It could be a light grade 3. There isn't an exact science on the grades of strains, as it's mostly dependent on the symptoms the athlete is feeling. If they're withholding something (just speculating) it could cause a doctor/trainer to think it's less severe than it is. Or when the injury is re-aggervated they're going to bump the timetable back.

                      It's like of like getting the flu. It could be a 24 hr thing, it could be a three day thing, there's no way of knowing until you let it run it's course.
                      Just because you're offended, doesn't mean you're right.” ― Ricky Gervais.

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                      • Re: Granger To Resume Practice

                        Originally posted by Trader Joe View Post
                        You're right he's probably dead. I mean what do you want me to say? All I'm saying is it's not that ridiculous to think that if we're taking it slow this schedule isn't that insane. As far as the Pacers initial press release on the 28th or whatever, that means pretty much nothing.
                        When the Pacers say they expect him to miss 3 weeks then I think we should expect him to miss 3 weeks. Especially when they are downplaying the injury with words like 'precautionary'. So, yeah, I think staring at 8 weeks coming up this week and him with no sign he's ready to go isn't exactly on par with expectations.

                        I can't find anything official that says he suffered a grade II calf strain... just forum speculation. Maybe I've missed it. With 6 weeks in the rear view mirror you have to start wondering and certainly a grade II looks probable. But then if that is the case, why the initial statement that they expect him to miss 3 weeks?

                        An update of sorts would be nice. I don't expect to see his medical records opened up or anything. Just a general summary of what is going on that put 3 weeks so far in the rear view mirror and what we should now expect going forward.
                        Nuntius was right for a while. I was wrong for a while. But ultimately I was right and Frank Vogel has been let go.

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                        "A player who makes a team great is more valuable than a great player. Losing yourself in the group, for the good of the group, that’s teamwork."

                        -John Wooden

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                        • Re: Granger To Resume Practice

                          Originally posted by Since86 View Post
                          It could be a light grade 3. There isn't an exact science on the grades of strains, as it's mostly dependent on the symptoms the athlete is feeling. If they're withholding something (just speculating) it could cause a doctor/trainer to think it's less severe than it is. Or when the injury is re-aggervated they're going to bump the timetable back.

                          It's like of like getting the flu. It could be a 24 hr thing, it could be a three day thing, there's no way of knowing until you let it run it's course.
                          Yeah, I had a great conversation with my doctor when he declared my ankle sprain a severe grade 2

                          Me: Could you clarify that, I've always wondered how you guys get to the grades
                          Him: Basically that it hurts a lot and will know more in a week or two.

                          Of course they didn't want to force me to go through an MRI at that point and x-rays were negative and my ankle wasn't showing any gross instability indicating muscle or ligament tears.


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                          • Re: Granger To Resume Practice

                            Originally posted by Bball View Post
                            When the Pacers say they expect him to miss 3 weeks then I think we should expect him to miss 3 weeks. Especially when they are downplaying the injury with words like 'precautionary'. So, yeah, I think staring at 8 weeks coming up this week and him with no sign he's ready to go isn't exactly on par with expectations.
                            You do realize that there is almost two weeks in there between when the injury occurred and when they said it would be three weeks, right? You make it sound like he's 5 weeks off schedule, when it's really closer to being two.
                            Just because you're offended, doesn't mean you're right.” ― Ricky Gervais.

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                            • Re: Granger To Resume Practice

                              Originally posted by Bball View Post
                              When the Pacers say they expect him to miss 3 weeks then I think we should expect him to miss 3 weeks. Especially when they are downplaying the injury with words like 'precautionary'. So, yeah, I think staring at 8 weeks coming up this week and him with no sign he's ready to go isn't exactly on par with expectations.

                              I can't find anything official that says he suffered a grade II calf strain... just forum speculation. Maybe I've missed it. With 6 weeks in the rear view mirror you have to start wondering and certainly a grade II looks probable. But then if that is the case, why the initial statement that they expect him to miss 3 weeks?

                              An update of sorts would be nice. I don't expect to see his medical records opened up or anything. Just a general summary of what is going on that put 3 weeks so far in the rear view mirror and what we should now expect going forward.
                              I mean I agree, I'd love to see an update, but I just can't get that worked up about it. I know how schedules can change on a rehab, it's happened to me twice, and like I said the team's playing well, I just don't care that much. If he comes back and contributes great, if not then it will suck just because I'd love for him to get to be a part of this run, but sometimes those are the breaks.


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                              • Re: Granger To Resume Practice

                                Originally posted by Major Cold View Post
                                I think it is funny that instead of saying a month to two. They say 6 weeks. That way people don't freak out.
                                The Pacers didn't say 6 weeks though. The Pacers said 3 weeks. And AFAIK the Pacers never said Grade II either.
                                So 6 weeks is a forum creation that has become part of the narrative as if it's an official statement. Grade II 3-6 weeks doesn't appear to be anything the Pacers ever said. The forum speculated all of that is what it looks like. The Pacers said 3 weeks.
                                Nuntius was right for a while. I was wrong for a while. But ultimately I was right and Frank Vogel has been let go.

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                                "A player who makes a team great is more valuable than a great player. Losing yourself in the group, for the good of the group, that’s teamwork."

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