Pacers sure looked the part of a 70 win team vs SA......
Pacers sure looked the part of a 70 win team vs SA......
David "And One" West
We're not just picking on you mattie, there are plenty of other people in this thread that didn't give the guys much of a chance in these 5 games. A win against the Thunder is almost gravy.
Yes - I got on them after that ugly effort against Chicago, but apparently that game was a blip on the radar and they've gone back to their old kick-*** ways. It's fun. It's just a lot of fun to watch.
Enjoy it. It could very well be a really, really special season.
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And now it has been.
We are number 1.
To not be a 70 win team, the Pacers have to lose more than 10 games out of the next 62. 52 and 10 from here on out = 70 win season.
My thought is that they'll go 50 and 12, coming just shy of 70 wins. That said, it's a very legitimate possibility they'll get 70, enough so that the discussion of it is not out of line. Maybe not probably, but quite possible. I think other factors play more into the mix that are unrelated to the Pacer's talent and ability; the biggest being how much do they want the #1 overall seed and how close are the Western teams record wise to competing for the #1 overall. If going into the last 10 games of the year the Pacer's have #1 overall pretty much locked up, I can see them resting starters and falling those couple of games shy of 70.
The Top 10 offense thing is a red herring, and here is why. If you look at the Pacer's 2PT and 3PT FG%, they're on the cusp of being Top 10 in both of those categories. Also, point differential. Their point differential is wildly ahead of any other team in the league, it's not even close. Meaning, our defense is off the charts from the norm while our offense is not that far off the mark. With a spread that big, and taking into account that we're shooting a decent percentage, I'm not really concerned about our offense. Heck, if you can put up 111pts in a lopsided, on the road victory over a disciplined and mature team like SA, your offense is "good enough" at that point.
Last edited by indyaway; 12-08-2013 at 05:23 PM.
And so it is.1
Last Week: 1 Threw this out on Twitter in all sincerity given how weak the Least has been: At what point do we start saying that Indy has a shot at 70 wins? The Pacers' 18-2 record before Sunday's crash in OKC will be recorded as the second-best start ever for a team after losing in the conference finals.
If the Pacers win 18 out of every 21 games, they will finish wth 70 wins.
Personally I don't care about 70 wins, I do care about 73 wins though. 70 would be nice, but is unimportant. 73 wins though sets an NBA record, and puts this team solidly in the argument for best team ever.
A 70 win Pacers team is unfathomable to me. So I refuse to discuss it.
Other than this post of course.
It's crazy to think that they could go 31-10 on the road and still be short of 70 wins if they were 38-3 at home.
While I still believe they're going to wind up just shy of 70 (probably 67 wins) there is one exception to that. If they go 5-0 on this trip, consider me pushing my chips in for a 70 win season. This road trip should have two losses in it. If they beat expectations by going 5-0 then they're on track in my view of the rest of the season for 70 (technically, I'd have them at 69 games, but if they're CLOSE, I think they'll gun for 70 as this team is very conscious of records).
Pacers would need to go 37-5. Not going to happen. Beyond that though I don't really care. All I want from the regular season is to have the best record, if that means 62 win, 65 wins, I don't care. So have the best record and be as healthy as a team can be entering the playoffs, and I'll be thrilled.
I fear that if we were to get close to 70 wins it would become a distraction.
Also keep this in mind. I think you can count on 3 losses (maybe against inferior opponents) late in the season just because. Name your reason. Resting guys, a nagging injury. A letdown. But it will be because it is the last 10 games, Pacers will lose 3 games. (so hoinestly, i think the pacers would need to go 30-2 over the next 32 games to be in position to win 70. And that is not going to happen.
At this point in the Bulls' 72-win season, they had 3 losses. Just think about that. It feels like Indy has been one of the most dominant teams in history this year, and the Bulls of '95 were 37-3 at this point. Good grief. I guess I was too young to really remember that, I was just getting into the NBA and probably didn't appreciate what was happening, but man that was an incredible year for a team. Indy has an .825 win percentage this year --- Chicago was a full 10% higher at .925.
I don't think we'll hit 70, personally. 65+ is within reach though. I honestly don't really care if we do. If we hit 67, we'll have a top-10 all-time best win-loss record, and a well-deserved one. I'd be a-okay with that.
There are two types of quarterbacks in the league: Those whom over time, the league figures out ... and those who figure out the league.
Normally I would lean towards agreeing with you here... However our schedule for about a month and a half is about as cake as it gets. Not to say I expect or anything like that... But the Pacers could bust off a crazy streak within this time frame.
If the Pacers don't get 70 wins, whatever... I just want that sweet championship taste!
The Lost Season
37-5 is close to 33-7. Pacers have already played the top Western teams on the road. 70 is possible
David "And One" West
Its possible the East is abysmal(and no I don't think I'm exaggerating either) they can get a ton of wins right there alone but a lot of things have to go their way for that to happen.
I'm thinking that we'll win about 64-67, which would dust the 03-04 record. It should also comfortably give us the number 1 seed.
I just want us to get the number 1 seed and break that 03-04 record.
I'm going to repeat, only 73+ wins is meaningful in a more significant way than homecourt. 70 vs 69 is meaningless as long as the team has homecourt. Honestly, this team is good enough to win 73, even with the current record. It will be extremely difficult, the odds are against us. The Heat, Thunder, Spurs, and Trailblazers are the only teams that this team shouldn't win (no matter scheduling or traveling). We play them a combined 5 more times this season, only one game being away. 4-1 against them is easily possible with 4 home games. Take care of business against teams who aren't on our level, with only one let down, and we got a 73 win team. Extremely difficult, but this team can do it.
HCA is the main thing. But let's not rest guys unless they need it. The goal is a title and you don't win that in the regular season.
Kravitz: why is Roys numbers down this year?
Bird: Well its not Lance stealing his rebounds this year.
Again, if you look at the key defensive stats + point differential, the Pacers are off the charts vs. the rest of the league. It's not even close this year.