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  • #31
    Re: Odd Thought's: Running of the Bulls

    Originally posted by Major Cold View Post
    I don't want the starting lineup to live or die by the hand of Paul George. Just like I don't like the bench living and dying by the hand of Lance. Bring in Scola with the starters at the 3 minute mark in the 1st. Bring in West with Lance. Those two have great chemistry. Lance sneaks baseline and West finds him.
    Scola looked much better yesterday with Roy and Paul George playing than when he is playing with Ian and the others it was so much better, Paul George is also good at finding him unlike the other guys.

    But yeah I agree with you Vogel needs to come up with a better combination.
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    • #32
      Re: Odd Thought's: Running of the Bulls

      I haven't read these yet, but I saw they were posted and thus, I wept.


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      • #33
        Re: Odd Thought's: Running of the Bulls

        Peck wrote, "That is not to say that the officiating in this game was in any way good, equitable or fair. Any time Tony Brothers officiates a game I need to just have a bottle of Pepto Bismol loaded and ready for use. That call where Deng took 23 steps to the basket without dribbling and this idiot calls Paul George for a blocking foul was actually cartoon villain worthy, well either villain or probably more likely Mr. Magoo for those of you old enough to know who I’m talking about. The only call that was worse was Derrick Rose jumping up and having Roy Hibbert cleanly block the ball and during the aftermath the referee who was on the other side of the play and had no visual at all as to what was going on makes a foul call on Roy, you guessed it the referee in question was none other than Tony Brothers. Frank got a T on that first foul and it took all he had to not get tossed on that one. "

        Or how about when PG drove into the lane and whoever the defender was while still moving was hit sideways and acted like he was shot out of a canon. Charging foul on PG. Flopping is alive and well.
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        • #34
          Re: Odd Thought's: Running of the Bulls

          Originally posted by vnzla81 View Post
          Scola looked much better yesterday with Roy and Paul George playing than when he is playing with Ian and the others it was so much better, Paul George is also good at finding him unlike the other guys.

          But yeah I agree with you Vogel needs to come up with a better combination.

          Oh yes!!! Scola looked good with Roy and Paul. Maybe the plan is for this to happen more frequently. I would like to see Scola stay out there if he is stretching the defense. It rests West and it rides a wave of momentum. Something that Vogel struggles with. He is getting better at this. In fact he has grown in this area. Our coach is moldable, yet solid to his values of physical defense and pushing the ball when the times are right.

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          • #35
            Re: Odd Thought's: Running of the Bulls

            Originally posted by Major Cold View Post
            Oh yes!!! Scola looked good with Roy and Paul. Maybe the plan is for this to happen more frequently. I would like to see Scola stay out there if he is stretching the defense. It rests West and it rides a wave of momentum. Something that Vogel struggles with. He is getting better at this. In fact he has grown in this area. Our coach is moldable, yet solid to his values of physical defense and pushing the ball when the times are right.
            I agree but I can tell you one thing that I don't like about Vogel is that he likes to kill a player's momentum, Paul George is on fire and then he goes to the bench, same with Lance or anybody else, Scola was playing great yesterday and instead of leaving him in the game he brought West back in, why not let Scola finish and let West rest? it didn't make sense to me.

            I really hope he doesn't cost us a game for doing this.
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            • #36
              Re: Odd Thought's: Running of the Bulls

              Originally posted by vnzla81 View Post
              I agree but I can tell you one thing that I don't like about Vogel is that he likes to kill a player's momentum, Paul George is on fire and then he goes to the bench, same with Lance or anybody else, Scola was playing great yesterday and instead of leaving him in the game he brought West back in, why not let Scola finish and let West rest? it didn't make sense to me.

              I really hope he doesn't cost us a game for doing this.
              I think Vogel will always have a proclivity for his starters. He is nothing like Pop. And I think Pop is Pop because he has older players. But Pop rests his players too systematically. Evidence A- Game 6 of the NBA finals.

              When systems are set in concrete, it doesn't bode well when games are like the tides.

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              • #37
                Re: Odd Thought's: Running of the Bulls

                Originally posted by Sollozzo View Post
                That was a great moment.

                Lance's fire just seems to rub off on everyone else. I love watching the other guys get fired up with him.
                Lance seems like everyone's little brother. They knew he was down on himself for playing like crap, but once that 3 went in everyone knew he could get that swagger back.

                I LOVE this teams nastiness and energy. We literally seem to hate the team we are playing that given night and when we flip that switch, we are downright dialed in.

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                • #38
                  Re: Odd Thought's: Running of the Bulls

                  Originally posted by mattie View Post
                  My favorite play of this game was late in the game when Lance finally hit the three and Chicago called the timeout. Lance just about flipped out. He had struggled and played like **** all game and that was it. That was what he needed and he knew it. I almost felt like everyone in the entire arena knew it. Sure enough a few plays later he knocks down another one.

                  The team had so much energy, you know it was over at that point. Such a fun game. It's crazy.
                  Speaking of Lance, I don't think I said it here last night but I was just very pleased to learn that he can transform himself from Bad Lance (and good lord was he bad lance early on) into Good Lance in the same game, and not just any game but a highly-competitive national TV game versus a rival (official or unofficial) who could very well beat us on any given night. That's a big deal, I think.

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                  • #39
                    Re: Odd Thought's: Running of the Bulls

                    Originally posted by Major Cold View Post
                    That 2nd quarter is our achilles. I hope Vogel changes up the rotations to find some scoring there.
                    You'll be happy to know that in his post game press conference, when asked about the 2nd quarter he said something about needing to adjust the rotation.

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                    • #40
                      Re: Odd Thought's: Running of the Bulls

                      Originally posted by Nuntius View Post
                      Hill is not even playing and our starting 5 is still kicking some major ***.
                      Yeah, I was going to say what's most encouraging to me right now is it looks like our starters AND our bench have improved from last year, even when Hill isn't playing, even without worrying about Danny being able to go. Unless for some bizarre reason either of them makes us worse when they're available (I mostly doubt that)... we could be even better.

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                      • #41
                        Re: Odd Thought's: Running of the Bulls

                        Originally posted by Hicks View Post
                        Yeah, I was going to say what's most encouraging to me right now is it looks like our starters AND our bench have improved from last year, even when Hill isn't playing, even without worrying about Danny being able to go. Unless for some bizarre reason either of them makes us worse when they're available (I mostly doubt that)... we could be even better.
                        Yeah, it's not even close. As far as the current starting lineup is concerned, Lance and PG are obviously even much better than they were last year. Roy, Hibbert, and Hill will be close to where they were last year (Roy's D just gets better and better). As a unit, they continue to improve.

                        If Danny can give you anything, he will improve the team wherever he is.

                        Now we have two backup PG's who are better than Augistin. That CJ signing looks awesome right now. Scola will be a monster when him and the other players get used to each other. Mahinmi has been solid.

                        This team is considerably better than last year's, and that's saying something.....

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                        • #42
                          Re: Odd Thought's: Running of the Bulls

                          One thing that got me rolling last night, walking out we passed Chicago fans rummaging through Pacers gear over by the stand where the drum corps were going to town. One guy had a Bulls hat/shirt on and already had a Pacers bag with, I'm assuming from the way it looked, a Pacers shirt. It was a group of about 5-6 20 something guys.
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                          • #43
                            Re: Odd Thought's: Running of the Bulls

                            Originally posted by Sollozzo View Post
                            This team is considerably better than last year's, and that's saying something.....
                            On both ends of the floor. Scola's defense might be under Tyler's, but probably not much as it's just different style. His defense has yet to really hurt them, and he really has a knack for getting a hand on the ball.
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                            • #44
                              Re: Odd Thought's: Running of the Bulls

                              Originally posted by Since86 View Post
                              One thing that got me rolling last night, walking out we passed Chicago fans rummaging through Pacers gear over by the stand where the drum corps were going to town. One guy had a Bulls hat/shirt on and already had a Pacers bag with, I'm assuming from the way it looked, a Pacers shirt. It was a group of about 5-6 20 something guys.
                              It seems like some casual fans around Indy and elsewhere just wear the Bulls gear for the "look". Heck, even our own Paul George wore a Bulls lid on a flight one time, didn't he?

                              I hate it, but the Bulls in the 90's had maybe the most popular merchandise of any team in sports history. They still benefit from the logo being so popular in the Jordan era. I hate the team, but it is a sweet looking logo.

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                              • #45
                                Re: Odd Thought's: Running of the Bulls

                                Originally posted by vnzla81 View Post
                                I agree but I can tell you one thing that I don't like about Vogel is that he likes to kill a player's momentum, Paul George is on fire and then he goes to the bench, same with Lance or anybody else, Scola was playing great yesterday and instead of leaving him in the game he brought West back in, why not let Scola finish and let West rest? it didn't make sense to me.

                                I really hope he doesn't cost us a game for doing this.
                                Vogel is one of the 5 best coaches in the NBA right now. He took Thibs lunch money last night in crunch time. He can do as he pleases.

                                We lost Rick Carlisle because people complained he was too much of a slave to his rotations. Well there is a reason these guys are the coaches and we are the plebes on a message board.

                                Also, he brought West in because West was dominating the boards and is a better defender than Scola. Luis had done what was needed from him, but it was time for the Bad Man to come in and put this thing on ice and he did. West had two steals and hit at least one jumper after being put back in the game. Plus grabbed I think 3 boards in that time period.

                                On a slightly related note, it's kind of silly to have this much talent at power forward. This is a position that some teams can barely find one competent guy to fill and we have two of the 10 best guys at the position offensively.


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