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  • #91
    Re: Odd Thought's: Running of the Bulls

    Originally posted by vnzla81 View Post
    Every night.


    Okay I don't care who you are or what side you fall on, that's funny right there.


    Basketball isn't played with computers, spreadsheets, and simulations. ChicagoJ 4/21/13

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    • #92
      Re: Odd Thought's: Running of the Bulls

      funny or not he has 30 days vacation for now, enough destructive crap
      So Long And Thanks For All The Fish.

      If you've done 6 impossible things today?
      Then why not have Breakfast at Milliways!

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      • #93
        Re: Odd Thought's: Running of the Bulls

        Originally posted by Hicks View Post
        Speaking of Lance, I don't think I said it here last night but I was just very pleased to learn that he can transform himself from Bad Lance (and good lord was he bad lance early on) into Good Lance in the same game, and not just any game but a highly-competitive national TV game versus a rival (official or unofficial) who could very well beat us on any given night. That's a big deal, I think.
        He's clearly one of those players that just needs something positive to get himself going. Which is a good thing, because if you are as aggressive as Lance..eventually something positive will happen.

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        • #94
          Re: Odd Thought's: Running of the Bulls

          Originally posted by Major Cold View Post
          I don't want the starting lineup to live or die by the hand of Paul George. Just like I don't like the bench living and dying by the hand of Lance. Bring in Scola with the starters at the 3 minute mark in the 1st. Bring in West with Lance. Those two have great chemistry. Lance sneaks baseline and West finds him.
          Once Hill and Granger are back we most likely won't have to worry about that.

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          • #95
            Re: Odd Thought's: Running of the Bulls

            Originally posted by Peck View Post
            That steal fast break layup from Scola who then beat feet back to the other end to grab an in traffic rebound was just huge.
            I'm glad you mentioned that play. For me that was the play of the game. Not the steal and layup but Scola getting back on D. He actually honed in on a guy in the corner that needed to be guarded and got to him like a guided missile. I had no idea Scola could run that fast. That's a great example for the young guys. Don't stand around and celebrate your exciting play. Get back and play defense because if you leave the team short handed and give up a score then your breakaway bucket didn't really mean anything. Scola gets it.

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            • #96
              Re: Odd Thought's: Running of the Bulls

              Originally posted by BillS View Post
              Please, provide a significant counterexample of someone who said we should not have tried to go after Scola when we had our last chance to do so.
              There were people that said our FA's (or their agents) probably didn't want to wait on their contracts because something bad could happen before they get their new contract inked.

              Meanwhile there were people that argued our FO had to go down the checklist of things they needed to get done and couldn't have planned for Scola so it was just bad timing....

              I don't have any links but I clearly remember those points being made.
              Nuntius was right for a while. I was wrong for a while. But ultimately I was right and Frank Vogel has been let go.

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              "A player who makes a team great is more valuable than a great player. Losing yourself in the group, for the good of the group, that’s teamwork."

              -John Wooden

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              • #97
                Re: Odd Thought's: Running of the Bulls

                Originally posted by PacerDude View Post

                Yeah ..... it's best to bring Lance off the bench.
                I hope that is sarcasm.

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                • #98
                  Re: Odd Thought's: Running of the Bulls

                  Originally posted by Justin Tyme View Post
                  I hope that is sarcasm.
                  So when Frank says it, do you think he's being sarcastic? When Lance says it, do you think he's being sarcastic? When Larry Bird says it, do you think he's being sarcastic?

                  I don't know why it's so hard for people to take it seriously, when those three have all said the exact same things. Or am I just dumb for thinking that they know what they'd be talking about?
                  Last edited by Since86; 11-07-2013, 04:59 PM.
                  Just because you're offended, doesn't mean you're right.” ― Ricky Gervais.

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                  • #99
                    Re: Odd Thought's: Running of the Bulls

                    Originally posted by Since86 View Post
                    I've come to the conclusion that Frank is force feeding him minutes, because they'll need him next year. I don't know how they're going to do it, but they need to cut a little bit of salary for Lance and I think a package of OJ/Ian or OJ/Copeland will be put together.

                    I'll say it now, I'll be extremely unhappy if OJ is traded, b/c Walsh signed Mahinmi to a guaranteed 4 year contract and had to sign Copeland this off season. I NEVER wanted Copeland and stated so. I was against the fully guaranteed contracts of Mahinmi and Green from day one.

                    If a package of players have to go in order to sign Lance, then let it be Mahinmi and Copeland.

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                    • Re: Odd Thought's: Running of the Bulls

                      Originally posted by D0NT SH0OT ME View Post
                      I always thought Paul's ceiling was at best a lesser version of Scottie Pippen. I saw him as developing into a player that could impact all aspects of the game, but would never be able to dominate at any of them. Not even once did I imagine him becoming the type of deadeye shooter it seems he is becoming, but boy am I glad I was wrong.
                      The talent was obviously there, but like with so many players; I figured he would fall just short of reaching his awesome awesome potential. That's just a testimony to his work ethic and hunger to improve.

                      One thing is for certain, he has played at an extraordinarily high level thus far this year. It's been great to see

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                      • Re: Odd Thought's: Running of the Bulls

                        Originally posted by Justin Tyme View Post
                        I'll say it now, I'll be extremely unhappy if OJ is traded, b/c Walsh signed Mahinmi to a guaranteed 4 year contract and had to sign Copeland this off season. I NEVER wanted Copeland and stated so. I was against the fully guaranteed contracts of Mahinmi and Green from day one.

                        If a package of players have to go in order to sign Lance, then let it be Mahinmi and Copeland.
                        How about Copeland and Sloan? Mahinmi is too important to our bench defense to move him without bringing in another $3 to $4 million back-up C who probably won't be as good.

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                        • Re: Odd Thought's: Running of the Bulls

                          Originally posted by Justin Tyme View Post
                          I'll say it now, I'll be extremely unhappy if OJ is traded, b/c Walsh signed Mahinmi to a guaranteed 4 year contract and had to sign Copeland this off season. I NEVER wanted Copeland and stated so. I was against the fully guaranteed contracts of Mahinmi and Green from day one.

                          If a package of players have to go in order to sign Lance, then let it be Mahinmi and Copeland.
                          Not sure why you hate on Mahinmi, considering he is anchoring the defense while Hibbert is out, he may have not been as much of a factor in last night game, but currently Mahinmi and Hibbert are in the top 5 for opp % in the paint. If you really think 4 million is too much for a backup center like Mahinmi, you need to check yourself. There are plenty of wings, but decent bigs are hard to come by.

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                          • Re: Odd Thought's: Running of the Bulls

                            Originally posted by immortality View Post
                            Not sure why you hate on Mahinmi, considering he is anchoring the defense while Hibbert is out, he may have not been as much of a factor in last night game, but currently Mahinmi and Hibbert are in the top 5 for opp % in the paint. If you really think 4 million is too much for a backup center like Mahinmi, you need to check yourself. There are plenty of wings, but decent bigs are hard to come by.
                            I just find it really interesting that around this time last year, there were discussions about having Ian start because he was doing so well compared to Roy.

                            I think Ian's ability to hold on to the ball is miles above what it was at its worst last year. Sure, he's not going to be the guy that can catch a pass that only grazes his fingertips, but I don't think he's dropping things for no reason either. To a certain extent, I think that the rebounding strategy for the big men in the middle is to try to tap the ball first rather than grab it - this is because pretty much everyone down low is doing exactly that. Only the wing guys are actually trying to hold the ball.
                            BillS

                            A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.
                            Or throw in a first-round pick and flip it for a max-level point guard...

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                            • Re: Odd Thought's: Running of the Bulls

                              Originally posted by able View Post
                              funny or not he has 30 days vacation for now, enough destructive crap
                              I'm curious, what rule did he break?

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                              • Re: Odd Thought's: Running of the Bulls

                                Originally posted by Since86 View Post
                                So when Frank says it, do you think he's being sarcastic? When Lance says it, do you think he's being sarcastic? When Larry Bird says it, do you think he's being sarcastic?

                                I don't know why it's so hard for people to take it seriously, when those three have all said the exact same things. Or am I just dumb for thinking that they know what they'd be talking about?

                                Yeah they all said it........before Granger got hurt and Lance played the best basketball of his life.

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