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Thread: Pacers/Cavaliers Postgame Thread 11/2/13

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    Default Re: Pacers/Cavaliers Postgame Thread 11/2/13

    I'm beginning to think score first point guards who aren't insane athletes are like run first QBs in the NFL, they eventually get figured out by defenses. I think Kyrie might be on deck.

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    Default Re: Pacers/Cavaliers Postgame Thread 11/2/13

    Tristan was averaging 19 and 10 in the Cavs first two games. He had 2 and 4 tonight in 35 minutes on 5 shots. West, Scola and Roy absolutely took his lunch money

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    Just for comparison with our rookie

    A. Bennett - 0-6-0-2-0

    S. Hill - 4-3-1-0-1

    Hill did this in less minutes

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    Just for comparison with our rookie

    A. Bennett - 0-6-0-2-0

    S. Hill - 4-3-1-0-1

    Hill did this in less minutes
    There is a reason everyone was shocked at him being drafted first. It really seemed like the Cavs would rather bunt on the draft than draft someone who would actually help them.

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    Absolutely love that pic.
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    ^^ This shows the kind of baller you want on your team.

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    Default Re: Pacers/Cavaliers Postgame Thread 11/2/13

    He learned it from AJ Price.

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    To me, this is the biggest tell that PG is in that upper echelon of elite players. Obviously he needs to keep it up for that statement to be true. But each game this year he has made it look easy while really having damn good performances. Its like watching LeBron and Durant. No I'm not saying PG is as good as them.... yet. But this kid is special and is one of the best in the game right now.
    I felt that way about him last season too.

    Thinking PG was being a bit sloppy, could be shooting better, could be playing better defense, could be playing better overall.

    And he'd put up ridiculous stats while holding his opponent to a terrible shooting percentage.

    He's just special.

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    Default Re: Pacers/Cavaliers Postgame Thread 11/2/13

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    I'm starting to appreciate Ian a lot more. His D is excellent. He's not an offensive weapon but being able to have a big defensive anchor at C for 48 minutes is massive.
    I think that Mahinmi just has to accept this role. He should be a purely defensive minded Player with one purpose on the floor....to defend the paint.

    When it comes to his offensive game....well, it's just offensive IF he decides to try to score on his own. It's just that I sometimes see him go all "Dahntay....I think I'm Kobe Bryant...Jones" on us sometimes and I question who on Earth told him to dribble the ball for more than 3 seconds...much less try to score on his own. If he let's the offense comes to him....via put backs and making easy baskets when the defense isn't paying attention from him near the basket....then he'll get his points.
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    Default Re: Pacers/Cavaliers Postgame Thread 11/2/13

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    I think that Mahinmi just has to accept this role. He should be a purely defensive minded Player with one purpose on the floor....to defend the paint.

    When it comes to his offensive game....well, it's just offensive IF he decides to try to score on his own. It's just that I sometimes see him go all "Dahntay....I think I'm Kobe Bryant...Jones" on us sometimes and I question who on Earth told him to dribble the ball for more than 3 seconds...much less try to score on his own. If he let's the offense comes to him....via put backs and making easy baskets when the defense isn't paying attention from him near the basket....then he'll get his points.



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    I think that Mahinmi just has to accept this role. He should be a purely defensive minded Player with one purpose on the floor....to defend the paint.

    When it comes to his offensive game....well, it's just offensive IF he decides to try to score on his own. It's just that I sometimes see him go all "Dahntay....I think I'm Kobe Bryant...Jones" on us sometimes and I question who on Earth told him to dribble the ball for more than 3 seconds...much less try to score on his own. If he let's the offense comes to him....via put backs and making easy baskets when the defense isn't paying attention from him near the basket....then he'll get his points.
    I also think part of it is guys have a better understanding how to give Mahinmi the ball this year. You can't throw him a laser pass while he's rolling to the rim, that's not him. Just like you're not gonna throw an off the backboard alley oop to David West. So far it looks like they're giving Mahinmi clean passes in spots where he's comfortable catching the ball.

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    Default Re: Pacers/Cavaliers Postgame Thread 11/2/13

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    I also think part of it is guys have a better understanding how to give Mahinmi the ball this year. You can't throw him a laser pass PERIOD. Just like you're not gonna throw an off the backboard alley oop to David West. So far it looks like they're giving Mahinmi clean passes in spots where he's comfortable catching the ball.
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    I'm beginning to think score first point guards who aren't insane athletes are like run first QBs in the NFL, they eventually get figured out by defenses. I think Kyrie might be on deck.
    No Kyrie will still have a great year we just happen to always play him great. In 3 career games against us coming into this game he was averaging 10 points on 35 percent shooting so we have figured him out but he will still do good things this year for his team.

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    If Roy could catch Lance's simple behind the back pass we would see a lot more highlights this year. Oh well.
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    Sooo...Lance is kinda exactly what Cleveland hopes Dion Waiters turns into, right?

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    Default Re: Pacers/Cavaliers Postgame Thread 11/2/13

    Here's an important stat:

    Paul George FG% this season: 48.1%

    Paul George FG% last season: 41.9%

    Obviously 3 games is a small sample size, but that's a nice leap so far. He will be an offensive machine if he can keep that up. He shot roughly 50% against the Heat in the ECF's last year and also shot close to it in the pre-season. If he can stay near that 48% throughout this season, then we're talking about a guy who is looking at being a top 5 player in the league.

    It's special what we have in this guy. I'm as big of a Reggie fan as anyone, but Reggie didn't have the ceiling that Paul has. Paul has the tools to easily be the greatest player in franchise history. The national media has increasing interest in him. This guy is on his way to becoming one of the biggest names in the NBA.

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    Default Re: Pacers/Cavaliers Postgame Thread 11/2/13

    Great game, and good start to the season...

    Looking forward to seeing how we play against an actual contender though, before I start getting excited.

    However, I think I can start getting more excited about our second team now, as they look to have a much different look, a much improved one. Mahinmi has taken the defense up a real notch so far this year. Scola as a mid range shooter is a very big deal. Watson is most certainly not a liability. OJ and Lance can really add an offensive punch. Chemistry looks like it will grow over the season.

    That alone could be a game changer for us this year.

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    What's great about development of Stephenson/bench (hopefully continued) is that there really is no wrong move to make with DG33. Start DG33? Lance will murder the other team's bench, and you can still treat DG's minutes with great care as you can bring Stephenson off the bench early if need be since he's fully capable of playing with starters. Start Stephenson? Similar results we're seeing now, plus I don't think this bench puts sole pressure on DG to be THE scorer (though certainly will need to work his way into being A scorer).

    People act like it's a major problem, figuring this out. And yeah, I'm sure there will be some amount of mistakes/adjustments that need be made. But I look at it as a case where there's really no wrong move to make. They're afforded a ton of flexibility to tweak minutes/lineups as they see fit, and will have the luxury of being able to do so on an opponent-by-opponent basis as well.

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    Default Re: Pacers/Cavaliers Postgame Thread 11/2/13

    PG got the first double double for a Pacer. Just shows that the starting five the Pacers have can all do a bit of everything. PG and Lance have to be among the best rebounders at their positions.
    Lance + Starting SG = Awesome

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    Default Re: Pacers/Cavaliers Postgame Thread 11/2/13

    If the Cavs keep sucking at drafting, I don't see how Kyrie stays. Tristan is solid, but I get the pick, there wasn't really anyone else. Taking Waiters was a huge mistake as well as Bennett. haha No wonder LeBron left.
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    Default Re: Pacers/Cavaliers Postgame Thread 11/2/13

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    If the Cavs keep sucking at drafting, I don't see how Kyrie stays. Tristan is solid, but I get the pick, there wasn't really anyone else. Taking Waiters was a huge mistake as well as Bennett. haha No wonder LeBron left.
    Yeah the Cavs drafting other than drafting Kyrie has been a mess all those players they have drafted are not doing it for me.

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    Default Re: Pacers/Cavaliers Postgame Thread 11/2/13

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    He looks like a wolf. What a badass.

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    Default Re: Pacers/Cavaliers Postgame Thread 11/2/13

    I don't think any one has pointed it out yet, but even Sloan held his own out there. This bench is awesome. Larry Bird is amazing.

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    Default Re: Pacers/Cavaliers Postgame Thread 11/2/13

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    I'm beginning to think score first point guards who aren't insane athletes are like run first QBs in the NFL, they eventually get figured out by defenses. I think Kyrie might be on deck.
    Tell that to Stephen Curry, Damian Lilard and Tony Parker. Kyrie is just having a tough few games, he will be back on track.

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