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    We had a thread last year where we could kinda keep track of old Pacer players. I enjoyed it and didn't see the thread so figured I'd make one for this year.

    I'll start: Miles. Plumlee. 0_0
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    For a guy who's best case career scenario was billed as "a Jeff Foster type player," I will say that Miles showed a much greater offensive repertoire last night than Foster ever had. Granted it was one game but for a guy who only sniffed 50 total minutes of garbage PT last year he looked very very comfortable out there in meaningful minutes last night.

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    That's not a surprise. Miles has looked good offensively in SL as well.
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    Just rename this "the Miles Plumee thread" and be done with it...

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    ^^ Wait until somone sees Tyler's #s. It can be the Hanslee thread.

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    The Hanslee thread with DJ Augusitin sponsored by Tinsley?

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    I watched the first hour of the Raptors vs Celtics game. Wanted to see Tyler and see how the Celtics would play under Stevens.

    The Celtics played hard, were solid defensively, but they really lack talent. From what I saw of the game - first half., I would say the Celtics appear to be well coached, but won't win a lot of games at least not until Rondo comes back.

    Tyler didn't do to much in the first half, wasn't really involved in the offense, but he must have played well in the second half because his stats ended up being good

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    The Hanslee thread with DJ Augusitin sponsored by Tinsley?
    With occasional guest appearances by Jeff Pendergraph and perhaps Gerald Green.

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    Tinsley, Artest and JO all played minutes last night, none of them particularly well. Jermaine looked healthy in Golden State.


    Also, it looks like A.J. Price isn't alone in his disturbing attraction to Tyler Hansbrough:

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    The numbers Plumlee put up last night are better than I ever thought he'd have in an NBA game.

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    The numbers Plumlee put up last night are better than I ever thought he'd have in an NBA game.

    The numbers Plumlee put up last night are better than I ever thought he'd have as his season totals.

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    Our former big guys were doing good in their openers. Miles, Tyler and Josh did well as per their stat lines.

    Miles: 18pts, 8/14fg, 15rebs (5 offensive), 3blks as a starter...not too shabby for a starter.
    Tyler: 7pts, 3/4fg, 12rebs (5 offensive), 3blks...and only 1 blocked attempt!
    Josh: 15pts, 5/9fg, 4rebs, 3 assists against the new bigs of Houston

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    I think the most impressive stat for Plumlee is his 1 foul. He had 3 blocks, and numerous other plays where he employed Hibbert's straight up jump and he controlled the middle all night. Very impressive to do without getting any foul calls when you're a no named player.


    Just look at all these misses at the rim by Portland. There was a few times Lillard turned the corner only to stop when Plumlee was standing there.

    http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/shotch...meId=400488888

    And in his 18pts, he hit a 16 ft jumper from the baseline and had a nice half hook bank shot.
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    I thought Haywoode was really sharp in the LAL-GSW game.

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    Miles Plumlee - 18 and 15 w/ 3 blocks
    Josh McRoberts - 15pts, 4boards, 3 dimes w/ 1 steal and block
    Jermaine O'Neal - 7pt 1board 1block (Warriors are scary good)
    Al Harrington - 4pts
    DJ Augustin - 5pts 2dimes
    Tyler Hans - 7pts 12boards w/ 3blocks (shot 3-4 his only miss was blocked, so there's that)
    Gerald Green - 5pts
    Jarrett Jack - 12pts 3board 3dimes w/ 1steal

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    That was not Miles Plumlee. Someone else has taken over his body and skills.

    Best tweet I read yesterday was among the lines "Now Plumlee attempting the Dirk step back shot...calm down son."
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    I think people need to keep in mind that stats can be misleading when you play on a bad team.

    Remember Troy Murphy? He put up great stats on bad teams. DJ Augustin is another great example. Teams are going to score 80 points in almost every game, and somebody has to get those points.

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    Plumlee will stick around in the NBA for quite some time, as a backup, without any type of offensive game at all. He's a huge body, that's extremely athletic, good rebounder, good shot blocker, and can defend one-on-one. Seriously, you only needed to watch a few minutes of him patrolling the middle last night to get the sense that he's already there defensively. Portland knew it, that's for sure.
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    http://www.nba.com/games/20131030/PO...fo.html?ls=slt

    Re-enactment of the classic prank on G.G.

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    I think people need to keep in mind that stats can be misleading when you play on a bad team.

    Remember Troy Murphy? He put up great stats on bad teams. DJ Augustin is another great example. Teams are going to score 80 points in almost every game, and somebody has to get those points.
    Two things, though:

    1) Miles had a very positive impact on the Suns on both ends of the floor. He was one of their best players yesterday alongside Dragic and Bledsoe.

    2) The Suns actually won.
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    Plumlee can play. Bird knew what he saw when he drafted him. Wasn't gonna get minutes as a Rookie on a contending team
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    For a guy who's best case career scenario was billed as "a Jeff Foster type player," I will say that Miles showed a much greater offensive repertoire last night than Foster ever had. Granted it was one game but for a guy who only sniffed 50 total minutes of garbage PT last year he looked very very comfortable out there in meaningful minutes last night.
    I think you might be misusing what people meant when they said "a Jeff Foster type player". Most people acknowledged he was more offensively gifted, and less defensively gifted. I think what most people meant was a similar talent level as Foster.

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    Two things, though:

    1) Miles had a very positive impact on the Suns on both ends of the floor. He was one of their best players yesterday alongside Dragic and Bledsoe.

    2) The Suns actually won.
    Of course. However, people always look at a box score and think that tells the entire story. I watched that game, and while I was surprised at how much better he looked, he would still be our third string center.

    I imagine Tyler is going to have a very good statistical year in Toronto, but I don't think he will help them win many games.

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    Of course. However, people always look at a box score and think that tells the entire story. I watched that game, and while I was surprised at how much better he looked, he would still be our third string center.

    I imagine Tyler is going to have a very good statistical year in Toronto, but I don't think he will help them win many games.
    He would still be our 3rd string Center but that's just an indication of how deep we are in the Center spot.
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    I'm not sure he would be our 3rd string center. I've never backed down from defending Ian, because I see Ian for what his role is, i.e. defense and rebounding, and really don't care what he does offensively, but if we assume that Plumlee will continue to have a similiar impact defensively, I think Miles would be a better option.

    His defense was really really good. I kept wondering why they didn't try him on LA, because there for a while he was just turning and shooting over Morris. Probably because Morris would have to guard Robin Lopez, but IMHO I'd rather him beat you than LA.

    Assuming his defense stays somewhat consistent, he's already filling the role that Ian does. I think his ability to not only catch the ball, but catch a lob pass and either dunk it or control it and come back down and gather himself before going back up starts moving him in front of what Ian is capable of doing.

    If I jumping the gun on his defensive ability, so be it, but I don't think that type of thing just comes and goes like the offensive end. There were still areas of improvement, no doubt, but it's pretty encouraging to see someone have such a large impact on their very first given opportunity.

    He might have started out as 3rd string, and maybe stayed there the entire year, but it's not as easily accepted IMHO, than what it was two days ago.
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