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    BTW... IMO that reversed catch was exactly right. You have to finish the reception. Until your body stops sliding, rolling, etc you have to maintain possession and control of the ball. Obviously he was out of bounds with it too so getting control laying out of bounds isn't the same as it never touching the turf on an inbounds reception.
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    BTW... IMO that reversed catch was exactly right. You have to finish the reception. Until your body stops sliding, rolling, etc you have to maintain possession and control of the ball. Obviously he was out of bounds with it too so getting control laying out of bounds isn't the same as it never touching the turf on an inbounds reception.
    Yeah, as soon as I saw that bobble at the end I knew that was getting reversed. Calvin Johnson had an instance a season or two ago exactly like this one and they reversed that one too. Pags knew it too. He saw it right in front of him and didn't even wait for his booth guys to tell him to throw the red flag.
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    Andrew Luck, ladies and gentlemen.

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    This is a division game so I expect it to be a lot closer than that

    Colts 27
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    I'd be happier about the win but given the circumstances I just hope Gary Kubiak is okay as un PC as it is to say I think that's what the Colts needed to turn this around. The whole episode completely took the crowd out of the game.

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    ...as un PC as it is to say...
    Well as un PC as this sounds when Houston trotted the punt team out before the two minute warning, I turned to my wife and said The Texans said Kubiak didn't have a heart attack but they better check again because if he's watching them line up to punt he is now. I also hope Kubiak is OK, but I would have never punted there. Shows you what I know because it worked out for them and they had a chance to tie it at the gun.
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    That kicker gave us a chance and we took it. Nice comeback

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    That kicker gave us a chance and we took it. Nice comeback
    Definitely, part of becoming a good team is knowing when to kick the door down when the other teams leaves it open.

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    All I kept saying in the 4th Quarter was..."I can't believe we might steal this game". THAT is the definition of stealing one.

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    All I kept saying in the 4th Quarter was..."I can't believe we might steal this game". THAT is the definition of stealing one.

    It reminds me of multiple ugly games that we stole throughout the Manning years. Great teams find ways to win games that they have no business winning.

    For the first half, Luck couldn't do anything. But when he had to make plays at the end, he came through like he always does.

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    We're so incredibly lucky to have 2 QBs in a row who are special. Just incredibly lucky
    Don't ask Marvin Harrison what he did during the bye week. "Batman never told where the Bat Cave is," he explained.

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    All I kept saying in the 4th Quarter was..."I can't believe we might steal this game". THAT is the definition of stealing one.
    Truthfully, it's probably Luck's 4th or 5th most unlikely theft of a game.

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    I think Luck is a cooler customer than Manning.... :hide:
    Luck doesn't seem to force the stuff Manning did/does.
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    I think Luck is a cooler customer than Manning.... :hide:
    Luck doesn't seem to force the stuff Manning did/does.

    He did early on this game but later on he adjusted.

    I do think Luck is calmer about things but they are two different personalities so it doesn't really mean much if the result is the same a come from behind regular season win they had no business winning.

    However in the end you really can't compare the two (as much as people here and the pundits want to for some inexplicable reason) the teams aren't the same.

    As much of a tool as I think Jimbo is most of the time he did something right he made sure the team was built so it doesn't live and die with Andrew Luck(despite the fact that most of our wins live and die with Andrew Luck) like it did with Manning.

    That also factors into things. Defense and a Run game actually matter now.

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    What's up with Fleener's "jazz hands" celebration? Did I miss something on Fallon or what?

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    For the life of me I couldn't understand why Luck didn't take off running in this game. I don't remember him running once. With all the pressure Houston was bringing he should have made them pay with his feet. Helps keep the defense honest too.

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    For the life of me I couldn't understand why Luck didn't take off running in this game. I don't remember him running once. With all the pressure Houston was bringing he should have made them pay with his feet. Helps keep the defense honest too.
    Agreed. There were some plays where he could have run but he didn't. One especially, when he started running and then threw an incomplete to Fleener or Whalen. We don't want him to become RGIII of last season but since he saw his passes weren't falling, our OL collapsing too many times not giving enough times for the routes to develop (that or the receivers not getting open), and Houston sending blitzes, he should have run. It would have given us some first downs.
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    What's up with Fleener's "jazz hands" celebration? Did I miss something on Fallon or what?
    Fallon voted Griff Whalen most likely to use Jazz Hands after a TD. Fleenor and Whalen were teammates at Stanford.

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    I know that TY is good at punt returns, but I absolutely hate that we continue to use him for it. We already lost our best receiver to injury this year, so why are we putting our remaining top receiver in that position? I cringe every time I see him return a punt. There has to be someone else on the roster who could be adequate enough at it.

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    I know that TY is good at punt returns, but I absolutely hate that we continue to use him for it. We already lost our best receiver to injury this year, so why are we putting our remaining top receiver in that position? I cringe every time I see him return a punt. There has to be someone else on the roster who could be adequate enough at it.
    I agree I thought LaVon Brazill would've been a far better option for the PR.

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    I agree I thought LaVon Brazill would've been a far better option for the PR.
    Agreed. Marvin Harrison returned punts in his rookie year, but we put a stop to that once we realized that he was going to be our WR1 for a long long time. Reggie Wayne has never returned a punt in his life. You don't see the Lions throwing Calvin Johnson out there to return punts. I'm sure that a lot of the top receivers could be excellent at punt returns, but teams understand that throwing your best receiver out there in that scenario is foolish because it adds to the likelihood that they could get hurt.

    It really does boggle my mind that we continue to put TY out there to do that. The guy is clearly our best receiver without Reggie. Playing WR is all he should be doing. It's just silly to use him as punt returner when it's a completely unnecessary added risk. Coach someone else to do it. That's something we should have been doing in the bye week.

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    Agreed. Marvin Harrison returned punts in his rookie year, but we put a stop to that once we realized that he was going to be our WR1 for a long long time. Reggie Wayne has never returned a punt in his life. You don't see the Lions throwing Calvin Johnson out there to return punts. I'm sure that a lot of the top receivers could be excellent at punt returns, but teams understand that throwing your best receiver out there in that scenario is foolish because it adds to the likelihood that they could get hurt.

    It really does boggle my mind that we continue to put TY out there to do that. The guy is clearly our best receiver without Reggie. Playing WR is all he should be doing. It's just silly to use him as punt returner when it's a completely unnecessary added risk. Coach someone else to do it. That's something we should have been doing in the bye week.
    I can think of a few teams who have done this in the past. Randall Cobb, DeSean Jackson to name a few. Punts are way harder to field than kick offs and its really important to have a sure handed guy doing the job.

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    TY could always be instructed to fair catch everything outside the 10 yard line...
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    punt returns are one thing, but having TY return KO's is dumb. KO's don't even matter with the rule change last year. hell, I wouldn't be upset if they sent 11 guys to try and block it and just let the ball land wherever it may.

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    Luck is just incredible. I don't know that anyone in sports has ever lived up to the hype like he has. Even Lebron, LBJ did individually but it took Clevenland a couple years to get rolling. Luck just wins football games

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    How many times does Luck need to lead the Colts back from behind, by opening up the playbook and allowing him to make plays with his arm, before Pep figures out that it might be a better idea to open it up a bit from the start of the game instead of waiting until he's forced to do it?
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