If he looked like pre injury DG(for one or two quarters) I guess pre injury DG was worse than I thought, my bad for thinking that he was way better than whatever we saw in preseason.
So Long And Thanks For All The Fish.
If you've done 6 impossible things today?
Then why not have Breakfast at Milliways!
DRose was great in the preseason. Notice how DRose has been playing in the regular season? 14.3ppg, 26% from three, 5.7 turnovers. Yes, 5.7 freaking turnovers...and only 4.3 assists.
Chicago's record? 1-2
Think that's hurting their chances for home court. YOU BET IT IS...him coming back rusty like Granger would be.
A freak of nature like Drose had all pre season but (one game) plus 3 regular season games to get rid of the "rust" and he still looks bad, some people expect DG to be pre injury DG in just 10 games because they say so
Note that I'm not even talking about Drose already been cleared to play since last season while DG was cleared a month ago(more or less not going to argue about it).
Last edited by vnzla81; 11-05-2013 at 07:27 PM.
Terrible comparison, for many reasons.
1. The Bulls offense is built completely around Rose, the Pacers are not.
2. Rose is 100% reliant on his athleticism, Granger is not.
3. While Granger looked good moving around out there, Rose would go out and ice his knees.
4. Different injuries, different players, how well Rose does has no bearing on how well Granger does.
By the way, absolutely no one has said Granger wouldn't be rusty, no one single person. In fact, everyone has said he would be rusty. You know what, the only way to get rid of that rust is by playing. If you live in fear of rust, and don't play someone because they may be rusty, well they will never play ever again. Your logic in this situation is seriously jacked up. You act like playing Granger coming back is he worst thing ever.
I would gladly lose 10 regular season games if it means we have a better team in the playoffs. The Bulls would gladly lose these early games if it means Rose gets a chance to knock off his rust, and gets back to being the kind of player he can be by the time the playoffs come around. Homecourt advantage is meaningless. If you have the better team you will win the series. Miami didn't beat us because they had homecourt, they beat us because they were the better team. I don't care what the stats say about homecourt because those stats are the equivalent of a self-fulfilling prophecy. The vast majority of the time the team with the better regular season record is the better team. The have a better record for a reason.
Where that might not be true is in cases of injuries. For example last season, if it wasn't for Danny's injury we probably don't start with such a horrid record, and instead of the third seed we beat out the Knicks for the number two seed. Yeah, Rose may be costing the Bulls wins right now, and it may cost them homecourt, but you know what they are more likely to win in the playoffs by sucking right now as Rose works his way back into form than they are if they wait until they have homecourt wrapped up before Rose sees any playing time.
Granger shouldn't be relied upon, either early or late in this season...not when you can instead rely on Lance. You only have so many chances. Look at the Colts. They won it all after many years of futility in the playoffs...but only once. Look at Chicago right now. An injured player relied upon does impact the team. Perhaps not as much as Rose but it will still matter. It's too important that our key players are healthy both early and late in the season.
Wow ........Originally Posted by Eleazar
I would gladly lose 10 regular season games if it means we have a better team in the playoffs.
However, there is a big difference between Rose who is tasked to play 33+ MPG out of the gate and do everything offensively with Granger who will only be tasked to play 30 MPG at most (and I'm guessing 25 MPG is a better estimate) and just provide spot up shooting and defense.
I look forward to having Granger back in a week or two.
The entire draft. Love the picks of Turner, Young and trading for Christmas.
Signing Glen Robinson III
Trading for Budinger
Signing Monta Ellis
Signing Jordan Hill (not for the player, but for his deal)
Re-signing Stuckey and Allen
The Heat play a completely different type of basketball than we do. Their offensive sets have nothing to do with ours. The Heat are a PnR-heavy team and we are a screen-heavy power-post team. It's just a different kind of basketball.
In our team there is no difference between SG and SF. When you see our team out there can you differentiate between who is playing SG and who is playing SF? If you can then answer the:
When we play Solomon Hill and Orlando Johnson together who is the SG and who is the SF?
When Lance is in the game with Orlando Johnson who is playing SG and who is playing SF?
When Lance is in the game with Solomon Hill who is playing SG and who is playing SF?
Of course they're different. Paul and Danny are different. Paul and Lance are different. That's not what Frank is saying.
Frank is saying that in the offensive system the Pacers run, there's no difference between the 2 and the 3. The wings are interchangeable. So if Danny and Paul are on the floor together, they're both playing "wing." One isn't the 3 and the other isn't the 2. Same thing if Lance and Danny are out there, or Lance and Paul. They all play the same position.
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Did you think I was putting Granger down? I was only pointing out that his figures from one game gave me more hope than what Hicks noticed from a different game. I don't get the "trend" remark at all.
Last edited by Tom White; 11-05-2013 at 07:16 PM.