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    Call me crazy, but I'm a bit more skeptical about being sold the company line...
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    Is this included the time he has currently been out or is it an additional three weeks?

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    Definitely sucks, thanks alot Vogel! Worries were justified when he was force feeding Granger minutes in all those blowout losses early on in preseason. This coach as made alot of questionable calls over the last year when it comes to who is in the game at certain times....

    I'd rather him be out a month, than re-injure it 2 weeks from now and completely tear the muscle.
    ...and if barely played preseason and then was rusty for a month people would complain he didn't play enough in preseason. Danny needed minutes, and I'd rarther this happen now.

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    If they were sitting him because of the knee, I would feel completely differently. But it's not.

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    There should only be 2 preseason games max.
    What does that have to do with it?

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    Call me crazy, but I'm a bit more skeptical about being sold the company line...
    Based on what evidence, though?

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    ...and if barely played preseason and then was rusty for a month people would complain he didn't play enough in preseason. Danny needed minutes, and I'd rarther this happen now.
    This.

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    Call me crazy, but I'm a bit more skeptical about being sold the company line...

    Remember the comments yesterday about Butler and what a nice story that was and that he brings all this leadership and blah blah blah? they don't want to say that he is Danny's replacement if his "minor injury" is not "minor" anymore.


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    So, more proof that keeping Rasual Butler around is more than just promoting a good story. Granger can only do light shooting at this point

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    ...and if barely played preseason and then was rusty for a month people would complain he didn't play enough in preseason. Danny needed minutes, and I'd rarther this happen now.
    Seriously? They were feeding +30mpg. Could have left it at 20 easily, as they were blow out losses. Danny left the 4th game against Dallas before half-time. Vogel fed him those minutes on an international travel schedule as well. Completely stupid of our coach. Easing Danny back into his minutes would have been the smart thing to do.
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    Damn this sucks...unbelievable, but at the same time I'm not shocked.
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    I feel sorry for Danny, I hope he gets back w/o a problem soon.

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    Seriously? They were feeding +30mpg.
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    At least this should put to rest the ridiculous idea that Lance should be coming off the bench.
    The idea is that Lance should have the ball in his hands more and it is not ridiculous at all. It's just easier to place the ball in Lance's hands if he's coming off the bench.
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    The idea is that Lance should have the ball in his hands more and it is not ridiculous at all. It's just easier to place the ball in Lance's hands if he's coming off the bench.

    It would be an interesting idea if we actually had a viable player to start in his place, but we don't right now. Lance offers plenty of strengths to the starting unit and that's where the team needs him right now.

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    It's a calf injury this time, and in a month or two it'll be something else.
    Okay, then please let us know what it's going to be and why.

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    Calf injuries need rest. Let him rest. We'll see what happens.
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    It would be an interesting idea if we actually had a viable player to start in his place, but we don't right now. Lance offers plenty of strengths to the starting unit and that's where the team needs him right now.
    Yes but the team also needs a boost off the bench and Lance would be perfect for it.

    When Lance is with the starters and he doesn't push the ball after a defensive rebound he is mostly sitting in a corner. Sitting in a corner is something that both OJ and Solo can do. Doing what Lance can do off the bench with the ball in his hands, though, is a much harder task. We cannot afford Lance to be our Thabo Sefolosha if Danny is going to miss time. We need him to have the ball in his hands and be aggressive.
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    Okay, then please let us know what it's going to be and why.
    You make it sound like people are whacky to worry about the health of a player who played all of 5 games last year, and then couldn't make it out of pre-season without suffering an injury that will cause him to miss a few weeks.

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    Seriously? They were feeding +30mpg. Could have left it at 20 easily, as they were blow out losses. Danny left the 4th game against Dallas before half-time. Vogel fed him those minutes on an international travel schedule as well. Completely stupid of our coach. Easing Danny back into his minutes would have been the smart thing to do.
    I kind of agree with you because I remember telling Sollozzo about how stupid it was for them to try to prove that DG was back by not limiting his minutes and all that but then I listened to his interview about how he got injured and it looks like he was the one pushing them to give him as many minutes as they could, so sure blame the Pacers but also blame Danny for not taking care of himself.

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    Yes but the team also needs a boost off the bench and Lance would be perfect for it.

    When Lance is with the starters and he doesn't push the ball after a defensive rebound he is mostly sitting in a corner. Sitting in a corner is something that both OJ and Solo can do. Doing what Lance can do off the bench with the ball in his hands, though, is a much harder task. We cannot afford Lance to be our Thabo Sefolosha if Danny is going to miss time. We need him to have the ball in his hands and be aggressive.
    You're only looking at it through the offensive end. Lance is crucial because he fits in perfectly with our defensive scheme. I just don't buy that a rookie in Solo with no NBA experience would immediately be able to start and play acceptable defense with limited mistakes Gerald Green is a vet who has been in the NBA for a long time, yet he was benched for not being able to play within our defense last year. I'm not saying that Solo will be Gerald Green, but it's pretty clear that not just anyone can come in and play defense for the Pacers. OJ and Solo have never played consistent minutes. I would be stunned if Vogel started either of those guys. The beginning of the game is crucial and we can not have guys making mistakes while leaving Lance on the bench, who we know full well can play great defense in our system.

    Lance can still play minutes with some bench players and have the ball in his hands. Vogel learned his lesson after the 2012 Miami series that it's not a good idea to play 5 bench players.

    Why can't we afford to let Lance develop on last year's role? Danny didn't play last year either, yet we got to Game 7 of the ECF's with Lance playing the role he did.

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    I kind of agree with you because I remember telling Sollozzo about how stupid it was for them to try to prove that DG was back by not limiting his minutes and all that but then I listened to his interview about how he got injured and it looks like he was the one pushing them to give him as many minutes as they could, so sure blame the Pacers but also blame Danny for not taking care of himself.
    And if they would have limited minutes, we would have gotten a healthy dose of "see he's not healthy, they're restricting his minutes!" Proving once again it's damned if you do, damned if you don't.

    I can't wait for Danny to get the flu or something, and then it be proof of how injured he'll be..... oh wait.
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    You're only looking at it through the offensive end. Lance is crucial because he fits in perfectly with our defensive scheme. I just don't buy that a rookie in Solo with no NBA experience would immediately be able to start and play acceptable defense with limited mistakes Gerald Green is a vet who has been in the NBA for a long time, yet he was benched for not being able to play within our defense last year.
    So basically you don't think he can do exactly what Lance did last year?
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    You make it sound like people are whacky to worry about the health of a player who played all of 5 games last year, and then couldn't make it out of pre-season without suffering an injury that will cause him to miss a few weeks.
    I literally addressed this in my initial response to the thread, man:

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    I don't blame being concerned
    This over-simplistic 'reasoning' is just driving me nuts. Yes, he was hurt very badly last year, causing him to miss essentially all season. No, this was not the case for years prior to last season. No, the current injury is not the same injury he had last year.

    It's not that hard to see why this isn't the kiss of death, people. And unless you have some evidence to support this notion that his knee injury last year followed up by a calf strain now means he's just going to keep getting hurt all the time, you really ought to stop acting like that's a fact.

    If that's such a given fact, then please enlighten the rest of us as to when, what, and why he's going to keep getting injured from now on. I'm all for learning something new, if in fact it's the truth. I just think you guys are making it up out of worry or paranoia (or for at least one person, agenda/propaganda).

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    So basically you don't think he can do exactly what Lance did last year?
    Nope. Lance is a special talent. Not everyone can be Lance. Gerald Green has been in the NBA since 2005, yet he was benched because he couldn't grasp our defensive schemes. I'm not going to count on a cold rookie being so good that he could start for a top 3 NBA team. Last year was Lance's first year of playing big minutes, but it was still his third year in the NBA. He still had two years worth of practice and some playing time under his belt. Solo is a 100% cold rookie right now.

    Do I think Solo could take over a playoff game this season like Lance did in Game 6 last year against New York? Hell no.

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