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    This is the first preseason game I watched. The team looked really tired and out of shape. That's what it means when players can't get the ball over the front of the rim (especially on free throws). The team clearly is not in game shape. What happened in training camp? Also the new players still look very uncomfortable.

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    They traveled half way across the world less than a week ago. That's why they have tired legs. Roy, West, and GHill all sat out practice wed. to rest.
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    What if someone from a school of business or management school were to ask, How did you do this? How did you get the Pacers turned around? Is there a general approach you've taken that can be summarized?

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    I was really happy with the starting unit and the first quarter, and I thought Lance coming off the bench looked pretty good. The problem was that our legs went out from under us in the 4th quarter, affecting shooting in general and FTs specifically. Is that still an artifact of the Asia trip? We're a day or two past when I would hope they would have recovered, but games and practices would have worn down the guys who didn't sit out Wednesday.

    I also think if this had been a regular season game we would have seen Granger on the floor to take some of the fouling pressure off PG if nothing else. I understand why they are being cautious about the calf, and I also think it is great for Frank to be able to test out some deep lineups from time to time, but I'm starting to think of Scola as another one of those guys who are supposedly better than Danny yet turn out not to be when push comes to shove.

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    This is ridiculous, absolutely ridiculous. Guess we shouldn't watch the team this year, it's hopeless.

    We need to bow down to the big markets and know our place.

    The Bulls beat the Nets in the playoffs last year without Rose and Deng- they can compete without a full roster. We have known this for awhile.
    I actually agree. This game doesn't mean squat.

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    I was really happy with the starting unit and the first quarter, and I thought Lance coming off the bench looked pretty good. The problem was that our legs went out from under us in the 4th quarter, affecting shooting in general and FTs specifically. Is that still an artifact of the Asia trip? We're a day or two past when I would hope they would have recovered, but games and practices would have worn down the guys who didn't sit out Wednesday.

    I also think if this had been a regular season game we would have seen Granger on the floor to take some of the fouling pressure off PG if nothing else. I understand why they are being cautious about the calf, and I also think it is great for Frank to be able to test out some deep lineups from time to time, but I'm starting to think of Scola as another one of those guys who are supposedly better than Danny yet turn out not to be when push comes to shove.

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    Not sure if serious, actually some of the fouling pressure on Paul George yesterday was because he was trying to cover his guy and whoever Danny and Lance were guarding, he over helps to cover for the other guys mistakes too much.

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    Not sure if serious, actually some of the fouling pressure on Paul George yesterday was because he was trying to cover his guy and whoever Danny and Lance were guarding, he over helps to cover for the other guys mistakes too much.
    There's been some of this for sure...but they've also called Paul on a lot of bs fouls when he's "bodying" his man on the perimeter. Idk if it's the refs in preseason form or if it's a new emphasis, but they're calling A LOT of touch fouls on our perimeter players with Paul receiving the brunt of it.

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    I actually agree. This game doesn't mean squat.
    Well, don't forget that last year there were several posters saying "David West should demand out, this team doesn't deserve him" during the loss to Miami early in the regular season.

    Fans in general, and most that post here during games, are lemurs. The first sign of trouble, lets overreact and jump ship.

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    Well, don't forget that last year there were several posters saying "David West should demand out, this team doesn't deserve him" during the loss to Miami early in the regular season.

    Fans in general, and most that post here during games, are lemurs. The first sign of trouble, lets overreact and jump ship.
    Nobody here is writing the obit for the Pacers after a string of losses in the preseason. The only thing I said is, until something changes, the Pacers are looked upon league wide as being a step behind the Bulls at this point. That's not to say things will not change pretty quickly. The first part of the season last year we looked pretty weak, particularly George and Hibbert. Then they turned it around. I fully expect our team to play better as the year progresses.

    But that game did mean more than a typical preseason game. No, it didn't effect the standings but we had already lost the first preseason contest with Chicago and I'm certain we tried to win that game last night. IOW, I believe that was in fact a real display of what we should expect for the regular season. If the regular season had started with that game, I seriously doubt the outcome would have been different. The caveat is that we did travel half way around the world and had tired legs.

    Let's see how we fair against the Brooklyn's of the NBA as well. We had a good run last year and I don't think it was a fluke. But we still have a lot to prove.
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    If the Pacers won people viewing the Pacers behind would say its just preseason and wait until the regular season to make the swap if they even do. You know, like we should be doing.
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    What if someone from a school of business or management school were to ask, How did you do this? How did you get the Pacers turned around? Is there a general approach you've taken that can be summarized?

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    I thought the Pacers played well in spurts. nothing that concerns me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ace E.Anderson View Post
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    There's been some of this for sure...but they've also called Paul on a lot of bs fouls when he's "bodying" his man on the perimeter. Idk if it's the refs in preseason form or if it's a new emphasis, but they're calling A LOT of touch fouls on our perimeter players with Paul receiving the brunt of it.
    Well, I guess, but from what coach vnzla is saying it must be that PG never has to body up his man, it is those defensive liabilities DG and Lance who force him from his elite defense into the coarseness of having to *gasp* touch someone with his body.

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