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    Default NBA 2013-2014 Trade Deadline / Rumor Thread - Deadline is this Thursday 2/20

    I'm bored and didn't see one of these threads....so I figure I can start one up.

    So far....this year...it's been rather quiet on the trade deadline front. I figure...or rather hope....that this year will be somewhat more interesting when it comes to possible Player movement.

    NOTE - Try to post trade rumors and PLEASE try to limit Trade Proposals for Players that you know that we can't get to the other PD Trade Forum......I'm looking at you, Grimp

    There isn't much to discuss so far....so I will just start off with some trade Rumors:

    http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/...aft_picks.html

    NEW ORLEANS - The 76ers' focus in the days leading up to Thursday's NBA trade deadline is acquiring draft picks, according to an Eastern Conference executive.

    The franchise wants to gain future compensation in exchange for Evan Turner, Spencer Hawes, and Thaddeus Young, said the source, who spoke on condition of anonymity. With the most cap space in the league and an open roster spot, the Sixers will consider acquiring an expiring contract from a team looking to dump a salary. But that most likely will also involve receiving a draft pick.

    As a result, the 76ers are believed to be the most active team in trade talks leading up to the deadline.
    The Sixers have had discussions with all 29 other NBA franchises.

    They are unlikely to make a move until the final hours before the deadline, but there's also a chance the Sixers won't make any moves.

    They are reportedly interested in getting first-rounders, preferably lottery picks. That could be a holdup.

    Turner and Hawes are in the final seasons of their contracts. Young has another season left followed by a player option in 2015-16.

    If the Sixers won't budge on their demands, the Charlotte Bobcats could be one of the few potential destinations for Turner.

    The swingman is scheduled to become a restricted free agent this summer. He would, however, become unrestricted if the Sixers don't extend the $8.7 million qualifying offer he's in line to receive. There's a thought most franchises will shy away from him if he becomes an unrestricted free agent.

    Turner is represented by David Falk, who demands big money for his clients. Teams realize they won't be able to re-sign the fourth-year veteran unless they overspend.

    That's why Charlotte makes the most sense.

    It is clinging to the Eastern Conference's eighth playoff spot and has strong interest in Turner. The Bobcats can offer the first-round pick they received from the Detroit Pistons if they're serious about making a postseason push.

    The San Antonio Spurs reportedly could be another potential landing spot for Turner.

    The Phoenix Suns were once considered potential trade partners for him. The Suns could have four first-round picks in 2014 and reportedly are willing to part with one of them.

    Of the three Sixers, Hawes is arguably the easiest to move. There's a report that the Portland Trail Blazers, among others, contacted the Sixers about him this season.

    Young's $8.6 million salary could hold up a potential deal. He's scheduled to make $9.1 million next season, while his player option for 2015-16 is for $9.7 million.

    But the Sixers don't have a sense of urgency in regard to making trades. The team has been impressed with how Turner, Hawes, and Young developed this season.

    So it will be interesting to see if they'll make moves if their trade demands are not met.
    I know that this is from a NBA Fantasy Basketball website........but it does lend some useful Trade Rumors that you can follow:

    http://www.rotoworld.com/articles/nb...eadline-update

    The deadline market is at a slow simmer right now as predictably there are more sellers than buyers and I covered much of that in the trade deadline preview, but there are certainly teams that stand out as motivated to make a move.

    At the top of the list are the Sixers, Bobcats and Suns, followed by (in no order) the Celtics, Cavs, Nuggets, Warriors, Pelicans, Knicks and Wizards.

    The Sixers are an obvious trade deadline squad as Evan Turner, Spencer Hawes and Thaddeus Young have dominated trade rumors all season long. Turner’s name has been the noisiest of the bunch lately, but it wouldn’t be all that surprising if any one of them take the lead in that regard heading into Thursday. Reading all the various reports and talking to folks I’ve seen them ordered in every which way when it comes to likelihood of being dealt.

    The rumor that has had the most substance and that makes the most sense (at this time) is one sending Turner to Charlotte for Ben Gordon’s expiring deal and a late first round pick that the Cats are getting from Portland. In my opinion, that sets the floor for talks on Turner and the Bobcats would most likely make that deal. Turner’s value will be crushed in Charlotte and in most if not all other places, and the takeaway here is that unless Charlotte finds a better deal in say, Brandon Bass, the Sixers have something to leverage against other teams that may be interested in Turner.

    Right now that list includes Phoenix as the most active deadline team that has been linked to him, and the Spurs might be the most interesting team from a reality basketball perspective. Atlanta and the Clippers have also been tied to Turner, but those are low level rumors without a lot of steam right now.

    The good news for owners of Bobcat players like Al Jefferson, Kemba Walker and Josh McRoberts is that Turner wouldn’t steal much action from them. That said, McRoberts could lose his standard league ownership. Gerald Henderson is a fringe guy in standard leagues, anyway, and he’d have a hard time staying relevant in 14-team leagues with that development.

    Phoenix and Charlotte are the clear second tier right now behind Philly when it comes to teams most likely to deal in advance of the deadline. The Suns have a very nice chip in the expiring deal of Emeka Okafor ($14.5M) that is covered mostly by insurance. That should set the stage for at least one sizable deal and along with their four first round picks in next year’s draft and plenty of young, movable contracts – owners of players like Gerald Green, P.J. Tucker and Markieff Morris should be considering what the future could look like if the Suns take back players or send one of them out. Obviously, Green is the guy that’s rolling right now that owners would like to see unfettered by deadline deals.

    Phoenix would also be one of the few places in which Turner might hold some late-round value, but that can’t really be on the minds of owners right now. He’s a sell-high, buy-low guy from whichever angle one approaches it, as the gamble lies in whether or not you think he’ll stay or go. Right now it’s looking like go.

    Thaddeus Young has also been linked to Phoenix, albeit in an understated way, and among the trio of Sixers that are in the rumor mill he’s the guy whose value isn’t immediately crushed by a move. He has been able to float mid-round value in the past as a secondary player, and assuming the Suns move one of their many hybrid 2-4s he would fit nicely in their system. Young was reportedly off the market about a week ago, but it’s impossible to put stock in that since his name continues to persist in the rumor mill.

    Spencer Hawes has stayed out of any strong, specific rumors, though he was linked to Portland and the Mavs would certainly like to get him at the right price. That’s the rub with him. The Sixers want a first rounder and in a vacuum he’s not worth it, but as a big man in the NBA somebody could decide that he’s worth a late first-rounder.

    The Suns have also resumed talks with the Lakers about Pau Gasol, in what is one of the more intriguing storylines of this year’s deadline. The Lakers would probably be willing to give him up for a late first-round pick and get out of the Gasol business altogether, knowing that he’s a complicated, expensive asset and bad fit for the Mike D’Antoni system. But Kobe Bryant is still calling the shots in L.A. and he likes Pau, and though he’s not tied to the hip he has reportedly been told that the Lakers will re-sign Gasol this summer and also add an impact free agent. The last talks with the Suns got held up because Phoenix was unwilling to part with a first rounder, but I think when push comes to shove they’ll be willing to offer their pick coming from Indiana at the end of the first round.

    I don’t think Kobe will sign off on that and I’d expect the Lakers to be targeting picks from Minnesota (top-13 protected) and Washington (top-12 protected) that would be in the middle of the pack. If the Lakers and Suns don’t find anything better out there and they can come to that middle ground, then I think Gasol is playing in Phoenix.

    Still in Phoenix, they are interested in Brandon Bass and so are the Warriors and probably a handful of other teams. The Suns have also been linked to Zach Randolph in what would be the deepest of sleeper moves at the deadline, but for now Memphis appears to be cold on the idea of moving him and Marc Gasol’s knee situation may be a bellwether of whether or not that changes. Owners shouldn’t move the needle on Z-Bo rumors at this time.

    Bass, on the other hand, is among the most likely players to be dealt at this deadline and Boston is going to be tied to a lot of activity, though I wouldn’t call them an outright lock to make big moves. Bass is, indeed, a small move in the grand scheme of things. He is making $6.5M this year and $6.9M next year with playoff experience and the ability to start in a pinch or to be a much-needed interior scorer off the bench for the Warriors. The Bobcats are in the running there as well, as they seek to make the playoffs for the second time in franchise history.
    Josh McRoberts’ owners can probably wait that rumor out given his low upside in the first place.

    Bass’ value would remain similar in Phoenix, be crushed in Golden State as well as in Charlotte. Perhaps the biggest takeaway is that the Boston frontcourt might get light, as Charlotte would probably toss in an expiring contract (Ramon Sessions?) and their late-first round pick from Portland to make a deal work. Kris Humphries’ expiring contract is also dangling on the market, and at a minimum Jared Sullinger’s value is probably as safe as it’s going to be this year. Guys like Jeff Green and Rajon Rondo have been in the rumor mill, but they’re both on the less likely side of being traded at this time. Everybody is for sale at a price, though, so don’t be surprised if Boston finds a way to make something happen. I just think their participation in this deadline is a bit overstated because of Danny Ainge’s past activity.

    The Warriors are scrambling right now internally and they’re not going to panic but along with the interest in Bass they’ll be on the lookout for blockbuster deals or deals they can participate in as a third team. They have some nice trade exceptions that can be used and they’re willing to go into the tax for an impact guy, and along those lines they’re willing to move Klay Thompson or Harrison Barnes in a big deal. I wouldn’t move the needle on either of their value at this time.

    The Cavs and Pelicans may have been at the top of this list a week ago but the firing of Chris Grant chilled things out a bit as they have a directive to make the playoffs, and the Pelicans’ fervor to make a deal isn’t matched by the assets they have. Indeed, they’d love to move Eric Gordon or Tyreke Evans, but teams aren’t breaking down any doors to get in on that action.

    There has been some talk about Anderson Varejao for Omer Asik and also talk about whether or not the Cavs are as tied to Varejao as Grant previously was, but the Rockets aren’t a great fit for Varejao nor does Asik profile well next to Tristan Thompson, either. Color me skeptical so far there, especially with Terrence Jones playing the part right now. The Cavs also gave up a first round pick to obtain Luol Deng, so he’s not going to be a part of any fire sale by any means, but the reality is that the Cavs will have a hard time signing him this summer. Consider the Cavs a wild card this week.


    Gordon was named by Gery Woelfel as somebody that the Bucks were interested in, but Basketball Insiders reported confidently that there was nothing going on there. The Bucks’ owner may be committed to Milwaukee but he sure has allowed a lot of Maloofian moves to be made, so put your tin foil hat on and start asking if he’s trying to get the team moved to Seattle. Woelfel usually has good info on the Bucks and the Insiders don’t have a track record there, so it wouldn’t surprise me if Woelfel knows something they don’t. Still, they’d have to be insane to make Gordon a priority. Moving along…

    The Cavs will pursue deals but they reportedly told Dion Waiters he wasn’t going to be traded and his minutes instantaneously went back down to his normal 20-minute range the other night. Hmm. Along with New Orleans and New York, who is in the mill as much as any team in the association, they don’t have any strong rumors right now but are simply teams to watch.

    The Nuggets and Wizards have front office connections and at a minimum they represent a buyer and a seller when it comes to backup point guard Andre Miller. Miller is out the door and along those lines Beno Udrih has been linked to both teams, with the Knicks also being tied up in a Kenneth Faried and Jordan Hamilton for Iman Shumpert and Udrih proposal (by NY). Udrih has also been linked to the Spurs and something is going to go down here, but for now Denver is cool on the idea of New York’s proposal. Faried is most certainly on the block no matter how much Denver denies it, and he’s a bit of a buy low/stash target knowing that Brian Shaw’s system could be at the root of his issues. Faried would be a great fit in New York if they can pull it off. On a random note, Shaw doesn’t sound like he’s having the greatest time in Denver and it’s possible the reason he couldn’t get a head coaching job for years is playing itself out.

    Austin Rivers has also been put out there as a strong candidate to be traded, but he has no real fantasy value and owners can watch that action from the wire.

    The Magic might have been on this hot list a few weeks ago, and maybe they’re simply slowplaying their hand all the way down to the wire, but they’ve been about as stone-faced and ambivalent about the deadline as a team with that many tradable assets could be. Arron Afflalo is the big draw here but virtually everything said about him is to the effect that Orlando isn’t breaking their back to move him. Jameer Nelson has a nice contract with a minimal guarantee next season but that might be more valuable this summer, and nobody is breaking down their door for Glen Davis. Still, that may end up being the reason that Big Baby is the most likely of the bunch to find a new home -- he'll come cheap. Tobias Harris hasn’t performed to owners’ expectations this year but he’s a guy I’d target knowing he’s probably not going anywhere and only stands to gain by this deadline.

    The Pistons have also been among the top teams in the rumor mill because of Greg Monroe, but over the past few days they have signaled to reporters that they’re not necessarily opposed to matching a max offer, which he is likely to get this summer. The basic gist of it is that they’re not as strapped cap-wise if they do that as it might appear on the outset, and the Pistons feel he is a movable asset down the road as a max contract. Still, that avoids the question of whether or not Monroe, Josh Smith and Andre Drummond fit together and it’s more a sign that Detroit isn't getting any great offers right now. I’d call this one too close to call at this time.

    SLEEPER TEAMS AND SLEEPER PLAYERS

    The Hawks are rumored to be unhappy with the way things look at point guard with Jeff Teague and it would be interesting to see if they could find a way to move him. Nothing is imminent, though.

    The Clippers are itchy to make a deal and they want to get rid of ice-cold Jared Dudley, but they have the look of opportunists right now. If the market gives them an opening, look for them to shoot the gap and take it.

    The Wolves want to improve in order to keep Kevin Love on board but they’re basically operating on the secondary market. Dante Cunningham, J.J. Barea and Alexey Shved are available but nobody’s buying tickets to that show.

    The Blazers need a backup big but they don’t have very much to work with trade-wise. C.J. McCollum would need to be included for any headline-making deal, and though some of the locals didn’t like it I still think they could look at Chris Kaman as a 10-15 mpg guy alternating with Meyers Leonard. At $3.2M expiring this season I can’t see the downside.

    The Kings want to move all of their bad assets and Jimmer Fredette’s big night probably helped a little, but they’re going to focus on getting Isaiah Thomas’ backup and the local papers will probably make a big deal about it. Make no mistake, outside of an unknown blockbuster deal he’s safe. I’ve found it sad to see reputable national analysts getting caught up hedging their bets by saying Thomas has struggled on defense at times. He has small, correctable issues and sneaky ability to shut guys down. Rarely do opponents go at him in isolation and there is a reason why. A few rounds of tape would keep them from relying on some of the unfortunate local reports that have driven the discussion there, but in fairness, it’s a heavy lift to cover every team in detail. You’ve got to pick and choose who you believe out there because you can’t watch every game.

    The Spurs and Thunder are the most likely of the contenders to make a move. OKC is looking for a wing and they have a first rounder they can deal, but they don’t have anybody that they like at this time. The Spurs can send out about $8 million in contracts to pick up a player that they like (Turner?), though they’re not typically active at the deadline.

    The Jazz have about a million expiring deals including Richard Jefferson, Andris Biedrins, Marvin Williams and Brandon Rush. Williams is Ty Corbin’s favorite player and most attractive trade asset, so it’ll be interesting to see what happens there. Derrick Favors’ hip injury is in focus right now and Enes Kanter is a fine buy low target, though Corbin probably wants nothing to do with the twin tower look if he has any say over it. He might not have any say, though.

    As mentioned before, Zach Randolph probably sticks in Memphis but he would look good as a one-year rental if you’re Dallas trying to take advantage of Dirk’s window. But that’s a deal that may get figured out after they determine what they can get for Shawn Marion’s expiring deal, and to date there has been absolutely no smoke on that. It doesn’t help that Marion has been down lately after a shoulder injury.

    There’s much more out there than that, but that is a starting point for discussion this week. Again, follow our player news page and follow me on Twitter as we zero in on potential winners and losers as the smoke clears and the mud slowly falls off the wall.
    Again...I know that this is a NBA Fantasy site....but some useful information to gleem from this. I agree that most of it really seems like 2nd to 3rd hand rumors....but honestly....it's hard to find anything.

    Just my guess....but I think that there will be a Starter being moved from some Team to another along with some minor moves made. Players lke Pau Gasol wasn't mentioned above....but I totally see the Suns and Lakers making a deal only because it makes WAY TOO much sense for them not to ( maybe Lakers asking for multiple 1st round draft picks in return and the Suns are balking? ).

    Either way.....there are a lot of Teams that have some interest in making a move before the trade deadline:

    ( A ) too many assets ( Expiring Contracts, WAYY TOO MANY 2014-2015 Draft Picks...see Phoenix and Bobcats ) and are looking to improve
    ( B ) an expressed desire to get over the Playoff Bubble hump ( such as the Bobcats ) and make the necessary moves to get there
    ( C ) have gone into "TANK" mode and are looking to dump assets to get draft picks ( see Philly and Boston )
    ( D ) Teams that may be looking to dump long-term contracts for the future Salary Cap flexibility ( IMHO....teams like Memphis and obviously the Knicks ).
    ( E ) Playoff Level Teams that are looking for those minor Role Players that can help fill a need for a deep Playoff push ( like OKC or Clips )


    that I think could result in some trades going through in the near future.

    Any other Rumors that you can find? Please post here....cuz I am seriously bored.
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    Sixers have held trade discussions with the whole NBA!

    http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap...In-Trade-Talks



    So the list includes Indiana, as they've apparently talked to all 29 teams. What, if anything do the Sixers have talent wise that we'd want? I'd guess Wroten or Young? Turner is a bust imo.

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    Sixers have held trade discussions with the whole NBA!

    http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap...In-Trade-Talks



    So the list includes Indiana, as they've apparently talked to all 29 teams. What, if anything do the Sixers have talent wise that we'd want? I'd guess Wroten or Young? Turner is a bust imo.
    Are either Wroten/Young expiring? If they're not, I dont want them.

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    Are either Wroten/Young expiring? If they're not, I dont want them.
    Nope. Spencer Hawes is though. But he's no good.

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    Nope. Spencer Hawes is though. But he's no good.
    No need for Hawes. I can't see us making any moves. I think there will be plenty of moves with other teams though. Evan Turner to the Knicks for Shumpert and maybe an expiring? Seems like an interesting deal

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    No need for Hawes. I can't see us making any moves. I think there will be plenty of moves with other teams though. Evan Turner to the Knicks for Shumpert and maybe an expiring? Seems like an interesting deal
    I disagree. WE NEED A SHOOTER off the bench. I still hope we get Gary Neal or Deng. Neal I remember in the Finals last year lit Miami up off the bench. We could get him from Milwaukee without even moving Granger, considering he's disgruntled in that current situation.

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    Here's what Ken Berger is reporting.

    Trade talk at All-Star weekend has been "as slow as it's been in a long time," said one executive who has not received a single phone call. A lot of teams have made it known which players they are open to moving, but the problem is finding trade partners. Very few teams are willing to part with premium draft picks or take on future salary, which are the two key drivers for trades.
    http://www.cbssports.com/nba/writer/...dge-for-caring

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    Gary Neal sucks. Guy had one big game and people think he's good now.

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    I disagree. WE NEED A SHOOTER off the bench. I still hope we get Gary Neal or Deng. Neal I remember in the Finals last year lit Miami up off the bench. We could get him from Milwaukee without even moving Granger, considering he's disgruntled in that current situation.
    I know you believe we will make a trade, but I just don't see any logical way we we would add an impact player to this roster but still be able to re-sign Lance in the off season. It's just that difficult of a situation.

    Whether we have glaring needs or not (which is tough to say about a team that in spite of its recent struggles--still has the second best record in the league) there are few trades that make true, logical sense for us

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    I disagree. WE NEED A SHOOTER off the bench. I still hope we get Gary Neal or Deng. Neal I remember in the Finals last year lit Miami up off the bench. We could get him from Milwaukee without even moving Granger, considering he's disgruntled in that current situation.
    Granger is a good shooter, I know he's inconsistent now, but he is coming back off of missing nearly 2 years since his last NBA game, and he is a notoriously slow starter even when healthy. Watson can shoot the 3, and Butler on the bench has shown the ability to shoot the three

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    Here's what Ken Berger is reporting.


    http://www.cbssports.com/nba/writer/...dge-for-caring
    Really? I thought everyone was saying this was going to be a big deadline in terms of moves made

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    I know you believe we will make a trade, but I just don't see any logical way we we would add an impact player to this roster but still be able to re-sign Lance in the off season. It's just that difficult of a situation.

    Whether we have glaring needs or not (which is tough to say about a team that in spite of its recent struggles--still has the second best record in the league) there are few trades that make true, logical sense for us



    We could trade our expiring for another expiring. Or some of our other pieces. If not, I hope they start playing Copeland. If not, trade him for someone you will play. And send Ian with him. Then again, Larry also said he's not worried about next year. So this leads me to believe he would bring in someone with possibly 1 year left on their deal. Also I read over at Real Gm that the way to re-sign Lance would be to pay him the most contract year money in 2016, when chunks of salary falls off our books. That would be not front loading the contract.

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    We could trade our expiring for another expiring. Or some of our other pieces. If not, I hope they start playing Copeland. If not, trade him for someone you will play. And send Ian with him. Then again, Larry also said he's not worried about next year. So this leads me to believe he would bring in someone with possibly 1 year left on their deal. Also I read over at Real Gm that the way to re-sign Lance would be to pay him the most contract year money in 2016, when chunks of salary falls off our books. That would be not front loading the contract.
    What player would be worth bringing in this season that isn't an expiring, that would basically make it impossible for us to keep Lance?

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    What player would be worth bringing in this season that isn't an expiring, that would basically make it impossible for us to keep Lance?

    Well there are a lot of guard/forwards who're expirings. Stuckey (Detroit), CJ Miles (Cleveland), Deng (Cleveland), Meeks (LA Lakers). The one year left guys are Thornton (Sac), Nick Young (Lakers), Neal (Milwaukee), Afflalo (Orlando). If I were taking Nick from LA Lakers, I'd ask for Gasol too, he's an expiring. I wonder if the Clippers would do a Copeland + Mahinmi for Crawford deal? Clippers don't really have a back up center. Ryan Hollins and Byron Mullens? I think Ian MIGHT.....MIGHT be just a tad bit better than those guys. Plus with Reddick, Crawford is expendable kind of. Copeland would give them the same amount of shooting, except at a different position. In a move like that, we'd have to take back Jamison.
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    Gary Neal sucks. Guy had one big game and people think he's good now.
    Agree! He had his Austin Croshere vs. Lakers series.

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    I'd say the ONLY possibility is for a designated 3PT shooter. So, who are exceptional 3PT shooters on the last year of their contract ??

    The Jimmer.

    As far as the Pacers are concerned, that would be the only one they might pursue. Everything else is pretty much covered.

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    I'd say the ONLY possibility is for a designated 3PT shooter. So, who are exceptional 3PT shooters on the last year of their contract ??

    The Jimmer.

    As far as the Pacers are concerned, that would be the only one they might pursue. Everything else is pretty much covered.


    I like Jimmer's ability to shoot. But.....I watched the Knicks game prior to AS break. He's a one-handed dribbler. Doesn't seem to have much handle for a PG. I don't know about him because of that. I prefer CJ Miles, who's also on the last year of his deal. Jodie Meeks has an injury, so I'd pass on him now. Jimmer can shoot though, but the one-handed dribbling would kill us versus Miami. Also, Jimmer is a PG. That means Watson is gone. Or benched. Neither is big enough to play SG. Unless, we do this......



    Make the Jimmer trade and play this bench......



    Scola
    Cope
    Bynum
    Granger
    Jimmer



    Meaning, we have to give Orlando, Solo, CJ, or Ian, + 2nd rounder to Sac. BUT.....Sac did originally draft Orlando, and we traded for him. Maybe they'd want him back?
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    I'd say the ONLY possibility is for a designated 3PT shooter. So, who are exceptional 3PT shooters on the last year of their contract ??

    The Jimmer.

    As far as the Pacers are concerned, that would be the only one they might pursue. Everything else is pretty much covered.
    But even if we trade for a shooter, you have to wonder if Vogel would play him.

    Anyone know who the Pacers top three 3 point shooters (by percentage) are? I'll tell you:

    1) Butler .519
    2) Hibbert .400
    3) Copeland .382

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    But even if we trade for a shooter, you have to wonder if Vogel would play him.

    Anyone know who the Pacers top three 3 point shooters (by percentage) are? I'll tell you:

    1) Butler .519
    2) Hibbert .400
    3) Copeland .382

    Vogel would play him if he's backing up Lance. Lance has no backup. In a scenario where Jimmer comes over, Granger has to be moved to backup 2 guard. I think he could handle it, he guarded Blake Griffin vs the Clippers a few weeks ago rather well. I don't imagine he'd get torched by too many back up 2 guards.

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    I honestly don't know why Butler doesn't play more spot minutes...dude is shooting well right now.
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    I personally don't want us to make a trade. We already added Bynum so we don't need a big. We have plenty of wings. Instead of trading for a shooter I would just play butler or Copeland more.

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    If we traded for Jimmer, he would be behind Watson, not the other way around

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    I personally don't want us to make a trade. We already added Bynum so we don't need a big. We have plenty of wings. Instead of trading for a shooter I would just play butler or Copeland more.
    I agree, we already have talented players that could fill any need for the bench but they can't get on the floor. Granger could also pick up more minutes but Frank doesn't seem to want to budge from the predetermined rotation. I hope Bynum can get a chance to contribute but I'm a little worried that he won't get the touches when he's on the floor any more then Roy is. If we want to get more from the bench or from the post it's there for us, the last thing we need is a trade.

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    Vogel would play him if he's backing up Lance. Lance has no backup. In a scenario where Jimmer comes over, Granger has to be moved to backup 2 guard. I think he could handle it, he guarded Blake Griffin vs the Clippers a few weeks ago rather well. I don't imagine he'd get torched by too many back up 2 guards.
    What does guarding Blake Griffin have to do with guarding 2 guards????????????????????

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    Vogel would play him if he's backing up Lance. Lance has no backup. In a scenario where Jimmer comes over, Granger has to be moved to backup 2 guard. I think he could handle it, he guarded Blake Griffin vs the Clippers a few weeks ago rather well. I don't imagine he'd get torched by too many back up 2 guards.
    I dont understand why trade for Freddete and give him the back-up 2 minutes? Why not just give more minutes to Granger?

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