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    http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/stor...nce-frank-loss

    Kidd's rant filled with expletives



    Brooklyn Nets coach Jason Kidd reportedly used a 13-letter word in an expletive-filled rant against assistant Lawrence Frank following the team's loss in Orlando on Nov. 3, NBA.com reported Monday.

    "Sit the (expletive) down! I'm the coach of this (13-letter word) team! When you're on the bench, don't (expletive) move," Kidd said, according to NBA.com reporter David Aldridge. The report did not offer further details of what the 13-letter word was.

    The argument ultimately led to Frank being reassigned to a reduced role which Kidd described as "to doing daily reports."

    Frank was told at one point by somebody in the organization to curb his behavior on the bench during games and not be as active and demonstrative as he was earlier in the season, sources told ESPNNewYork.com. The week before he learned he would not be helping run practices or sit on the bench during games, it was definitely noticeable that Frank wasn't doing as much.

    According to the NBA.com report, other coaches facing the Nets thought Frank was ill since he was being so quiet.

    "You know, I don't know," small forward Paul Piercesaid Monday when asked why things with Frank didn't work out. "That's something for the coaching staff, I think. He worked hard, he did the things that they asked him to do that I thought were on the court. But obviously some behind-the-scenes things that probably went down that didn't go well with the coaches and that's why the decision was made."

    Frank signed a six-year contract worth approximately $6 million, according to sources, to be Kidd's mentor, the team's defensive coordinator and help ease Kidd into his new head coaching role. Multiple reports say he has hired attorneys and will eventually seek a buyout.
    Why is he not fired after all we've learned to this point? What a disaster.

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    He's giving Isiah Thomas a run for his money with all of the politics.

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    13 letter expletive?

    Is it Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious?

    Honestly, I can think of only one...but it's 12 letters long...not 13.



    As for this inner-turmoil for the Nets....all I can say is what I have been saying since the Nets have begun to implode:



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    He's giving Isiah Thomas a run for his money with all of the politics.
    Jason Kidd makes Isiah Thomas look like John Wooden
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    Zeke to my knowledge never scapegoated his assistants. His players, sure....

    It wasn't about being the team everyone loved, it was about beating the teams everyone else loved.

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    Derrick Williams with a career high 31
    Yes, he was fantastic I was going to mentiopn him last night, but fell asleep. The Kings looked great last night. I have been watching the Kings a lot over the past few years they never share the ball like they did last night it was beautiful. All of his shots were easy looks at the basket or 3pt range.

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    And Jason Kidd never froze-out Michael Jordan at an All-Star game or staged a walk-off following a playoff loss, or made promises to owners of the CBA that disappeared when he received a head coaching offer.

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    And Jason Kidd never froze-out Michael Jordan at an All-Star game or staged a walk-off following a playoff loss, or made promises to owners of the CBA that disappeared when he received a head coaching offer.
    I thought this was about which was a better coach?

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    No, I have no idea what Kidd is trying to do as a coach. I don't know anything about his philosophies or player/game management. His relationships with assistants have to be worse than IT's.

    But politically he's giving IT a go.

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    And Jason Kidd never froze-out Michael Jordan at an All-Star game or staged a walk-off following a playoff loss, or made promises to owners of the CBA that disappeared when he received a head coaching offer.
    The CBA was killed off by the NBDL. Zeke was just at the helm when it happened. Not going to blame him for finding a safety net.

    It wasn't about being the team everyone loved, it was about beating the teams everyone else loved.

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    http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-...clears-waivers

    Report: D.J. Augustin likely to sign with Bulls after clearing waivers

    By Zach Harper | NBA writer


    After the Toronto Raptors traded Rudy Gay and two other players to the Sacramento Kings for Greivis Vasquez, Patrick Patterson, Chuck Hayes and John Salmons, they had 16 players under contract and had to release someone. Even though Julyan Stone's deal wasn't guaranteed, they opted to waive D.J. Augustin. Augustin was shooting just 29.2 percent from the field in 10 games for Toronto.
    Adrian Wojnarowski of Yahoo Sports is reporting that the Chicago Bulls will be the frontrunners to sign Augustin when he clears waivers on Wednesday.

    The Chicago Bulls are strong frontrunners to sign point guard& D.J. Augustin, league sources told Yahoo Sports.
    Augustin, who was waived by the Toronto Raptors on Monday, will clear waivers at 5 p.m. ET Wednesday and become a free agent.
    The Bulls lost superstar point guard Derrick Rose for the season, and have been searching for further depth at the position with backup guard Mike James working his way back from a sprained knee. Shooting guard Jimmy Butler has been recovering from a foot injury and could return in the near future.

    The Bulls are currently going with a three-point guard trio of Kirk Hinrich, Marquis Teagueand James right now. Signing Augustin would presumably make him the backup over Teague and James. Augustin was the ninth pick for the Charlotte Bobcats in the 2008 NBA Draft but has struggled to find good scoring opportunities since his rookie season. He's a career 40-percent shooter from the field and 36.8 percent from 3-point range.
    Chicago has been trying to piece together an attack since the latest Rose injury that knocked him out for the rest of the 2013-14 season.

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    The perfect trifecta...

    Pacers Win

    Heat Lose

    Pistons get blown out

    and the Icing on the Cake: The Pacers were the ones to beat the Heat.

    What a night...doesnt get much better than this.

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    Love what the Suns are doing. They traded vets who blocked key young players. Great work by their young kids this season. I have always said that is what I believe in. When building a team as a lottery level team you need to let your young kids play and see what you have. (and everyone around here accused me of wanting to tank, when I wanted the Pacers to do this ) (We finally did do this after JOB was gone)

    I really like these key terms from this espn article.... http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/story...nk-won-lottery
    KEY
    Tanking: The team's front office has deliberately weakened the team in an attempt to lose as many games as possible.

    Tank-building: The space that lies somewhere between the ideas of tanking and rebuilding.

    Rebuilding: The team's front office didn't go out of its way to sign or trade for quality players this summer, but it was less an attempt to lose games than it was an opportunity to give young players already on the roster a chance to prove themselves.

    Trying: The team's front office went out of its way over the summer to strengthen the roster in an attempt to make the playoffs. The team just isn't very good.
    I am a firm believer in the rebuilding method

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    A good bounce back game for Kobe. 20pts in 29mins. Not bad for his 2nd game.

    Really happy for the Suns this season. The Morris brothers are really doing great off the bench. I don't see them going deep in the playoffs this season but I hope they do get in. Agree with you p4e their rebuilding phase is much quicker than everybody else and should be a good example for the other slumping teams.

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    That's what I was thinking of....forgot about the -ing.
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    Golden State is bringing up forward Hilton Armstrong out of Santa Cruz of the D-League, sources tell Yahoo Sports.

    I wish we had kept him.
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    Any one see Irving abuse Prigioni? He literally lost him on one play

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    Thinking about all the injuries and rehabs and things people go through, this was probably one of my favorite moments in the NBA, non-Pacer wise, Bernard King owning the Knicks in MSG and getting an ovation.



    This was his injury, actually a NSFW warning right on the live feed, you can hear him yell, OH ****, OH GOD, when he goes up, I do find it funny that the Knicks commentator is assured that he sprained his ankle lol when he's writhing in pain holding his knee.

    "It's just unfortunate that we've been penalized so much this year and nothing has happened to the Pistons, the Palace or the city of Detroit," he said. "It's almost like it's always our fault. The league knows it. They should be ashamed of themselves to let the security be as lax as it is around here."

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    The perfect trifecta...

    Pacers Win

    Heat Lose

    Pistons get blown out

    and the Icing on the Cake: The Pacers were the ones to beat the Heat.

    What a night...doesnt get much better than this.
    The perfect night would be:

    Pacers beating the Heat
    Thunder, Spurs and Blazers all losing

    NOTE - The above scenario would ensure that the Pacers gain more ground on the Heat and the rest of the Top Teams in the League.

    My icing on the cake would be LeDecision, Wade and TagAlong all getting a severe groin injury in the same game while trying to defend PG24, Lance and Hibbert.
    Ash from Army of Darkness: Good...Bad...I'm the guy with the gun.

    This is David West, he is the Honey Badger, West just doesn't give a *****....he's pretty bad *ss cuz he has no regard for any other Player or Team whatsoever.

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    It's official.

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    found this in ESPN's article about defense


    The list of the NBA's top three-man defensive units so far this season are largely Pacers, as we'll discuss. At the time of this writing, nine of the top 25 are from Indiana, in fact. Which means players on 29 rosters are competing for the 16 remaining spots.
    The other Pacers
    We know Roy Hibbert is really good at defense. We know his Pacers have been one of the best defenses ever thus far. When Kevin Pelton (Insider) wrote about this the other day, he pointed out that the Pacers were giving up fewer than 94 points per 100 possessions in a league that averages 106. No other team is close. So the Pacers are killing it.

    And as I just dug through NBA.com/stats looking at player combinations, there's no arguing Hibbert is the dominant reason. In fact, if you take every two-player combination in the league, from every team, the best combination out of all of those thousands, in terms of holding opponents to the fewest points per possession, is the Pacers' Roy Hibbert and David West.

    In and of itself, that does not prove they are the two best defenders. Far from it. But it would be just about impossible for them to be so high on the list while being lousy at defense. And that they belong there is affirmed by this: The second best combination out of the whole league? Hibbert and Paul George. Fourth best is Hibbert and George Hill. Amazingly, Pacers account for nine of the league's dozen most effective two-player defensive combinations, and Hibbert is part of most of 'em.

    Just as it's impossible to argue Hibbert is anything but great on defense, it's also impossible to argue that he's the only reason the Pacers are good. The Pacers' center is only playing 30 minutes a game, and the Pacers are good on defense all night.

    This is not a question of the starting five carrying everybody. None of the Pacers' five-man lineups, in fact, are in the league's 10 most effective defensively. It really is a team effort.

    When Hibbert is on the bench, the Pacers give up 98.7 points per 100 possessions, which would still be a top-10 NBA defense.

    Of course, George, who has been discussed as a candidate as both MVP and a first-team all-NBA defense, is a big part of that. Even though he's the epicenter of the Pacers' offense -- in a role where many players would catch their breath on defense -- George expends serious energy guarding some of the league's finest scorers. Despite those challenges, he's still a mainstay among the Pacers' best defensive combinations. When George sits, opponents score a little better than when Hibbert sits.

    But you know who else has been on the floor for long minutes of great defense for the Pacers? Almost everybody. David West, C.J. Watson, George Hill, Orlando Johnson, Lance Stephenson,Luis Scola -- these are not the Pacers' most famous defenders. I have named eight Pacers in this article. Put any three of those players together on the court, and Pacers are playing good defense.

    When any or all of them are on the court, the Pacers as a team average better defensive performance than the Spurs, who are the league's second-best defensive team.

    It's almost impossible to find any combination of Pacers players that is bad on defense. It's amazing. (3-point specialist Chris Copeland might be the one exception. He has not been great on defense, the statistics say, but he is also new to the team and has averaged less than four minutes a game, so it's hard to know what the future holds for him.)

    Clearly, coach Frank Vogel knows something.

    http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/64486/surprisingly-productive-defenders



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    Brad Stevens is a miracle worker. I am perplexed. Did some alien trade places with Jordan Crawford? He looks like a different player this year. He is becoming a pass first player really odd. I really love how he is playing.

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    It's official.
    Cool...we now have another PG on the Bulls to abuse.
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    This is David West, he is the Honey Badger, West just doesn't give a *****....he's pretty bad *ss cuz he has no regard for any other Player or Team whatsoever.

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    So the Bulls are going to lose for awhile, when you are relying on Dunleavy and Boozer as your main offense.

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