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    Yea, I'm starting this early.... no, I'm not looking past SD............ Alright, I totally am. But I'm a fan, I'm allowed to do silly crap like that. And frankly, Peyton is worth jumping the gun on the pre-game thread a week early.

    Let's face it --- the biggest symbolic game of the year, arguably league-wide, is Peyton Manning returning to Indianapolis to play against the Colts in front of a fan-base he largely built. Manning vs. Luck. This ***** is happening. In less than two weeks. Do I even need to explain how huge this game will be?

    I'm am sooooooo looking forward to this game.

    I think this game means a lot more for Manning than it does Luck. I can't wait to hear the introduction for Manning and the crowd give him a 5 minute standing O. And I hope (actually... I'm pretty confident that I know) that Luck won't take it badly. I'm guessing Manning is gonna "kick our ***" like he said he'd do to us in '98 if we had passed on him (thank God we didn't).

    I'll be rooting for the Colts and Luck, and I want a win... but I won't be pissed if Manning comes in and gets one. He's the only person in the league I'd say that about. This could be the last time we see Manning in LOS, an opportunity that we never really had a chance to do properly.



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    Should be a great game. I would love to win this one and I would ESPECIALLY love to knock Peyton out of the playoffs, but if we don't I'll root for him when/if the Colts are eliminated.

    I am somewhat more critical of Peyton than the average Colts fan but he is still one of the GOATs, and regardless of how good Luck does I'll always hold him in especially high regard because the team might not even be in Indianapolis today without him. Without Peyton we may not be able to enjoy what I think will be the great success Luck brings to the franchise (I have long predicted 2 SB's when it is all said and done).

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    It's going to be one of the most watched regular season games in NFL history. This game will obviously be a major local story, but it's also going to be huge nationally. People all over the country are going to be eager to watch this.

    I'll be curious to see if Peyton allows the emotion to get to him at all in the days leading up to the game, or if he will just give the standard "it's just another game, I'm just focusing on preparing for that defense", etc etc. Wonder if he'll do any interviews for The Star or TV stations?

    Also, do you think that we'll do a tribute to him before the game or in between quarters? I hope they show it on NBC.

    This will be intense. He is a legend and will always be a Colt. He is the main reason we became an elite NFL franchise, and that Super Bowl banner hangs forever.

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    If Peyton can handle playing against his younger brother the Colts are nothing to him in comparison.

    That being said I could see this being a very close game either way the Denver defense doesn't scare me I'm not sure how our defense will fare with Denver's offense.

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    If Peyton can handle playing against his younger brother the Colts are nothing to him in comparison.

    That being said I could see this being a very close game either way the Denver defense doesn't scare me I'm not sure how our defense will fare with Denver's offense.

    When his brother was drafted into the NFL, he knew that he would inevitably play him a couple times. But this is way different. Until just a short time ago, he never thought that he would play anywhere other than the Colts, let alone come in as an opponent a short time after being released.

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    When his brother was drafted into the NFL, he knew that he would inevitably play him a couple times. But this is way different. Until just a short time ago, he never thought that he would play anywhere other than the Colts, let alone come in as an opponent a short time after being released.

    And I'm sure he knew he'd play the Colts at some point after he was dumped by them over a year ago. My point is that I think people overestimate the emotional attachment between players and the teams they play for.


    There are exceptions I guess Elway/Broncos and Marino/Dolphins but they stayed their entire careers there.

    Peyton is just one of many players who ended up playing for more than one team during their career. The Colts are just another team to him that he has to beat on the schedule sure they'll go through memory lane and play up that he was kicked to the curb for someone younger and wants revenge (the narrative is the best part) but he's a professional athlete and this game is a part of his job.

    I don't think he thinks of the Colts anymore than the Colts do of him.

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    And I'm sure he knew he'd play the Colts at some point after he was dumped by them over a year ago. My point is that I think people overestimate the emotional attachment between players and the teams they play for.


    There are exceptions I guess Elway/Broncos and Marino/Dolphins but they stayed their entire careers there.

    Peyton is just one of many players who ended up playing for more than one team during their career. The Colts are just another team to him that he has to beat on the schedule sure they'll go through memory lane and play up that he was kicked to the curb for someone younger and wants revenge (the narrative is the best part) but he's a professional athlete and this game is a part of his job.

    I don't think he thinks of the Colts anymore than the Colts do of him.
    Baloney.

    He's used to running out of the tunnel at Lucas Oil with 67,000 fans standing and going crazy for him (and his teammates). That Sunday night, he'll be running out of the tunnel for the first time as the opposition and the 67,000 (or at least the vast majority in my opinion) will be clapping for Peyton as a sign of love and respect and thanking him for everything he did for the Colts.

    And then after the opening kick, Peyton is going to want to drop the hammer on the Colts like the Broncos have on each of their opponents thus far. And likewise, Colts fans will be hoping for a sack, a pick, or an incompletion on every Peyton dropback.

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    Baloney.

    He's used to running out of the tunnel at Lucas Oil with 67,000 fans standing and going crazy for him (and his teammates). That Sunday night, he'll be running out of the tunnel for the first time as the opposition and the 67,000 (or at least the vast majority in my opinion) will be clapping for Peyton as a sign of love and respect and thanking him for everything he did for the Colts.

    And then after the opening kick, Peyton is going to want to drop the hammer on the Colts like the Broncos have on each of their opponents thus far. And likewise, Colts fans will be hoping for a sack, a pick, or an incompletion on every Peyton dropback.


    The last sentence I agree with the rest? Eh

    He of all people knows its a business I mean his dad went through the same thing himself with the Saints. He moved on as soon as we secured Andrew Luck and not a moment sooner. Fans moved on sooner than that wearing Luck jerseys before it was even possible we were going to get him and that dumping Manning was the way to go etc to say otherwise is just false. If there's someone better on the horizon fans move on I mean look how quickly the Packers forgot about Favre with Rodgers, Montana with Young etc. And here most people have already moved on from Peyton and if you said this 3 years ago this would've been laughed at.

    Colts fans who think he's going to be all warm and fuzzy with the fans before kickoff are overestimating themselves here he'll acknowledge it and keep it moving ala Andy Reid. Its going to be no different than McNabb/Eagles, Montana/Niners etc sure the media will make it into some emotional moment but the players are immune to that sort of thing.

    Regardless of the outcome I will be glad when this game is over.
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    Baloney.

    He's used to running out of the tunnel at Lucas Oil with 67,000 fans standing and going crazy for him (and his teammates). That Sunday night, he'll be running out of the tunnel for the first time as the opposition and the 67,000 (or at least the vast majority in my opinion) will be clapping for Peyton as a sign of love and respect and thanking him for everything he did for the Colts.

    And then after the opening kick, Peyton is going to want to drop the hammer on the Colts like the Broncos have on each of their opponents thus far. And likewise, Colts fans will be hoping for a sack, a pick, or an incompletion on every Peyton dropback.
    You forgot fumble.

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    I just got tickets from a friend! I cant wait to go!
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    I dunno, I think this is much bigger for Peyton than playing against his brother, at least emotionally. I mean... we've only seen Manning near-cry once in his lifetime --- saying goodbye to Indianapolis. He will say all the right things leading up to the game, but you know he's had this day marked on his internal calendar since the day the schedule came out this year. It *has* to be on his mind, and will only grow in the days leading up. His return to Indy will be a huge event, for him and the city.
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    I dunno, I think this is much bigger for Peyton than playing against his brother, at least emotionally. I mean... we've only seen Manning near-cry once in his lifetime --- saying goodbye to Indianapolis. He will say all the right things leading up to the game, but you know he's had this day marked on his internal calendar since the day the schedule came out this year. It *has* to be on his mind, and will only grow in the days leading up. His return to Indy will be a huge event, for him and the city.

    I don't the Colts were a chapter in his life that he left behind (with occassional visits to the Children's hospital really the only link he has to Indy anymore), he was sad to leave Tennessee too but he did it anyways no real difference except the Colts exit was more dramatic.

    Eli his his blood and when both their careers are over it will be just them.


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    Peyton will want to crush the Colts because he plays no other way. He's the type of guy that will reflect on fond memories after he retires. I'm hoping Luck and the crew turn the table and run the Peyton Broncos out of town.
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    Of course Eli means more to him as family, but I don't think he was as *emotional* playing Eli as he will be playing in LOS. It's a completely different circumstance.
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    Of course Eli means more to him as family, but I don't think he was as *emotional* playing Eli as he will be playing in LOS. It's a completely different circumstance.
    I just don't see him emotional about this game. He's pretty robotic when it comes to this sort of thing its only when he plays the Giants does he feel kind of bad for winning afterwards...

    He won't feel bad if they Broncos win.

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    Peyton in a night game returning to the stadium he built vs. Luck who never shrinks from a chance to be great.

    Should be an amazing atmosphere and game.

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    There is no way playing Eli is more emotional than this.

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    Eh, I disagree. Manning and Indy are inexorably tied together, this city loves him, and from all accounts, he loved it here. On the surface, in the interviews, he's going to say one thing, but on the inside, he's human just like all of us. I'm sure the fans will be emotional that night too.
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    People are saying now he has gas left in the tank but where was this talk when he was out for the season a couple years ago many thought he wouldn't play again if we knew he was going to play again and be like this then why did the Colts cut him?

    Irsay must have crappy doctors or he wanted to go with younger cheaper version of Manning in Andrew Luck. I'm leaning towards the latter as time passes after all he has to think of the Colts beyond the Manning era

    Regardless Montana lead the Chiefs to the AFC Championship it was unfortunate he got injured in that game and pretty much ended his career at that point for good so he had something left now obviously it wasn't his best years but they weren't crappy either.

    My point is if Joe Montana an icon of 49ers Lore can be kicked to the curb after all he's done then Manning was no different when it came down to it or anyone else.

    There's no real loyalty in professional sports or anywhere else if something better comes along.

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    People are saying now he has gas left in the tank but where was this talk when he was out for the season a couple years ago many thought he wouldn't play again if we knew he was going to play again and be like this then why did the Colts cut him?

    Irsay must have crappy doctors or he wanted to go with younger cheaper version of Manning in Andrew Luck. I'm leaning towards the latter as time passes after all he has to think of the Colts beyond the Manning era

    Regardless Montana lead the Chiefs to the AFC Championship it was unfortunate he got injured in that game and pretty much ended his career at that point for good so he had something left now obviously it wasn't his best years but they weren't crappy either.

    My point is if Joe Montana an icon of 49ers Lore can be kicked to the curb after all he's done then Manning was no different when it came down to it or anyone else.

    There's no real loyalty in professional sports or anywhere else if something better comes along.
    I think we had all these discussions and arguments about a year ago.

    Bottom line, when Peyton returns to Indy there will be tons of emotions from the fans and him. Look no further than his exit press conference with the Colts.

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    People are saying now he has gas left in the tank but where was this talk when he was out for the season a couple years ago many thought he wouldn't play again if we knew he was going to play again and be like this then why did the Colts cut him?

    Irsay must have crappy doctors or he wanted to go with younger cheaper version of Manning in Andrew Luck. I'm leaning towards the latter as time passes after all he has to think of the Colts beyond the Manning era

    Regardless Montana lead the Chiefs to the AFC Championship it was unfortunate he got injured in that game and pretty much ended his career at that point for good so he had something left now obviously it wasn't his best years but they weren't crappy either.

    My point is if Joe Montana an icon of 49ers Lore can be kicked to the curb after all he's done then Manning was no different when it came down to it or anyone else.

    There's no real loyalty in professional sports or anywhere else if something better comes along.
    Come on now, Montana's impact on SF is nothing like Manning's on Indy. A lot of it is circumstantial, the 49ers were a mediocre franchise before Montana arrived but they still had decades of history and several good seasons. The Colts were basically the laughing stock of Indianapolis when Peyton Manning arrived. The Hoosier Dome wasn't selling out, the Colts had basically no history other than a few seasons of Eric Dickerson and the AFCG run in 1995. Put it this way, the Colts had been in Indianapolis for something like 15 years when Manning arrived and they had won the division once. No one had faith in the owner. The Colts simply weren't cool and the NFL wasn't quite as hot as it is now. Believe me, I was at those games in the pre-Manning era, my grandparents were ST holders and I was the only person in our family willing to go to the games with them! The upper bowl was empty, the fans in the lower bowl were totally uninterested. I've seen more field goal battles with the Jets and Bills in the old AFC East to last a lifetime. What little interest people had in the Colts tended to dissipate as soon as pre-clas basketball HS, NCAA basketball and to a lesser extent the NBA (people were following Bird more than the Pacers, but another story for another day) started up.

    If the Colts had drafted Ryan Leaf and continued to stink through the early 2000's, with Indiana's tax averse fanbase and the growing popularity of the NFL, there is a very good chance another city would have seen the opportunity and given Irsay a sweetheart deal to get out of the aging RCA Dome and into a state of the art facility somewhere else. Indianapolis would be much closer to Columbus, Ohio than a "real" big city. " The city seems to be on the up and up, hosting big events including a Super Bowl, like it or not the city would be held in much less regard without the Colts and without Manning there may be no Colts. Take it from someone who lives somewhere else, I get a somewhat different reaction to saying I am from the Indy area now than I did 10 years ago. People will now mention "oh, the Colts" or maybe the Super Bowl or even just acknowledge the city, ten years ago they just said "where?

    Not to discount Montana or anything, the guy is definitely in the conversation for GOAT, but Manning's impact on the Colts really transcends football, and to the extent that it encompasses football, it completely changed the trajectory of the franchise. And Peyton knows all this, he's not dumb.
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    Come on now, Montana's impact on SF is nothing like Manning's on Indy. A lot of it is circumstantial, the 49ers were a mediocre franchise before Montana arrived but they still had decades of history and several good seasons. The Colts were basically the laughing stock of Indianapolis when Peyton Manning arrived. The Hoosier Dome wasn't selling out, the Colts had basically no history other than a few seasons of Eric Dickerson and the AFCG run in 1995. Put it this way, the Colts had been in Indianapolis for something like 15 years when Manning arrived and they had won the division once. No one had faith in the owner. The Colts simply weren't cool and the NFL wasn't quite as hot as it is now. Believe me, I was at those games in the pre-Manning era, my grandparents were ST holders and I was the only person in our family willing to go to the games with them! The upper bowl was empty, the fans in the lower bowl were totally uninterested. I've seen more field goal battles with the Jets and Bills in the old AFC East to last a lifetime. What little interest people had in the Colts tended to dissipate as soon as pre-clas basketball HS, NCAA basketball and to a lesser extent the NBA (people were following Bird more than the Pacers, but another story for another day) started up.

    If the Colts had drafted Ryan Leaf and continued to stink through the early 2000's, with Indiana's tax averse fanbase and the growing popularity of the NFL, there is a very good chance another city would have seen the opportunity and given Irsay a sweetheart deal to get out of the aging RCA Dome and into a state of the art facility somewhere else. Indianapolis would be much closer to Columbus, Ohio than a "real" big city. " The city seems to be on the up and up, hosting big events including a Super Bowl, like it or not the city would be held in much less regard without the Colts and without Manning there may be no Colts. Take it from someone who lives somewhere else, I get a somewhat different reaction to saying I am from the Indy area now than I did 10 years ago. People will now mention "oh, the Colts" or maybe the Super Bowl or even just acknowledge the city, ten years ago they just said "where?

    Not to discount Montana or anything, the guy is definitely in the conversation for GOAT, but Manning's impact on the Colts really transcends football, and to the extent that it encompasses football, it completely changed the trajectory of the franchise. And Peyton knows all this, he's not dumb.

    Yeah sure I must've missed all the championships they won before Montana. The Niners weren't the Steelers or Giants in that regard or even the Colts who had a far storied history than the Niners ever did pre Montana but it wasn't in Indianapolis.

    But despite the SBs he won and putting the Niners on the map he was still disposable to them just like Manning was to the Colts and every player is to a team at some point in time in their career. I know its not a nice thing to say but its the cold clinical world of business.

    Difference here is that this means something to people around here because its the Colts and Manning. Yet people seem to forget about Montana and SF.

    I just find it rather unrealistic for anyone here to think Peyton has any warm fuzzy feelings towards Colts fans and the Colts in general beyond being a part of his past and nothing more.

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