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    The Pacers appear to be in good shape this season, however, I think they need another "rim protector". Here is why.

    What happens if Hibbert gets injured? I don't see Mahamini playing 30+ mpg for any length of time and being effective. West and Scola are good players but they aren't going to block or alter many shots. Having another 6'11" or bigger shot blocker on the bench would help. Someone like a Fesenko that would be kind of an insurance policy. Should Hibbert get injured, Fesenko (or whoever) could give us 10-12 mpg and block or alter shots. That means if we could get 20-25 mpg from Mahamini, we would basically have 30-35 mpg with someone in the game to block or alter shots.

    That's just my opinion. I would interested to see what other people think.

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    My opinion is if Hibbert goes down the season is lost, no reason to worry about trying to replace him.

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    Well, if Roy gets injured and misses a big part of the season, the Pacers aren't going anywhere. They're fine (IMHFO) with what they got.

    Fez ?? Really ??

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    Well, I have clearly stated that I want us to get a 3rd Center ever since we traded Miles. I just like the insurance that it provides.
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    Well, I have clearly stated that I want us to get a 3rd Center ever since we traded Miles. I just like the insurance that it provides.
    I agree, but the Pacers front office seems to see Scola as a PF/C. I have no strong opinion on that... we'll see how it works out.
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    we probably should have signed Oden just to keep him away from Miami and if he gets healthy it would have been a nice bonus

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    we probably should have signed Oden just to keep him away from Miami and if he gets healthy it would have been a nice bonus
    We tried. He wanted to be in Miami.
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    My opinion is if Hibbert goes down the season is lost, no reason to worry about trying to replace him.
    I respectfully disagree. I think we are good enough to make the playoffs without Hibbert. How far we go in the playoffs is another question. If we get a high enough seed (which would be a surprise without Hibbert), we could get into the second round. If Hibbert misses and then is able to return for the playoffs, we could still go deep into the playoffs.

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    Well, if Roy gets injured and misses a big part of the season, the Pacers aren't going anywhere. They're fine (IMHFO) with what they got.

    Fez ?? Really ??
    Fez is just an example. A 7'1" 280 pound guy that can come in and play 10 minutes or so and give the opponents something to think about when they get close to the rim.

    You could pencil in just about anyone that is 6'11" or bigger that could play around 10 mpg in an emergency and block or alter shots.

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    There are very few guys that could come in and keep us at the level Roy does. None of them are available. Ian is a pretty solid back up imo. He gets too much crap on here. I'm eager to see him with some talent on the bench this year. We would absolutely make the playoffs without Roy. This team is talented. But to win a title, we need a healthy Roy.

    Quite frankly we can't play a "what if so and so gets injured" game. What does Miami do if LeBron gets injured? Look at OKC, what happened when Westbrook went down? **** happens and when a player of that level goes down, there aren't enough guys at that level for a team to be able to insert another one into his spot. Its no secret that keeping players healthy is key in winning a title.

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    You asked, and the Pacers delivered. We've apparently signed Hilton Armstrong to camp.

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    I respectfully disagree. I think we are good enough to make the playoffs without Hibbert. How far we go in the playoffs is another question. If we get a high enough seed (which would be a surprise without Hibbert), we could get into the second round. If Hibbert misses and then is able to return for the playoffs, we could still go deep into the playoffs.
    Yeah, at that point in time that is a lost season. We are at a point where we should be competing for a championship, if we are unable because of an injury that is a lost season to me, even if you can still be relatively successful.
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    You asked, and the Pacers delivered. We've apparently signed Hilton Armstrong to camp.
    He's the kind of player I was hoping we would get.

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    I agree, but the Pacers front office seems to see Scola as a PF/C. I have no strong opinion on that... we'll see how it works out.
    Well, Scola is in no way a rim protector. Great player, though
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    There's still some defensive concern if Roy goes down, but I'll say that I feel a million times better about a DWest/Scola/Ian big man rotation than I did with a DWest/Tyler/Ian rotation.
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    Some teams don't even have one legitimate rim protector...

    I am not at all sure that effective second or third string rim protectors are growing on trees, just waiting to be plucked. On paper at least, we are a pretty deep team this season, able to play a few different styles. I am confident our coaching staff can devise ways to keep us afloat should a major injury occur.
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    Aww...come on...no Fez gif by now makes me sad...yeah if Hibbert is out for an extended period, the Pacers are in trouble.
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    I think we're fine here. Ian is as good as anyone we could acquire fitting this description. If for some reason it becomes necessary, Scola can indeed play C in a pinch. We certainly wouldn't want him out there much, but it wouldn't be terrible for a backup. We could play small ball with Granger and Copeland at the forward positions and drain threes.

    ...oh, and don't forget that West could play C. Not a rim protector but he can intimidate and play good post D.

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    we probably should have signed Oden just to keep him away from Miami and if he gets healthy it would have been a nice bonus
    I never really liked the strategy of signing a guy to keep him away from somewhere else (unless you're playing fantasy football). And sometimes the strategy can wind up being a disaster (Toronto spending money on Fields in an attempt to alter the plans of Steve Nash).

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    Roy Ian and Scola are 3 solid rim protectors. I think we are fine
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    Scola is not a rim protector at all.

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    Yeah, Scola is one of the worst defenders in the league, regardless of position. He isn't protecting anything.

    Now he is still an effective player, especially with a big (Ian, Roy) to protect him defensively. But be warned: his defense is horrific.

    Ian is paid at a premium to be Hibbert insurance. He looked lost playing with the starters against the Clippers. He clearly didn't have a strong hold of where he was supposed to be in the rotations. But the ability is there, and there is a good chance he could pick it up if given 2-3 weeks playing with the starters in case of an emergency.

    Hopefully, we will never find out. The Clippers game highlighted just how much this defense hinges on Hibbert.

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    He's a big body who can defend the rim. He won't be the best at it, but he'll be an asset in that area
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    The fact that he has a big body doesn't mean he can protect the rim. He's not going to be blocking shots and altering shots in any team-defense/help-defense kind of way. I mean maybe occasionally, but certainly not with regularity.

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    He really doesn't even have a "big" body when compared to other post players. He's only the size of Tyler, 6'9" 245ish.
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