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    Default So does this settle the Curry is ok starting question

    Yet another game we start JJ instead of Curry and yet another time the oposing team is not allowed to get out to a huge lead at the begining of the game. I hope the puts to rest any thoughts that Rick may have had of ever starting Curry again.

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    Default Re: So does this settle the Curry is ok starting question

    Do you really think it is because Curry is not in the lineup. I could list 10 factors involved in the "faster starts" and Curry not starting would not make my list.

    P.S. Ragnar, I thought AJ had a horrible game tonight

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    I think it helps to have JJ in instead. JJ draws the defense a little when he's not hitting, and much more when he IS hitting, like in the first half tonight.

    He also keeps his man in front of him better than Curry.

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    JJ does need to work on his passing, it isn't very good.

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    Default Re: So does this settle the Curry is ok starting question

    I think the pros I mentioned vs that one con is worth starting him until Jackson is back.

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    Default Re: So does this settle the Curry is ok starting question

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    Do you really think it is because Curry is not in the lineup. I could list 10 factors involved in the "faster starts" and Curry not starting would not make my list.
    I would definatly put it in the top 10 in fact I would put it in the top 3. You dont seem to put any weight to the impact it makes on the rest of the team. When Curry starts Jermaine has to do more because they will double off of Curry a lot more than off of JJ. Also Curry can not guard his man. Not that JJ is a great defender but he clearly does a better job than Curry. So since JJ's man is not blowing by him on every play like he is if Curry is in there Jermaine does not have to come over to help out as much.


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    P.S. Ragnar, I thought AJ had a horrible game tonight
    I was not going to say anything.

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    Curry is gone when Jackson comes back right?

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    Curry is gone when Jackson comes back right?
    I think they'll hold onto him; don't know how much he will play though.

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    I would definatly put it in the top 10 in fact I would put it in the top 3. You dont seem to put any weight to the impact it makes on the rest of the team. When Curry starts Jermaine has to do more because they will double off of Curry a lot more than off of JJ. Also Curry can not guard his man. Not that JJ is a great defender but he clearly does a better job than Curry. So since JJ's man is not blowing by him on every play like he is if Curry is in there Jermaine does not have to come over to help out as much.




    I was not going to say anything.

    You're so kind.

    As far as Curry v. JJ, I understand all the arguments that you are making, but I don't see much difference in the effect on the team.

    I'll be glad in 6 more games when Jax will start, and this debate will end.

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    I think Curry was a good pickup for the team. I dont mind him playing arround 8 to 10 minutes a game. I just dont want to see him start ever again in my life.

    I would much rather keep him than Edwards. At least Curry was an NBA player something Edwards will never be qualified to say.

    Of course I would rather see Holcomb on the team than either one of them.

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    Default Re: So does this settle the Curry is ok starting question

    Ok lets try a hypothetical for you.

    Can you see a difference between if AJ started or Tinsley started?

    P.S. I will also be glad to have Jack back and there will be no chance that Curry will ever start again.

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    Ok lets try a hypothetical for you.

    Can you see a difference between if AJ started or Tinsley started?

    P.S. I will also be glad to have Jack back and there will be no chance that Curry will ever start again.


    Yes, oh yes a huge difference. Ragnar you know I'm on board with Tinsley, I was defending him a couple of weeks ago (when others were ripping him)for getting a few technicals.

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    Default Re: So does this settle the Curry is ok starting question

    I am just trying to make sure you know that there is a difference in games between who starts.

    I really think JJ is an underrated defender. On top of that he spreads the floor and that can not be over looked.

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    Default Re: So does this settle the Curry is ok starting question

    How can anyone not see the difference of not having Curry out there? The plus/minus numbers (both for this year and past years) back up the fact that he hurts the team far more than any other player. In the three blowout losses, the team with Curry on the bench got outscored by 16 pts/48 min while the team with Curry in got outscored by 32 pts/48 min. Curry as a starter has always been responsible for his teams having slow starts (it happened all the time in Detroit). There's absolutely no reason to defend him (in more ways than one).

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    I do have to agree that having JJ in the lineup makes our team look much better. And they seem to be playing better. Especially defensively
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    Default Re: So does this settle the Curry is ok starting question

    Of course I'm part of the James Jones bandwagon, so obviously I like him starting.

    He can shoot, although like other have said, he needs to shoot more. Also he's a very long defender, but the one problem is that he's not the quickest guy in the world. Nothing against Curry, but he's just out of shape.

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    I think a bigger factor is that we are not playing the Mavs, Spurs or Suns on a road trip.

    Neither player should be starting...unfortunately one of them pretty much has to start.

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    Default Re: So does this settle the Curry is ok starting question

    It's either that or start Fred.

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    Default Re: So does this settle the Curry is ok starting question

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    It's either that or start Fred.
    At SF or in place of Reggie? :gasp: :room goes silent:

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    Default Re: So does this settle the Curry is ok starting question

    The second biggest factor is that the coaches actually drew up a game plan for Phoenix. Listen to the quotes on Pacers.com, Jeff admits they weren't prepared the first game and were totally lost out there.

    The biggest factor is obvious. Mark Boyle even talked about it in the post game. The change between this game and the last was Scot. He alone is worth a 53-point swing. We're 7-0 when he plays. As Scot himself said, you can't argue with those numbers.
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    Default Re: So does this settle the Curry is ok starting question

    Quote Originally Posted by Bball
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    At SF or in place of Reggie? :gasp: :room goes silent:

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    Well, I thought the "Fred's starting at SF" thing was a load of crap... He always guarded the SG, and Reggie guarded the SF. So if that means he's starting at SG "in place of Reggie" (and Reg slides to the 3), then what do you call that?

    But yeah, I prefer JJ starting at 3.

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