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    This can be the thread where we discuss anything going on in the NFL that doesn't concern the Colts.

    We can start off with the comically dysfunctional Jets. It was dumb for the big guy to put Sanchez in during the fourth quarter, but the NY media is roasting him as if it was Aaron Rodgers who got hurt. Let's not lose sight of the fact that Mark Sanchez is an absolutely terrible quarterback. Again, it was a dumb move to put him in right there, but I doubt it has much of an affect on the W/L column.

    It's no surprise that things are going south for the Jets so quickly. It's never a good omen when your quarterback comes to pre-season workouts looking like this:



    I can't think of any HOF NFL quarterbacks who rocked a headband in their lettuce.

    The Jets have 4-12 written all over them. They should just start Geno Smith from day one and worry about the future, but the problem is that they have a head coach with different priorities. Rex Ryan doesn't care about the future because he knows that this year is do or die. Thus, he'll probably go with the veteran Sanchez when he's healthy.


    I think New Orleans comes back and wins that division. They were a 13-3 team just two years ago. Sean Payton is that good of a head coach. They will come out with a massive chip on their shoulder.

    10-6 probably takes the NFC East again. Every team but the Eagles should have a chance at winning the division. Dallas will have their customary chance at winning it on the last day of the season, but will blow it to either Washington or New York again.

    I hear a bunch of pundits saying that the Colts will fall back to earth a bit, but what about the Texans? They started out 11-1 last year and I don't see that happening again. They obviously have a lot of talent, but I will never be sold on their quarterback.

    This certainly won't be the best team that the Pats have had over the last decade, but they will still take the division with complete ease.

    Peyton hype will dominate the season. There is a Manning bowl, the customary Brady-Manning match-up, and the Peyton return to Indy. All three of those major games are on the road. This is a team that should cakewalk to the division crown again.

    I could see San Francisco and Seattle disappointing people.

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    The Jets are just bizarre.

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    The Jets are just bizarre.

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    lol. That GIF will be used about a billion times in NFL message boards this season.

    What happened to his annual Super Bowl guarantees?

    He has become a thin parody of his former self.

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    "Lose every one for Jadeveon"
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    There are some great games on slate this week:

    Ravens @ Broncos tonight

    Atlanta @ New Orleans

    Green Bay @ San Francisco

    The media circle jerk over the NFC East will be in full swing this weekend. Giants @ Cowboys Sunday night. Eagles @ Redskins on Monday. If it were up to the media, the NFC East teams would exclusively play all of their games against each other.

    God I love the start of NFL season. Welcome back, shield.

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    Not going to lie, actively rooting against all NFC East teams just because of ESPN. It's so annoying.
    Don't ask Marvin Harrison what he did during the bye week. "Batman never told where the Bat Cave is," he explained.

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    Not going to lie, actively rooting against all NFC East teams just because of ESPN. It's so annoying.
    I like the Giants when they go on deep playoff runs, but yeah, I hate the hype that the division gets as a collective whole.

    Expect about 1,150 reports on how RGIII is feeling between now and Monday night. Also, expect every analyst to be asked to comment on the relationship between Bob Griffin and Coach Shanny.
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    The worst part is even if they lose they'll be dissecting what went wrong, what's wrong with RG3's knee, etc etc
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    The worst part is even if they lose they'll be dissecting what went wrong, what's wrong with RG3's knee, etc etc
    ....complete with sports science knee graphics that will give us a detailed image of the area of knee that was injured, and how the knee reacted to the hits the Eagles gave him.

    Coach Chip's crew might not win a lot of games this year, but you know they'd love to get a couple licks in on Bob G.

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    While I get tired of NFC East over-exposure, it will be interesting to see how Chip Kelly's tempo of offense and unorthodox philosophies, such as very often going for 2, work in the NFL.

    I cannot care any less about the Cowboys though. They should be considered irrelevant until they actually do something on the field, but they are so overexposed it's pathetic.
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    I cannot care any less about the Cowboys though. They should be considered irrelevant until they actually do something on the field, but they are so overexposed it's pathetic.
    But aren't you beyond excited to see Romo's new change in throwing mechanics?

    Now we have Tony Romo, who told Fox Sports Southwest he's "discovered something that is going to be really special" with a change in his throwing mechanics.

    "I don't want to get into all the details of it," Romo said. "But I really think it can be a positive change."

    The change, we're told, has something to do with "arm angles and release points." This would make sense.


    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap100...really-special



    Jim Rome's take....

    It’s not about mechanics with Romo. It’s about biology. The way his trachea tightens when the clock ticks down. You want a positive change? Change your throat mechanics.

    The only new throwing motion any Cowboys fan cares about – is one where you’re not running to make a tackle after you finish a throw.


    lmao

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    Change your throat mechanics.
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    I dont watch ESPN much any more, but I do find it funny hearing Colts fans complain about Robert Griffin getting exposure. Not like Peyton did not eat up the camera (to his credit Luck has not yet, but I expect that to change. at least I hope it does for his sake)

    I expect the Eagles to take as many shots at Robert Griffins knee, but then again they may be overly busy fighting each other...

    (not sure why the trend became to call him "Bob", but I thought it was funny the Giants and Cowboys called him that last year, and both teams STFU after they played us. OH well)

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    Pro football is not my favorite sport, in fact I probably watch more college football and premier league than I do NFL these days. However this new breed of QB's, Wilson, Griffin, Luck, Kapernick, coupled with Manning, Brady, Flacco, and Big Ben still being quite relevant, is going to make for an interesting year.

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    I agree

    Weirdly, I used to like NCAA more. I am not sure if it is just me aging, or what, but I feel like I enjoy the NCAA less now (I feel it is more a business, as seen with the 2 quarter Johnny M suspension)

    Anyways, I agree. I am super excited for this year

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    I dont watch ESPN much any more, but I do find it funny hearing Colts fans complain about Robert Griffin getting exposure. Not like Peyton did not eat up the camera (to his credit Luck has not yet, but I expect that to change. at least I hope it does for his sake)

    I expect the Eagles to take as many shots at Robert Griffins knee, but then again they may be overly busy fighting each other...

    (not sure why the trend became to call him "Bob", but I thought it was funny the Giants and Cowboys called him that last year, and both teams STFU after they played us. OH well)
    Peyton earned it. He laid low for years before he started becoming more visible. Once he started becoming more visible (after he had accomplished a lot in the NFL), he was producing funny commercials and positive messages in his pressers. Bob The Third has splashed himself all over every media channel, good or bad. Constant pressers about his health, his relationship with his coach.... tons of commercials, tweets speaking his mind on the topics of the day, right or wrong, wedding announcements. They went about it entirely different. Bob comes across as an attention-seeker. He hasn't "earned" it yet; he's just striking while the iron's hot, which just cheapens the entire presentation. I also think this is partly why you see these defensive guys hitting him just a little bit harder.
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    That was cute how you called him Bob......I have not noticed him getting hit harder, either, but maybe I just missed it. I also dont see Roberts as a attention seeker, just someone who has the spotlight.

    I will admit he is all over the media, but IMO that has more to do with him being our only good QB is a zillion years then anything he has done. He also came in and was our best player as a rookie, and won rookie of the year (and won the NFCE and took us to our first playoffs since 1999). I will see he earned it plenty, with plenty more to come

    As for the wedding stuff, I am not sure what that has to do with anything. He did not send out any announcements, the fans (I knew the first 2) found it via a online search and started sending him gifts.

    About the only part I agree with is he is all over social media. But he is far from the worst off. IMO I think a lot (most) of modern athletes would do good to stay off of social media, but I am also not going to begrudge them for being on it. At least they arent saying stupid things like "when I wake up I am Lebron james and you are still you"

    EDIT: As for the contant pressers, you cant win for losing. If he said no comment he would take **** from some people. If he doesn't give an answer he is rude. If he answers he is an attention whore. Seems he cant win for losing on most fronts of your argument.

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    I know he's your QB so you're gonna defend him to the hilt, va.... the dude is over-exposed, and getting worse so by the day. I think RG3 has some positive qualities on the field, although there are also things he does that make me cringe. I wish he'd just shut up and go away for awhile and start producing something on the field for awhile before he starts splashing himself all over every damn media outlet. All the exposure he's had over the summer has done nothing except create drama. No new information was ever released. Just "he's rehabbing and hoping to start day 1". And yet we had to have the daily Robert updates. And his mouthing off to the media about his coach. And then we take a commercial break and see 2 RG3 commercials. It's gettin' bad, man. If he'd just focus on kicking *** on the football field and reducing his mouth and exposure, I'd take a liking to the guy. As he's currently going about it, I'm just annoyed. I'm sorry if that offends you. Of all the QBs from that class, including Kap, RG3 gets on my nerves by far the most. There was nothing he did above and beyond what any of the other three did last year, in fact he probly exposed the most flaws... but he absolutely dominates the media channels and hype machine. I understand he's "brought hope" to a franchise, but there's no reason he can't just clam it and play football, he'd be doing your team and the entire nation a favor.
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    Once again, you blame him, I blame sports nation and the media.

    As for the commercials, I have no problem with them as long as he is still focusing on football.

    Once again, he is getting asked questions on a daily basis about his injury. Unless you know for a fact he set each and every one of those up, your arguments makes no sense to me. He gets asked a question, he answers it. The irony to me is if he "clams" it half the world will be *****ing at what a stuck up prick he is.

    Like I said, damned if he does, damned if he doesnt.

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    I don't blame the media, they're just doing what they're paid to do! You don't see the same circus around Luck, Wilson, even Newton all of whom *could* have a circus around them, but they deflect it! Luck especially; he has the complete opposite stance, he exudes privacy and politely deflects and always takes attention *away* from himself and onto his teammates and coaches.... that's no accident, man. That's a conscious path he chose to reduce the circus around himself. It's like saying Terrell Owens wasn't to blame for the circus around him... it was all the media. The blame is on the person at the center of it, they are the ones who ultimately control what's going on. Wilson is hardly ever heard from. He conducts himself tremendously in interviews. Kap is sorta iffy.... he's not near as attention-seeking, but he's cashed in on some endorsements and posted a few dumb tweets... but his exposure is not near the scale of RG3.
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    I don't blame the media, they're just doing what they're paid to do! You don't see the same circus around Luck, Wilson, even Newton all of whom *could* have a circus around them, but they deflect it! Luck especially; he has the complete opposite stance, he exudes privacy and politely deflects and always takes attention *away* from himself and onto his teammates and coaches.... that's no accident, man. That's a conscious path he chose to reduce the circus around himself. You gotta remember, RG3 wasn't always a hot prospect --- Luck has been deflecting media mobs for years; he was the center of college football analysis, but he never let that circus develop around him. The blame is on the person at the center of it, they are the ones who ultimately control what's going on.
    That's part of it the rest is that Luck is has a rather bland personality. RG3 is a lot more engaging thus the media is more willing to flock to him and DC is also a bigger market the NFC East is always going to get a lot of press than other teams.

    Rarely does a small market team get coverage in comparison unless there's a superstar on the team....

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    There are a couple instances where Griffin is clearly wanting all the attention on himself:

    1) Him wearing Adidas instead of Nike during warmups on multiple occasions. He knows the cameras are always on him and this will get talked about on Twitter and TV.

    2) When he had ESPN follow him around the weight room a few weeks ago. His teammates say there's no way he can beat the locker room record. So Griffin has to tell everyone how competitive of a person he is, how he's out to prove people wrong, does some pushups and pullups and voila, he breaks the locker room record on Sportscenter.

    The commercials and endorsements: if it doesn't affect his play and preparation for football, which it clearly didn't last year, why not take the money?

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    That's part of it the rest is that Luck is has a rather bland personality. RG3 is a lot more engaging thus the media is more willing to flock to him and DC is also a bigger market the NFC East is always going to get a lot of press than other teams.

    Rarely does a small market team get coverage in comparison unless there's a superstar on the team....
    I don't buy that... if RG3 were in Indy (which could have happened, imagine if Luck had entered the year before like everyone thought he would), he'd be creating the same circus (and I'd be pulling my hair out...)
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    The nice thing about the NFL starting is that ESPN can now dote on players outside of RG3...slightly
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