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Patriots TE Aaron Hernandez's home searched after killing

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  • #46
    Re: Patriots TE Aaron Hernandez's home searched after killing

    Originally posted by Pacergeek View Post
    I wonder if NE would consider trading him to the Colts for this season. I mean, his trade vale has to be at his lowest. I'm such a blowhard Colts fan, I could look past the fact that he is a murderer. I don't care if he murdered his entire family, as long as he was catching TD's from Andrew Luck, I would root for the guy
    I think his football career is over...

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    • #47
      Re: Patriots TE Aaron Hernandez's home searched after killing

      Originally posted by BlueCollarColts View Post
      I think his football career is over...
      He'll be catching plenty of balls as a wide receiver in prison.

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      • #48
        Re: Patriots TE Aaron Hernandez's home searched after killing

        Here is the best article I've read on the first shooting, the man he may have shot in the face.

        http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports...dley/2438713/#

        The man who is suing Aaron Hernandez and claiming the New England Patriots tight end shot him in the face told responding police the night of the incident he was shot by "both black and Hispanic males," according to a police report obtained by USA TODAY Sports.
        Alexander S. Bradley, a 30-year-old Connecticut native who is the plaintiff in the suit against Hernandez, initially told police he didn't know who shot him but then provided the description of the two males to Officer Alex Mack, according to the 17-page report. Bradley then said he didn't want to talk anymore because it hurt, the report stated. When he refused to cooperate with investigators later at the hospital, police deemed his case to be inactive.
        Last week, attorneys for Bradley filed a lawsuit in a South Florida district court alleging it was Hernandez who aimed and fired a gun at Bradley while they were in a vehicle traveling from Miami toward Palm Beach, after a night of partying at strip clubs on about Feb. 13. Bradley was found alone in an alley behind a John Deere shop, bleeding from his head and right hand, at 6:47 a.m. Feb. 13. Riviera Beach is about an hour north of Miami.
        DOCUMENT: Complaint against Aaron Hernandez
        DOCUMENT: Hernandez's summons
        This court filing, and the February police report, came to light as police in Massachusetts continue to investigate the homicide of a 27-year-old man in North Attleborough, Mass. Police there spent more than two hours searching Hernandez's home on Tuesday, with a sports utility vehicle rented in Hernandez's name considered a vehicle of interest.
        Hernandez has not been named as a suspect, or even a person of interest, in that case, and his agent and lawyer have declined to comment. CytoSport, one of Hernandez's sponsors, also said it would refuse comment.
        Bradley's lawsuit was initially filed on June 13, but the complaint was withdrawn on Monday because of an error with the paper work, attorney David Jarslawicz told USA TODAY Sports. The lawsuit was to be refiled on Wednesday, Jarslawicz said.
        According to Bradley's complaint, he lost his right eye and has undergone multiple surgeries to reconstruct the area of his face around the eye. The complaint also indicates Bradley will have to undergo future procedures on his face and arm as well. Bradley is seeking damages in excess of $100,000.
        Bradley's attorneys allege Hernandez, who attended the University of Florida from 2007-2009, was not legally licensed to carry the firearm, which they claim he pointed at Bradley sometime after the two men and two others left Tootsie's, a strip club in Miami where they allege the two had an argument.
        HOMICIDE CONNECTION? Cops return to Hernandez's home
        "We don't know whether it was accidental or deliberate," Jaroslawicz said when asked how and why the gun was allegedly discharged. "If we get to take Mr. Hernandez's testimony, perhaps he will tell us he accidentally pulled the trigger or maybe he did it on purpose."
        Hernandez was issued a summons to answer the complaint.
        Police say Bradley was treated at the scene and taken to nearby St. Mary's Hospital, where Jaroslawicz said Bradley remained for a few weeks. Police say that, when questioned at the hospital, Bradley maintained ignorance about who shot him, though they claim he told them the wounds were "absolutely not" self-inflicted.
        Bradley and Hernandez are natives of Connecticut, with about 20 miles separating Hernandez's hometown of Bristol and Bradley's address in East Hartford. According to court records in Connecticut, Bradley pleaded guilty in 2006 to a felony charge of sale of a hallucinogen/narcotic. He was sentenced to five years in jail, but the sentence was suspended after 18 months, according to court records. He also received five years' probation.
        The Palm Beach County Sheriff's Office has not responded to requests from USA TODAY Sports about the status of the shooting case, in light of the recent lawsuit.
        ***
        USA TODAY Sports' Lindsay H. Jones contributed to this report
        "Just look at the flowers ........ BANG" - Carol "The Walking Dead"

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        • #49
          Re: Patriots TE Aaron Hernandez's home searched after killing

          Originally posted by Pacergeek View Post
          I wonder if NE would consider trading him to the Colts for this season. I mean, his trade vale has to be at his lowest. I'm such a blowhard Colts fan, I could look past the fact that he is a murderer. I don't care if he murdered his entire family, as long as he was catching TD's from Andrew Luck, I would root for the guy
          This can't be a serious post. Can it?

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          • #50
            Re: Patriots TE Aaron Hernandez's home searched after killing

            and people thought Gronk was the New England TE trouble maker

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            • #51
              Re: Patriots TE Aaron Hernandez's home searched after killing

              I think it is over for him, in some way he will be linked to this murder, he better hope they find no evidence to who committed the crime.

              Everything that is coming out is going against him, but I would rather spend a little time in jail for tampering with the investigation by breaking my cell phone, and security system, and hiring a cleaning service that to not do that and possibly go to prison for life.

              This will be an interesting story to follow.
              Why so SERIOUS

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              • #52
                Re: Patriots TE Aaron Hernandez's home searched after killing

                warrant out for Hernandez's arrest for obstruction of justice, max sentence=40 years

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                • #53
                  Re: Patriots TE Aaron Hernandez's home searched after killing

                  Originally posted by PacerPenguins View Post
                  warrant out for Hernandez's arrest for obstruction of justice, max sentence=40 years
                  America needs to drop that charge on citizens of the United States. To fathom their is even justice in the court system is hilarious. Go read on Shamus Patton in Indiana. He gets a less sentence then a habitual drug addict who didn't shoot anybody or major event in the city. Come On ??? What Justice ??? Dude serves less than 3 years due to a GED & substance abuse time cut. PATHETIC !!!!

                  Pacergeek. A Hernadez would be a huge up-grade over the busted second round draft pick of Coby Fleener. You all give Grigson too much praise and Luck not enough. Luck has made both Grigson and Fleener.

                  Marvin Harrison is also a gang member. He is just too gangster to talk about his affiliations unlike Stephan Jackson. Marvin would always have several firearms on him @ all times. Ask Around. He can carry them legally. Fine but to not act Marvin isn't gangster is ignorance.

                  I don't like Colts fans bashing the Patriots fan base on character issues when you all supported Marvin Harrison.

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                  • #54
                    Re: Patriots TE Aaron Hernandez's home searched after killing

                    Originally posted by Greatestever View Post
                    I don't like Colts fans bashing the Patriots fan base on character issues when you all supported Marvin Harrison.
                    Who's bashing their fan base?
                    Just because you're offended, doesn't mean you're right.” ― Ricky Gervais.

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                    • #55
                      Re: Patriots TE Aaron Hernandez's home searched after killing

                      Originally posted by Greatestever View Post
                      America needs to drop that charge on citizens of the United States. To fathom their is even justice in the court system is hilarious. Go read on Shamus Patton in Indiana. He gets a less sentence then a habitual drug addict who didn't shoot anybody or major event in the city. Come On ??? What Justice ??? Dude serves less than 3 years due to a GED & substance abuse time cut. PATHETIC !!!!

                      Pacergeek. A Hernadez would be a huge up-grade over the busted second round draft pick of Coby Fleener. You all give Grigson too much praise and Luck not enough. Luck has made both Grigson and Fleener.

                      Marvin Harrison is also a gang member. He is just too gangster to talk about his affiliations unlike Stephan Jackson. Marvin would always have several firearms on him @ all times. Ask Around. He can carry them legally. Fine but to not act Marvin isn't gangster is ignorance.

                      I don't like Colts fans bashing the Patriots fan base on character issues when you all supported Marvin Harrison.
                      I dont get how I am bashing the Patriots fan base, you're the one who is bashing Harrison/Colts fan base and supporting Hernandez
                      Last edited by PacerPenguins; 06-21-2013, 10:09 AM.

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                      • #56
                        Re: Patriots TE Aaron Hernandez's home searched after killing

                        The Patriots fan base in no way supports Aaron Hernandez at this point, at all.

                        I think we've moved on to wondering what sort of morals clause he has in his contract, and will they be obligated to give the scumbag another dime.
                        Last edited by Slick Pinkham; 06-21-2013, 10:38 AM.
                        The poster "pacertom" since this forum began (and before!). I changed my name here to "Slick Pinkham" in honor of the imaginary player That Bobby "Slick" Leonard picked late in the 1971 ABA draft (true story!).

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                        • #57
                          Re: Patriots TE Aaron Hernandez's home searched after killing

                          Lying about criticism of a fan base, in order to criticize a fan base, is quite the accomplishment.
                          Just because you're offended, doesn't mean you're right.” ― Ricky Gervais.

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                          • #58
                            Re: Patriots TE Aaron Hernandez's home searched after killing

                            Originally posted by Since86 View Post
                            Who's bashing their fan base?
                            I don't need to name names or call out people on a message board. Read this entire thread. A lot of guilty until proven innocent idealogy. Facts are Facts if you have money in America and murder somebody of no important significance you do not get much time. FACT. Funny how most of America knows Aaron Hernadez's name but few know the name of the victim. The victim was a P.O.S. semi-pro football player that got into a drug beef and was killed over money owed. IDEALOGY of the majority of people on this forum.


                            I am not defending Hernadez. I will not ever defend the criminal justice system in the United States. It is just a big business and money scheme. How can you be a Hoosier and vote for any politician that continues to allow child molesters / murderers time cuts ? Wrong is Wrong is not true if you have money or political clout in the United States.

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                            • #59
                              Re: Patriots TE Aaron Hernandez's home searched after killing

                              Originally posted by Since86 View Post
                              Lying about criticism of a fan base, in order to criticize a fan base, is quite the accomplishment.
                              You are an accomplished poster (CRITIC) on Pacer Digest. Can I have your autograph or buy you a lunch ? How many rapes did Muncie allow Bonzi Wells off of ?

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                              • #60
                                Re: Patriots TE Aaron Hernandez's home searched after killing

                                Originally posted by Greatestever View Post
                                I don't need to name names or call out people on a message board. Read this entire thread. A lot of guilty until proven innocent idealogy. Facts are Facts if you have money in America and murder somebody of no important significance you do not get much time. FACT. Funny how most of America knows Aaron Hernadez's name but few know the name of the victim. The victim was a P.O.S. semi-pro football player that got into a drug beef and was killed over money owed. IDEALOGY of the majority of people on this forum.


                                I am not defending Hernadez. I will not ever defend the criminal justice system in the United States. It is just a big business and money scheme. How can you be a Hoosier and vote for any politician that continues to allow child molesters / murderers time cuts ? Wrong is Wrong is not true if you have money or political clout in the United States.
                                ur right, that's why that scumbag is getting arrested for obstruction bc he is covering up his own murder, next charge coming....conspiracy, after that possibly murder. facts are facts

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