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    Default Is it morally worse to kill a human than it is a dog?

    I do not mean religiously, I just mean am I worse person if I kill another human than if I went out back and shot a stray?


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    Neither will make you popular.

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    Yes.
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    Depends on the human you decide to kill...Sometimes they deserve it. Dogs almost never do...

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    Let us know how it turns out . . .

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    Um.... *backs out of thread slowly*

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    It depends on whether or not the person is a brony.
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    I have two dogs and love them very much, but yes killing a human is worse. (don't tell my dogs I said that, they would be very disappointed with me, sicne they seem to think they are better than humans)

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    When I look into my dog's eyes, I see a precious soul looking back at me. Killing a human or a dog both deserve life imprisonment and eternal torment.

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    When I look into my dog's eyes, I see a precious soul looking back at me. Killing a human or a dog both deserve life imprisonment and eternal torment.
    do dogs have souls, spirits? Like humans do? Does a dog spirit live on beyond this life? I don't know the answer, but I don't think they do. But if dogs do then which animals do and which animals don't. I have to believe Humans are different from animals in this regard.

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    When it comes to crime and punishment on the legal level human life should be more valuable than an animals, but personally I know I care more about my dogs and would save my dogs before a lot of people that have come and gone in my life.

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    which human and which dog?

    A pit bull roaming free, owned and trained by drug dealers, attacked my 80-something father-in-law while he was taking a walk in his own safe upper middle class neighborhood. He survived but had 60+ stitches, was hospitalized for 2 weeks, and is lucky to be living. If I had been there with a gun and an opportunity I'd have certainly shot that dog and it would have been well-deserved to protect my father-in-law. Sure it was not the dog's fault to be raised as a vicious beast, but he was, and you do what you have to do.

    Some random innocent pet, though? Never.
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    do dogs have souls, spirits? Like humans do? Does a dog spirit live on beyond this life? I don't know the answer, but I don't think they do. But if dogs do then which animals do and which animals don't. I have to believe Humans are different from animals in this regard.

    I don't know if a dog has a spirit that lasts beyond this earth, just like I don't know if a human does either. But I do know that my precious dog remembers, thinks, loves, has feelings, etc.

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    I never had a human crap on my floor. Just sayin.

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    I'm going to pose this question a different way: Say some sick twisted person locked you and another person in a basement with absolutely no chance at escaping. His instructions are simple: If you kill the other person, he will let you out, unharmed, to resume your life as you choose to live it. You have seven days to accomplish this. If at the end of the seven days you are both alive, you both will be killed. The catch? The other person does not get the same instructions and does not have the same option. They just think you are both stuck in this basement together and need to rely on each other to stay strong and be there for one another. This person is not someone you are particularly close with, maybe you had a class or two together in school or dealt with each other at work periodically. You have no strong feelings or opinions on this person one way or the other. They are not a physical threat to you; if you started fighting, you would easily be able to overpower this person.

    Now, copy that same scenario, except substitute the other person for a 10 week old Golden Retriever puppy. I assume in the end, each of our survival instincts would kick in enough to where we would end up killing the other person/puppy before we both got killed. My question: Which one would be harder on you, psychologically, to kill?

    Oh, and it just so happens you know the proud owner of the puppy: It is your next door neighbor's dog. They bought it for their 4 year old daughter, who naturally adores the puppy. The person in there with you is kind of a loner: Not married, no kids, keeps to themselves, lives alone.

    Edit: I forgot to mention, you are staying in this basement seven days no matter what. Even if you kill the other person/puppy within the first hour of being down there, you still stay in the basement seven days. Important tidbit.
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    I don't know if a dog has a spirit that lasts beyond this earth, just like I don't know if a human does either. But I do know that my precious dog remembers, thinks, loves, has feelings, etc.
    I don't think a dog thinks at least not like humans do. Or maybe a better way to say it is they don't reason. They are all instincts. Loves, remembers, feelings - yes.

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    This makes me think of what the Unsullied must do to be Unsullied.

    In that story, the dog is harder than human, but also occurs first in the process.

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    I'm going to pose this question a different way: Say some sick twisted person locked you and another person in a basement with absolutely no chance at escaping. His instructions are simple: If you kill the other person, he will let you out, unharmed, to resume your life as you choose to live it. You have seven days to accomplish this. If at the end of the seven days you are both alive, you both will be killed. The catch? The other person does not get the same instructions and does not have the same option. They just think you are both stuck in this basement together and need to rely on each other to stay strong and be there for one another. This person is not someone you are particularly close with, maybe you had a class or two together in school or dealt with each other at work periodically. You have no strong feelings or opinions on this person one way or the other. They are not a physical threat to you; if you started fighting, you would easily be able to overpower this person.

    Now, copy that same scenario, except substitute the other person for a 10 week old Golden Retriever puppy. I assume in the end, each of our survival instincts would kick in enough to where we would end up killing the other person/puppy before we both got killed. My question: Which one would be harder on you, psychologically, to kill?

    Oh, and it just so happens you know the proud owner of the puppy: It is your next door neighbor's dog. They bought it for their 4 year old daughter, who naturally adores the puppy. The person in there with you is kind of a loner: Not married, no kids, keeps to themselves, lives alone.

    Edit: I forgot to mention, you are staying in this basement seven days no matter what. Even if you kill the other person/puppy within the first hour of being down there, you still stay in the basement seven days. Important tidbit.
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    That being said, I think Slick's self defense scenario has merit, but generally, someone who would kill a dog for non self-defense reasons is at the very bottom of the totem pole for me.

    All I know is that if someone did anything to my lab (and best friend), they'd never be able to go out in public without having to look over their shoulder ever again.
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    I don't think a dog thinks at least not like humans do. Or maybe a better way to say it is they don't reason. They are all instincts. Loves, remembers, feelings - yes.

    No doubt that humans have far more mental capabilities. I'm just saying that dogs have souls and personalities too. By "soul", I don't mean that I think they have spirits that go to heaven because I don't even know if I believe in a heaven for humans. I'm just saying that they feel emotions and are precious creatures. Anyone who would hurt an innocent dog should be locked up for life.

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    Humans have more value, but dogs are more innocent.

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    I'd say dog. Harming an innocent and all. Only innocent humans are children really.

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    To me it depends entirely upon intent. If you are doing either act for the sole, cold-blooded purpose of killing a living thing, then I'd say both are equally immoral acts.
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