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    Cool, you can pick when ready.

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    Reposting again, the site won't let me edit anymore.

    1 1 Cleveland Cavaliers - Nerlens Noel, C, Kentucky (BRushWithDeath)
    1 2 Orlando Magic - Trey Burke, PG, Michigan (pacers20)
    1 3 Washington Wizards - Anthony Bennett, PF, UNLV (cdash)
    1 4 Charlotte Bobcats - Ben McLemore, SG, Kansas (Smits Happens)
    1 5 Phoenix Suns - Victor Oladipo, SG, Indiana (BlueCollarColts)
    1 6 New Orleans Pelicans - Otto Porter, SF, Georgetown (Mackey_Rose)
    1 7 Sacramento Kings - Cody Zeller, PF, Indiana (BlueCollarColts)
    1 8 Detroit Pistons - Michael Carter-Williams, PG, Syracuse (btowncolt)
    1 9 Minnesota Timberwolves - Alex Len, C, Maryland (hackashaq)
    1 10 Portland Trail Blazers - Kentavious Caldwell-Pope, SG, Georgia (avoidingtheclowns)
    1 11 Philadelphia 76ers - CJ McCollum, G, Lehigh (LoneGranger33)
    1 12 Oklahoma City Thunder - Steven Adams, C, Pittsburgh (Doddage)
    1 13 Dallas Mavericks - Giannis Adetokunbo, SF, Greece (Goyle)
    1 14 Utah Jazz - Shane Larkin, PG, Miami (Pacer Fan)
    1 15 Milwaukee Bucks - Rudy Gobert, C, France (pacersgroningen)
    1 16 Boston Celtics - Dennis Schroeder, PG, Germany (Pacersalltheway10)
    1 17 Atlanta Hawks - Gorgui Dieng, C, Louisville (Sparhawk)
    1 18 Atlanta Hawks - Glen Rice Jr, SF/SG, Georgia Tech/Rio Grande Valley (Sparhawk)
    1 19 Cleveland Cavaliers - Shabazz Muhammed, SG, UCLA (BRushWithDeath)
    1 20 Chicago Bulls - Allen Crabbe, SG, California (Steagles)
    1 21 Utah Jazz - Kelly Olynyk, C, Gonzaga (Pacer Fan)
    1 22 Brooklyn Nets - Sergey Kasarev, SF, Russia (idioteque)
    1 23 Indiana Pacers - Reggie Bullock, SG, North Carolina (KingGeorge_24)
    1 24 New York Knicks - Tony Snell, SF, New Mexico (vincognito)
    1 25 Los Angeles Clippers - Jamaal Franklin, SG, San Diego State (pacer4ever)
    1 26 Minnesota Timberwolves - Ricky Ledo, SG, Providence (hackashaq)
    1 27 Denver Nuggets - Tony Mitchell, PF, North Texas (kent beckley)
    1 28 San Antonio Spurs - Mason Plumlee, C, Duke (Nuntius)
    1 29 Oklahoma City Thunder - Tim Hardaway Jr, SG, Michigan (Jrod Jones)
    1 30 Phoenix Suns - Jeff Withey, C Kansas (BlueCollarColts)

    2 31 Cleveland Cavaliers - Erick Green, G, Virginia Tech (BRushWithDeath)
    2 32 Oklahoma City Thunder - Livio Jean-Charles, F, France (Jrod Jones)
    2 33 Cleveland Cavaliers - Lucas Nogueira, C, Brazil (BRushWithDeath)
    2 34 Houston Rockets - Mike Muscala, C, Bucknell (OakMoses)
    2 35 Philadelphia 76ers - Isaiah Canaan, G, Murray State (LoneGranger33)
    2 36 Sacramento Kings - Andre Roberson, SF, Colorado (cdash)
    2 37 Detroit Pistons - Archie Goodwin, SG, Kentucky (pacersalltheway10)
    2 38 Washington Wizards - CJ Leslie, SF, North Carolina State (cdash)
    2 39 Portland Trail Blazers - Jackie Carmichael, PF, Illinois State (avoidingtheclowns)
    2 40 Portland Trail Blazers - Nate Wolters, PG, South Dakota State (avoidingtheclowns)
    2 41 Memphis Grizzlies - Deshaun Thomas, F, Ohio State (pacergod2)
    2 42 Philadelphia 76ers - Grant Jerrett, PF, Arizona (hackashaq)
    2 43 Milwaukee Bucks - James Ennis, SG, Long Beach State (pacersgroningen)
    2 44 Dallas Mavericks - Erik Murphy, PF, Florida (Goyle)
    2 45 Portland Trail Blazers - Ray McCallum, PG, Detroit (avoidingtheclowns)
    2 46 Utah Jazz - Myck Kabongo, PG, Texas (Pacer Fan)
    2 47 Atlanta Hawks - Pierre Jackson, PG, Baylor (Sparhawk)
    2 48 Los Angeles Lakers - Carrick Felix, SG, Arizona State (pacer4ever)
    2 49 Chicago Bulls - Trevor Mbakwe, PF, Minnesota (Steagles)
    2 50 Atlanta Hawks - Jamelle Hagins, PF, Delaware (Sparhawk)
    2 51 Orlando Magic - Phil Pressey, PG, Missouri (Coopdog23)
    2 52 Minnesota Timberwolves - Alex Abrines, SG, Spain (hackashaq)
    2 53 Indiana Pacers - Christian Watford, F, Indiana (KingGeorge_24)
    2 54 Washington Wizards - Seth Curry, SG, Duke (cdash)
    2 55 Memphis Grizzlies - Peyton Siva, PG, Lousville (pacergod2)
    2 56 Detroit Pistons - Augusto Lima, PF, Brazil (Doddage)
    2 57 Phoenix Suns - Solomon Hill, SF, Arizona (BlueCollarColts)
    2 58 San Antonio Spurs - Matthew Dellavedova, PG, Saint Mary's (Nuntius)
    2 59 Minnesota Timberwolves - Marko Todorovic, C, Montenegro (hackashaq)
    2 60 Memphis Grizzlies - Dewayne Dedmon, C, USC (pacergod2)
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    The Detroit Pistons have so far picked a couple backcourt players in Michael Carter-Williams and Archie Goodwin to add to their current perimeter corp. At this point, it wouldn't hurt to look at frontcourt prospects since the team's backups are Jason Maxiell, Charlie Villanueva (who doesn't figure to get any minutes), the returning Jonas Jerebko, and Slava Kravtsov.

    With that said, with the 56th pick in the NBA Draft, the Detroit Pistons select Augusto Lima from Brazil.

    Lima has some excellent physical tools, and the team would benefit from energy and rebounding when either Greg Monroe or Andre Drummond are on the bench.
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    The Detroit Pistons have so far picked a couple backcourt players in Michael Carter-Williams and Archie Goodwin to add to their current perimeter corp. At this point, it wouldn't hurt to look at frontcourt prospects since the team's backups are Jason Maxiell, Charlie Villanueva (who doesn't figure to get any minutes), the returning Jonas Jerebko, and Slava Kravtsov.

    With that said, with the 56th pick in the NBA Draft, the Detroit Pistons select Augusto Lima from Brazil.

    Lima has some excellent physical tools, and the team would benefit from energy and rebounding when either Greg Monroe or Andre Drummond are on the bench.
    Love that pick, wouldnt mind to hear his named called at #53 Thursday. Solid stash guy.

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    Admins can edit first post, when the draft is all done I'll edit post 1 with the full results and edit the title.
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    BlueCollarColts and the Phoenix Suns are on the clock.
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    With the 57th pick the Phoenix Suns select Solomon Hill, we were worried about our SF and hopefully in a few years we think he can be able to help

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    Yay, I'm on the clock. I'll post my pick within this hour
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    So, I have tons of players under my radar at this point. I'll write some words for them and then make my pick:

    James Southerland: A 6'8 SF with a 7'1 wingspan and solid athleticism that is projected as one of the best shooters in the draft. I don't understand why no one has picked him yet. I believe that he will get drafted.

    Nemanja Nedovic: A 6'4 combo guard with a 6'6.75" wingspan. Great athlete. He has some experience of high level pro basketball as he participated in the Euroleague with Lietuvos Rytas. He is a bit turnover prone but he has the necessary tools to be a shot creator.

    Ryan Kelly: Kelly has two main strenghts. He has size (almost 7 ft) and can play basketball. He has an array of scoring moves and he is a good passer as well. In other words, the kid knows how to play basketball. He does't seem like an NBA athlete, though. I'm not sure if Ryan Kelly is going to make it in the NBA. But I believe that he deserves a chance. In case that he doesn't make it in the NBA I know that he will be a very good player in Europe. His game will definitely translate over here just like it happened with Paul Davis.

    Mindaugas Kupsas: Ok, I have a soft spot for Kupsas so I'm probably a homer here. But he's huge. He measured 7'1.5" in shoes with a 7'3 wingspan (9'5 Standing Reach) and weighted 276 lbs. He is an awful athlete but he knows the game. He belonged in the Arvydas Sabonis school so how could he not know the game? Good post player that knows what to do with the ball in his hands. Solid defender due to size and good fundamentals. He could develop into a two-way player but that will only be possible if he works hard to improve his athleticism like Hibbert did.

    Norvel Pelle: Potential could be his middle name. This guy was once considered an elite HS player. He is long (7'2.5" wingspan), he is a good athlete and he can play. But he only weights 207 lbs and gets pushed around like no other. He needs a lot of work. Luckily, he is still only 20 years old (a young 20) so he has the room to improve.

    Zeke Marshall: A 7 footer with a 7'5 wingspan that has a semblance of an offensive game and blocks tons of shots. He is definitely worthy of consideration at this point. I'd love him if he was a better rebounder.

    Alex Oriakhi: I don't consider Oriakhi a Center prospect at the NBA level. I see him as a PF. And at PF his size and length intrigue me. He measured at 6'9.75" with a 7'3.75" wingspan. Those measurements are similar with David West (6'9.25", 7'4.25"). He also scored an impressive 20 in bench press. It's clear that Oriakhi has the size and strength to play as a PF in the NBA. But does he have the skills to do it? Well, he was a good FT in his senior year. He shot 74.6% from the line and went to the line often. He is also a good rebounder. I like him as a player. If he can develop a mid range jumper then he can evolve into a nice two-way player.

    Arsalan Kazemi: He was one of my favorite players to watch. Amazing rebounder, smart passer and good defender. Kazemi's problem is that he has the size of a SF but the game of a PF. Can he make the transition to SF or will he remain a tweener? That's the major question. I believe that his rebounding will translate to the NBA level and that he'll be able to fit in any team as an energy player that plays great D, rebounds amazingly, makes smart passes and scores efficiently in limited volume.

    Matthew Dellavedova: A very interesting 6'4 PG. He is a mediocre athlete. His length isn't impressive (6'4 wingspan) and he didn't score well in Lane Agility and 3/4 Court Sprint tests. In fact, Arsalan Kazemi beat him in Lane Agility (Dellavedova scored 11.70 while Kazemi scored 11.66) and came close in 3'4 Court Sprint as well (Dellavedova scored 3.35, Kazemi scored 3.43). But he is strong and actually beat Kazemi in bench press (Dellavedova scored 16 while Kazemi scored 12). His 31 inches max vert isn't impressive either but he can compensate it due to height and strength. The best part of Dellavedova is his basketball skills. He is a very smart passer and a capable scorer. He knows how to attack a defense and exploit its weaknesses. He has a nice shot and he also has experience at the top level since he played for the Australian NT in London. I like that he grabbed 3.3 RPG in college and I think that this will translate as well due to his strength.

    Ok, here's my pick now:

    With the 58th pick of the NBA Draft, the San Antonio Spurs select Matthew Dellavedova from St. Mary's College of California.

    I already addressed the need for a big man in the first round. Furthermore, the Spurs don't seem to have a need in the wing position since Danny Green and Kawhi Leonard are under contract until the end of the 2014-2015 season. So, I went with a guard that seemed like the best fit.

    It's important to note that the Spurs have an established Australian connection due to Brett Brown who coached the Australian NT in the 2012 Olympics (Dellavedova participated in this team) and is now a San Antonio Spurs assistant coach. It's also important to note that the Australian NT run several Spurs play due to Coach Brown and thus Dellavedova is already acquainted with the Spurs system. There also two more Australians in the Spurs (Patty Mills and Aron Baynes).

    Plus, Gary Neal may not return so Dellavedova could fill in at the role of the back-up PG.

    Ultimately, Dellavedova seems like the ultimate Spurs pick.

    If I was the Spurs, I'd try to snatch two more picks in order to pick Arsalan Kazemi and Mindaugas Kupsas. They were one rebound away from being NBA champions so rebounding is still a big need. A guy like Kazemi that can defend both inside and outside and then hustle and snatch the important board would be perfect for them. Kupsas is an interesting player for the reasons I mentioned earlier and I'm sure that the Spurs would make good use of his talents.
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    Yeah, I thought of Kupsas too. Fat but huge and long. Not a total stiff. At this point of the draft, it makes sense to take a longshot stash project unless the team really loves someone else a lot. Other guys can be invited to the camp as undrafted free agents.

    I would've picked him here with the #59 if the draft went a bit differently. But considering the draft, I'm probably going Yugoslavian now.

    I'll pick in a few hours, a bit busy at the moment.

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    I would've picked him here with the #59 if the draft went a bit differently. But considering the draft, I'm probably going Yugoslavian now.
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    I like Dellavedova. Good player, solid point guard and has a nice shot
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    With the penultimate pick in the 2013 NBA draft, the Minnesota Timberwolves select:

    Marko Todorovic, PF/C from Montenegro

    What are people eating in Montenegro? The country has a population of only 600k, yet they produce an NBA big man prospect almost every year. Nikola Pekovic, Nikola Vucevic, Nikola Mirotic, Bojan Dubljevic, Marko Todorovic, all in the last several years, all 6'10 and bigger. Maybe Arvydas Sabonis or Vlade Divac took a few adventurous vacations in Montenegro 20-25 years ago?

    Anyway, Todorovic spent last season playing for Barcelona in Spain. He was successful in lower levels and international youth play, but he doesn't get big regular minutes for Barcelona yet. However, when he got an opportunity in the Euroleague Final Four this year (the match for the 3rd place vs. CSKA Moscow), he was the best big on the floor. Which is impressive for a 21 year old.

    Todorovic is a good mobile athlete, fundamentally sound for his age, boxes out, sets screens and plays with energy on both ends. There's positional flexibility, he's tall and long enough for a 5 but quick enough for a 4 and often plays at 4. He's not a bruiser and lacks strength right now when defending power 5s in the post. He somewhat compensates for it with quickness and long arms right now, but he'll need to get stronger for the NBA. He also has to work on his shot.

    But overall, I don't see an unfixable weakness in his game. He gets offensive boards and overall has been a good rebounder everywhere he played, blocks some shots, a very willing help defender. Offensively, he's a solid passer, can handle a little and drive, sets screens and rolls to the rim, draws fouls, scores off offensive boards, will chase a loose ball. And he's just active and smart. He will need a few years in Europe but I think he's an NBA player.

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    I was trying to think of a comp for Todorovic last night as i was typing but I couldn't think of one.

    A bit of Tyler Zeller, but Todorovic is a couple inches smaller. A better passer. Also, I'm not sure he'll be suitable at center in many matchups in the NBA. He'd be giving up an inch or two to most NBA centers, so it depends on how much strength he can add without losing the mobility that makes him good; he would need to be able to play more physical.

    But i think I found the comp that I like - Nick Collison. Similar size, length, mobility, similar types of game. Todorovic looks more athletic but overall I think that could be his NBA game.
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    I was trying to think of a comp for Todorovic last night as i was typing but I couldn't think of one.

    A bit of Tyler Zeller, but Todorovic is a couple inches smaller. A better passer. Also, I'm not sure he'll be suitable at center in many matchups in the NBA. He'd be giving up an inch or two to most NBA centers, so it depends on how much strength he can add without losing the mobility that makes him good; he would need to be able to play more physical.

    But i think I found the comp that I like - Nick Collison. Similar size, length, mobility, similar types of game. Todorovic looks more athletic but overall I think that could be his NBA game.
    Not a bad comp. Nick is an excellent player.
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    Memphis Grizzlies

    PG - Conley, Wroten, Siva (55)
    SG - Allen (U), Thomas (41)
    SF - Prince, Daye (QO), Pondexter
    PF - Randolph, Arthur
    C - Gasol, Davis, Lauer (QO)

    Here with this last pick, we will be looking for a developmental big most likely. Ryan Kelly is intriguing. He playes a smart game and would be more likely to contribute minutes to a playoff team than the other guys on this list. James Southerland is more SF, which we are loaded with contracts at that position. Colton Iverson and Zeke Marshall were the biggest guys in their conferences basically. Tough to know how either would translate. Decent skills, but need vast improvement to get minutes. Both improved their bodies significantly coming into this past season. Dewayne Dedmon is really raw, but the most athletic of all of these guys. He started playing basketball AFTER high school at JUCO/CC and transferred to USC. He has great touch and looks to dunk whenever he can. He needs a lot of technical skill building, but we find him very intriguing since his upside is huge. He has grown his game significantly in a short amount of time and we feel with better direction/teaching in the NBA he could be a real asset. Richard Howell lead Division I in total rebounds this year. He is a bit undersized at PF in the NBA, but he has very good strength, a solid work ethic, and a fantastic nose for the ball. He was second on the team in scoring and averaged 11 boards per game in the ACC. We did not feel as highly about his more touted teammates in Leslie and Brown. Brown would be a consideration here if we didn't draft Wroten last year, which would make Brown very redundant to our roster make-up. We think that Howell could transition into a very good defender at the PF position and not hurt the team offensively as he refines his game. His offensive game is already better than many similar NBA guys who've made careers of being undersized and tough. He would fit our culture of defense and rebounding in Memphis and that is why we are going to offer him our 15th roster spot as an undrafted FA. With this selection however we are going with the highest upside player available to us.

    With the 60th and final selection in the 2013 Pacers Digest Mock NBA Draft, the Memphis Grizzlies select Dewayne Dedmon, USC.
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    Adam Silver out.



    That was fun. And I got a chance to download a few college games and get to know some of these guys, otherwise I would've been too lazy.
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    I'm going after Arsalan Kazemi and Lorenzo Brown in UDFA.

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    I'm inviting Mr. "6 fouls" aka Colton Iverson.
    And inviting the agents of Nemanja Nedovic and Bojan Dubljevic to my mansion in Bahamas for the summer. Neither is ready for the NBA now but relationships won't hurt.

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    I can't believe we made it through all sixty picks - a Pacers Digest first! I want to thank everyone who made picks over the past couple weeks, but a special thanks is reserved for our mock commissioner, hackashaq, who somehow organized everything and everyone. Well done, sir!

    It'll be interesting to see how our mock stacks up to the real thing. Also, we'll have to revisit this thread in a few years to see how our draft stacks up to the BPA re-draft.

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    I'd try to go after Arsalan Kazemi as an UDFA earlier than Pacersalltheway10

    I will also go after Southerland (cannot believe he didn't get drafted), Kupsas and Oriakhi.
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    2 57 Phoenix Suns - Solomon Hill, SF, Arizona (BlueCollarColts)
    2nd round 57, heh. I guess we aren't thinking quite the way Donnie/Pritchard are...

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    It's not looking like we will have matched a single first round pick with the actual pick made.

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    We match at OKC i think (Adams). But this wasn't meant to be a predictions mock. Rather who they should pick.

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    We match at OKC i think (Adams). But this wasn't meant to be a predictions mock. Rather who they should pick.
    Ahh yeah we did, I missed that one. I understand that, but usually the picks at the top are relatively clear. Just speaks to the craziness of the top of this draft.

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