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5/24/2013 NBA Playoffs, Eastern Conference Finals - Game Thread #2: Pacers Vs. Heat

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  • 5/24/2013 NBA Playoffs, Eastern Conference Finals - Game Thread #2: Pacers Vs. Heat


    WITNESS THIS!


    -VS-



    Game Time Start: 8:30 PM ET
    Where: AmericanAirlines Arena, Miami, FL
    Officials: S. Foster, B. Kennedy, T. Washington, J. Goble

    Television:
    Radio: WFNI 1070 AM / WAXY 790 AM, WRTO 98.3 FM / ESPN Radio
    Media Notes: Indiana Notes, Miami Notes
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    0
    57-37
    Away: 21-26
    1
    74-17
    Home: 41-5
    May 26
    May 28
    May 30
    June 1
    8:30 PM
    8:30 PM
    8:30 PM
    8:30 PM
    HIBBERT
    WEST
    GEORGE
    STEPHENSON
    HILL
    BOSH
    DJANGO
    JAMES
    WADE
    CHALMERS


    PACERS
    Danny Granger - left knee surgery (out)



    HEAT
    Mario Chalmers - deep shoulder bruise (probable)




    Brett Koremenos: In Defense of Frank Vogel

    While there are countless plays that helped decide Game 1, the debate will surround
    Frank Vogel’s decision to leave Roy Hibbert out on the last play of overtime, a choice
    that was second-guessed almost right as game-winning layup by LeBron James cleared
    the net.

    Most of the criticism was based off a simple knee-jerk reaction from the result of the play
    — a James finish at the rim without Hibbert, the Pacers defensive anchor and paint-
    protector, anywhere to be found on the floor. Had Hibbert been on the court, or so the
    theory goes, he could have harassed James into altering his shot to the point of a miss,
    thus allowing Indiana to escape with a crucial Game 1 victory.

    The reality of the situation is that not only would Hibbert’s presence be unlikely to change
    anything, it would have probably made Miami’s job of getting a clean look for a game-
    winning shot far easier. In order not to repeat myself in two different places, here is what
    I wrote on Grantland about how time, score and situation dictate strategy in the waning
    moments of close games.
    With 2.2 seconds on the clock and Miami inbounding on the side, Hibbert’s
    value as a rim-protector was virtually useless. Nearly every time in that
    situation, the opponent’s play will call for some type of quick catch-and-
    shoot as any type of somewhat competent defense will deny the
    opportunity for a drive, and the scant time left on the clock makes any
    pass — other than the initial one from the inbounder — a dicey proposition.

    Any good coach, which Vogel is, is going to realize that the opposing team
    is very likely to run several off-the-ball screening combinations before the
    ball is even inbounded. The best way to counter that from a defensive
    perspective is to switch everything, because switching defenses are
    typically only bested by teams isolating against mismatches or slipping
    their screens. There wasn’t enough time for Miami to do the former, and
    the latter can be stopped with a potent combination of execution and
    communication.

    Now, with that in mind, let’s take a look at Miami’s final possession. We’ll break down
    exactly what actually did happen, while also projecting the challenges Indiana would
    have faced should Hibbert have been on the floor.


    Here is the initial positioning before the play begins.

    As the ball is being taken out on the side, David West (who plays a key role in the
    outcome) is guarding the inbounder, Shane Battier. Paul George is on James, Tyler
    Hansbrough covers Chris Bosh, Sam Young guards Ray Allen, and George Hill is checking
    Norris Cole. (Notice that Dwyane Wade, like Hibbert, isn’t on the court because he fouled
    out.)


    Allen starts everything off by moving to set a backscreen on Bosh to trigger a lob.
    Because Vogel has players on the floor that can easily switch everything, Hansbrough
    and Young thwart an action that would typically be quite difficult to defend. Had Hibbert
    been in the game, he would have had one of two choices: switch onto Allen or navigate
    a backscreen (remember that Roy is not the most nimble dude around) with little to no
    help from Young, who presumably would be very worried about the sweet-shooting
    Allen releasing from the screen and getting a wide-open shot. This is exactly why
    Hibbert wasn’t in the game.

    Erik Spoelstra knew that Hibbert would have a hard time getting through screens so he
    drew up a play with a first option that involved both his best shooter (Allen) screening
    for the player he presumed would be guarded by Hibbert (Bosh).


    After setting the screen, Allen loops around James toward the left corner as Bosh floats
    into the right short corner. Take note of West’s positioning on Battier. Instead of trying
    to make it incredibly difficult for Battier to target James, West is shading toward the
    cutting Allen, taking away a situation that not only has a much lower probability for
    producing a clean look, but allows for an infinitely easier entry pass into James.

    This is also the point where....CONTINUE READING AT 8p9s

    Brian Windhorst: George vs. LeBron - NBA's next great rivalry

    Paul George will never forget that moment in 2009 when, as a skinny 19-year-old, he
    found himself guarding the reigning NBA Most Valuable Player in a pickup game.

    Every year, LeBron James hosts the top high school players in the country at a Nike-
    sponsored camp. Many top college players are also there as “counselors.” In reality, it’s
    a recruitment fest for college coaches and a chance for Nike to develop ties with talent
    they one day may try to hire as endorsers.

    One of the highlights every year, both for the few spectators allowed in and certainly
    the young men themselves, is when James suits up and takes on the teenagers in pickup
    games. It’s common that he’ll bring some NBA friends to those games including, at times,
    fellow superstar Chris Paul.

    It was in one of these moments that George ended up not only fulfilling a dream by
    sharing the court with James but actually drawing the defensive assignment against him.
    After a good freshman season at Fresno State, George was invited to the camp and once
    there was given the wave over to the court where James was playing.

    “I like challenges and it was a challenge,” George said. “It was my first time playing
    against someone of his nature. It was fun. I took a lot away from it.”

    There was no way either of them realized back then that this was going to be the first
    of many showdowns.

    And it will indeed be many because, even if it may not be getting the proper attention
    now, James versus George is almost assured to be the newest great rivalry in the NBA.

    At age 28 and in his prime after winning his fourth MVP, James isn’t going anywhere. At
    age 23 off his first All-Star season and his first appearance on the All-NBA team, neither
    is George. They are already playing their second playoff series against each other and
    their teams both have aspirations of being back playing deep into the playoffs for the
    foreseeable future.

    In Wednesday’s Game 1 of the Eastern Conference finals, they traded off making huge
    plays for their teams in the fourth quarter and overtime. George had a brilliant three-
    point play driving right through James, then followed it up with a clutch 3-pointer over
    him at the end of regulation that forced overtime.

    James got him back by securing a crucial rebound in overtime by outleaping George.
    Then, in one of the biggest plays yet in the postseason, James burned George on the
    game’s final play by driving past him to the rim for the game-winning layup at the
    buzzer. George had taken a bad angle and James crushed the error, leaving George up
    thinking about the mistake until after 4 a.m.

    As satisfying as their Game 1 dueling performances were -- James had 30 points and
    George 27 -- it was just the preamble. Both in this series and in what figures to be
    years to come.

    They are already two of the best perimeter defenders in the league and they play the
    same position. That means they’re going to end up spending lots of time guarding each
    other in pressure situations in important games.

    “He’s going to be a great one,” James said. “I thought he had some unbelievable
    talent back [in 2009] when I met him. He went to a school that no one really paid
    attention to. But I’m one of those guys who stays up late at night and watches those
    games. I knew him.”

    James got the better of George...CONTINUE READING AT HEAT INDEX

    Ian Levy: Raindrops Keep Falling

    For the past 36 hours, criticism has been raining down on Frank Vogel and his decision to
    keep Roy Hibbert off the floor for the two final defensive possessions of Wednesday
    night’s loss to the Heat. That rain of criticism has also sprouted a veritable forest of
    Vogel defenders, arguing that the ability to switch everything on those possessions was
    imperative and thus necessitated gluing Hibbert to the bench. I’m assuming that anyone
    who finds their way to Hardwood Paroxysm early on a Friday morning already knows
    that both possessions resulted in layups for LeBron, securing their one point margin of
    victory. I’m also assuming that you’ve already read at least a handful of various opinions
    falling on both sides of the issue.

    The argument about whether Vogel properly evaluated the situation, weighed the
    variables and made the correct tactical decision is irreparably influenced by the results.
    Even in such a simple and brief situation, there were a hundred different scenarios that
    could have manifested, leaving the Pacers’ lead intact. If any of those had actually
    happened, criticism of Vogel’s decision would been rendered almost entirely moot. In that
    context it’s a little unfair that he’s under the microscope because Paul George overplayed
    LeBron so badly on the catch and that Sam Young volunteered no resistance to his layup
    attempt.

    If Hibbert had been on the floor he very well may have been unable to prevent a basket.
    LeBron had an angle, a head of steam and all the prerequisite finishing ability to lay that
    one in, regardless of who was in front of, or beside him. Even if Hibbert had been able
    to get his body between LeBron and the basket, dissuading him from a shot, he could
    have easily dumped it off to Bosh for 12-footer. Here’s the rub, those two outcomes are
    exactly what the Pacers’ defense is built on. If there’s going to be a shot at the rim,
    they’ll make it difficult. But if they can force you to take a mid-range jumper they’re
    even happier.

    But that’s neither here nor there. Evaluating the situation in either direction seems
    defensible to me, although the ultimate outcome lends more credence to the argument
    for keeping Hibbert on the floor. I think arguing this point misses the main issue – I’m
    not sure Vogel should have been deciding based on the exact confines of this situation.
    If that statement feels ludicrous to read, trust me, it feels just as ludicrous to type.

    By looking at that scenario and making a decision on just what lay in front of him, Vogel
    forced the Pacers away from their principles. Not their micro X’s-and-O’s principles, but
    their macro ‘this-is-how-we-do-business’ principles. All season long the Pacers’ defense
    has been playing the percentages. They make opponents to take tough shots and they
    live with the results. They survive miraculous makes because they know that in the long
    run the percentages will settle in their favor. However he evaluated the X’s-and-O’s,
    Vogel’s option to adjust for the Heat went counter to how the Pacers have approached
    nearly every opponent all season long.

    It may be somewhat obtuse and short-sighted for me to suggest ignoring the very real
    demands of a specific situation in pursuit of higher, over-arching ideals. But that’s
    precisely what...CONTINUE READING AT HARDWOOD PAROXYSM

    Kirk Goldsberry: CourtVision - Roy Hibbert, the Protector

    Pacers coach Frank Vogel’s decision to sit Roy Hibbert for the last defensive possession
    of Game 1 of the Eastern Conference finals was perhaps the most infamous substitution
    in NBA playoff history. Immediately after LeBron James’s left-handed layup in overtime
    ended that amazing game, the hoops Twittersphere began second-guessing Vogel’s late
    -game tactics; many were quick to criticize his final lineup and that gaping, Hibbert-
    shaped hole in the restricted area.

    The Heat needed two points in two seconds, a tall task for any basketball team.
    Fortunately for Miami, it had LeBron James on the roster, and the most efficient shot in
    the entire NBA this season
    was a LeBron James close-range shot. During the regular
    season, James made a staggering 72 percent of his 637 close-range attempts. If Miami
    could find some way to get James a shot near the basket, it would have a decent
    chance of winning the game.


    That's exactly what Miami did, and the game-winning shot looked a lot like the exact
    kind of shot that Hibbert is paid max money to stop, something James is probably
    aware of
    .

    Indiana's fifth-year center is one of the best rim protectors on the planet, and one of a
    select few human beings who can effectively discourage and disrupt the most ferocious
    interior scorers in the NBA. At the very least, the presence of Hibbert near the basket
    could have deterred or disrupted a close-range buzzer-beater. Just ask Carmelo.

    When Indiana signed Hibbert to a max deal last summer, many NBA observers
    questioned the decision. From a statistical point of view, Hibbert’s numbers seemed
    more ordinary than elite. Beyond the statistics, he lacked the Q Score that usually goes
    along with the league’s highest-paid superstars. But here we are 10 months later and
    Hibbert has his team in the NBA’s final four, and he is a major reason for Indiana's
    reputation as one of the best defenses in the league. For those who value both sides of
    the basketball court, he has more than proven his worth.

    In our SportsCenter culture, which loves to watch and rewatch dunks, corner 3s, and
    buzzer-beaters, it’s easy to distort basketball value. When it comes to assessing on-
    court performance, a vast majority of influential basketball actions aren't compatible
    with either highlights or box scores. Things like deflected passes, altered shots,
    prevented shots, perfect defensive rotations, and impeccable screens go largely
    unnoticed by the masses, undocumented by the highlight shows, and undermeasured
    by even the nerdiest basketball bookkeepers. As a result, our spreadsheets are
    missing a bunch of meaningful columns, and in turn even our most advanced player
    evaluations are incomplete.

    The inability to justify Hibbert’s contract with our current stats says more about our
    current stats than it does about Hibbert’s value.

    I talked with Hibbert about interior defense on Thursday, the day after Indiana’s
    heartbreaking Game 1 loss in Miami. He told me he finds that blocked shots — the stat
    that most of us cite when discussing players like him — tell only part of the story.
    Hibbert thinks he influences more than just the shots he blocks: “There are a lot of
    shots that I don’t block, but I change shots, and obviously people don’t take that into
    account. It might not show up in the box score, but people around my team know what
    I bring.”

    Blocked shots are easy to detect and convenient to count, but they reveal only so much
    about a defensive performance. Hibbert had five blocks in Game 6 of the Knicks series,
    but what does that actually tell us? On a literal level, his hands interrupted the flight of
    five field goal attempts. So what? Aside from that insane block of Anthony, how many
    other shots did he prevent from even happening? How many possessions did he
    change? Surely, his presence influenced more than five shots during the game, but it’s
    that “5” in the box score that serves as the quantification for defensive contribution.

    This season the Pacers defense, with Hibbert as its anchor, held opponents to 96.6
    points per 100 possessions, the lowest mark in the league. It’s no coincidence that it
    also protected the basket better than anybody. Indiana was the only team whose
    opponents missed more close-range shots than they made. On average, Indiana's
    opponents shot just 49 percent within 8 feet of the basket, well below the league
    average of 56 percent. A lot of this has to do with Hibbert.

    Using emerging types of performance data, we can evaluate interior defense in new
    ways. Player-tracking systems, like the SportVU system currently installed in 15 NBA
    arenas, enable a much richer perspective than the conventional mode of simply
    summing up disparate event types like blocked shots. While Hibbert finished third in
    blocks per game this season, averaging 2.5, an analysis of his defense using SportVU
    data reveals that his influence is far more profound.

    Hibbert significantly reduces his opponents' overall scoring efficiency on a nightly basis.
    I evaluated a set of thousands of NBA close-range shots in which an NBA big man was
    protecting the basket. These were shots from the 2012-13 regular season in which a
    qualifying interior defender was within 5 feet of the rim and also within 5 feet of the
    shot location.

    In such cases, the opponents made 48 percent of their shots. When Hibbert was
    protecting the basket, however, the number dropped to 38 percent. Only one player in
    the NBA reduced close-range shooting efficiency more than Hibbert; of course, that was
    LARRY SANDERS!, who held opponents to a ghastly 32 percent. For context, both Marc
    Gasol and Tyson Chandler — the last two winners of the NBA Defensive Player of the
    Year Award — held opponents to a respectable 44 percent.




    When Hibbert is protecting the basket, opponents’ close-range shots go in about as
    much as an average NBA midrange shot. This is incredible. If we’re not factoring in this
    kind of precipitous drop in opponents’ scoring efficiency when Hibbert is protecting the
    rim (which we're not), then we’re not doing a good job assessing his impact or value as
    an NBA player.

    Hibbert told me that since entering the NBA he’s become more disciplined: “When I was
    a rookie, I tried to block everything. I led the league in fouls per minute. Since then I’ve
    learned verticality, and that’s one thing that helps me both protect the paint and stay in
    the game as well.”

    Earlier in the season...CONTINUE READING AT GRANTLAND

    Dan Devine: Shane Battier and Norris Cole go below the belt on Pacers

    The ending of Game 1 probably left quite a number of Indiana Pacers fans feeling like
    they'd been on the business end of a low blow. Well, at least they had a couple of
    frontcourt stars to share the pain — namely, center Roy Hibbert (thanks to Miami Heat
    forward Shane Battier):


    ... and power forward David West (thanks to Heat guard Norris Cole):


    Credit Heat coach Erik Spoelstra for recognizing a play that worked early in the game,
    then circling back to it later...CONTINUE READING AT BALL DON'T LIE




    PACERS
    Mike Wells @MikeWellsNBA
    Jared Wade @8pts9secs
    Tim Donahue @TimDonahue8p9s
    Tom Lewis @indycornrows
    Ian Levy @HickoryHigh
    Miss Bumptious @missbumptious


    HEAT
    Brian Windhorst @windhorstESPN
    Tom Haberstroh @tomhaberstroh
    Ira Winderman @iraheatbeat
    Ethan J. Skolnick @EthanJSkolnick
    Surya Fernandez @SuryaHeatNBA
    Joseph Goodman @JoeGoodmanJr
    This is the darkest timeline.

  • #2
    Re: 5/24/2013 NBA Playoffs, Eastern Conference Finals - Game Thread #2: Pacers Vs. Heat

    I am still really disappointed about the outcome of game 1, makes me sick thinking we had a chance. West blew 2 FT's to start OT, Lance missing the 3, West missing the floater with no one on him, PG overplaying Lebron. I'm just so sad, that game was huge......hoping game 2 take cares of this though and we come out tonight tied 1-1

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    • #3
      Re: 5/24/2013 NBA Playoffs, Eastern Conference Finals - Game Thread #2: Pacers Vs. Heat

      We win the rebounding battle, PG has another solid game along with West. Hibbert plays great with a double double or more. Lance and Hill are factors on the offensive end tonight and the bench steps up for a tough road win to tie the series at 1-1
      Smothered Chicken!

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      • #4
        Re: 5/24/2013 NBA Playoffs, Eastern Conference Finals - Game Thread #2: Pacers Vs. Heat

        Must-win! Let's get it!

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        • #5
          Re: 5/24/2013 NBA Playoffs, Eastern Conference Finals - Game Thread #2: Pacers Vs. Heat

          I want to see the team come out fired up and prepared. Win this game and our chances in this series are good.

          For me, this is the biggest game of the season until the next one.

          Let's goooo, Pacers!!!

          Originally posted by IrishPacer
          Empty vessels make the most noise.

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          • #6
            Re: 5/24/2013 NBA Playoffs, Eastern Conference Finals - Game Thread #2: Pacers Vs. Heat

            Pacers need to make sure they get a balanced scoring attack from all 5 guys tonight. Miami is gonna focus on taking way either George or West in the 2nd half.
            You can't get champagne from a garden hose.

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            • #7
              Re: 5/24/2013 NBA Playoffs, Eastern Conference Finals - Game Thread #2: Pacers Vs. Heat

              The way we respond tonight will be telling. From everything the team is saying and doing we seem to have the right attitude. Man I can't wait for this game to start, I will be thinking about it all day...

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              • #8
                Re: 5/24/2013 NBA Playoffs, Eastern Conference Finals - Game Thread #2: Pacers Vs. Heat

                Paul George needs to attack the rim all game like he did the second half/overtime

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                • #9
                  Re: 5/24/2013 NBA Playoffs, Eastern Conference Finals - Game Thread #2: Pacers Vs. Heat

                  George Hill having a big first quarter could be absolutely crucial. Miami has to be forced to stay home one of our guards.


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                  • #10
                    Re: 5/24/2013 NBA Playoffs, Eastern Conference Finals - Game Thread #2: Pacers Vs. Heat

                    Nothing is worse than watching their fans celebrate while this plays in the background:

                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-mU-YSk32I

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                    • #11
                      Re: 5/24/2013 NBA Playoffs, Eastern Conference Finals - Game Thread #2: Pacers Vs. Heat

                      I was sick and angry for two days, but I've come to forget about game 1. Its a new day! If I could feel this way, then I know the Pacers intend to do nothing but battle and fight till the very end. I don't doubt that they expect to win tonight (NBA Players OBVIOUSLY are mentally tougher than most of us lol). Unfortunately, I have to DJ some ****ing party! I'll have my 2nd DJ Laptop with me to stream the game IDK How in the hell I'm going to pull off caring about the way the party is going more than I care about the way the game is going lol.

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                      • #12
                        Re: 5/24/2013 NBA Playoffs, Eastern Conference Finals - Game Thread #2: Pacers Vs. Heat

                        Originally posted by DJVendetta View Post
                        I was sick and angry for two days, but I've come to forget about game 1. Its a new day! If I could feel this way, then I know the Pacers intend to do nothing but battle and fight till the very end. I don't doubt that they expect to win tonight (NBA Players OBVIOUSLY are mentally tougher than most of us lol). Unfortunately, I have to DJ some ****ing party! I'll have my 2nd DJ Laptop with me to stream the game IDK How in the hell I'm going to pull off caring about the way the party is going more than I care about the way the game is going lol.
                        Oh man, good luck with that.

                        You live in Florida, right? I don't think that they're going to be happy if they learn that their DJ is rooting for the Pacers

                        In any case, give them hell, mate
                        Originally posted by IrishPacer
                        Empty vessels make the most noise.

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                        • #13
                          Re: 5/24/2013 NBA Playoffs, Eastern Conference Finals - Game Thread #2: Pacers Vs. Heat

                          Originally posted by DJVendetta View Post
                          I was sick and angry for two days, but I've come to forget about game 1. Its a new day! If I could feel this way, then I know the Pacers intend to do nothing but battle and fight till the very end. I don't doubt that they expect to win tonight (NBA Players OBVIOUSLY are mentally tougher than most of us lol). Unfortunately, I have to DJ some ****ing party! I'll have my 2nd DJ Laptop with me to stream the game IDK How in the hell I'm going to pull off caring about the way the party is going more than I care about the way the game is going lol.
                          haha I would assume u would be DJing far past when the game ends, if the Pacers win you should announce.

                          "And the winner of game 2 of the Eastern Conference Finals between the Miami Heat and the Indiana Pacers is YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUURRRRRRR...................... ......................................INDIANA PACERS!

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                          • #14
                            Re: 5/24/2013 NBA Playoffs, Eastern Conference Finals - Game Thread #2: Pacers Vs. Heat

                            Originally posted by DJVendetta View Post
                            I was sick and angry for two days, but I've come to forget about game 1. Its a new day! If I could feel this way, then I know the Pacers intend to do nothing but battle and fight till the very end. I don't doubt that they expect to win tonight (NBA Players OBVIOUSLY are mentally tougher than most of us lol). Unfortunately, I have to DJ some ****ing party! I'll have my 2nd DJ Laptop with me to stream the game IDK How in the hell I'm going to pull off caring about the way the party is going more than I care about the way the game is going lol.
                            So, you gonna cue up "All Gold Everything", a little "Reggie - You Rock!", and maybe a "NBA on NBC" remix?
                            BillS

                            A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.
                            Or throw in a first-round pick and flip it for a max-level point guard...

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                            • #15
                              Re: 5/24/2013 NBA Playoffs, Eastern Conference Finals - Game Thread #2: Pacers Vs. Heat

                              Hill needs to assert himself offensively. I want to see pull up floaters in the lane!

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