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    Bosh "stretching the floor" and shooting jumpers is going to be an issue, Pacers are probably going to need to play somebody else in Roy's place at times.
    or we could just put West on Bosh and have Hibbert guard Haslem

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    Hopefully Vogel learned his lesson from last year and will not play all 5 bench players at the same time against the Heat.
    we won't even play 5 bench players to begin with, and we have not done that at all this season, D.J. Augustin and Tyler Hansbrough will get big minutes, and Sam Young and Ian Mahinmi will get spot minutes

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    Well yeah, my point is that if Bosh is burning us with his 3 point shooting and "floor stretching" something is gonna have to be done, hopefully that doesn't happen but is a thing to consider.
    I think that is pretty far down the list of concerns for the Pacers, honestly.

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    Hopefully Vogel learned his lesson from last year and will not play all 5 bench players at the same time against the Heat.
    I think he did. I don't recall seeing a time in the playoffs when he has played 5 bench players at once. Usually at least one starter is out on the court with the reserves.

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    Well yeah, my point is that if Bosh is burning us with his 3 point shooting and "floor stretching" something is gonna have to be done, hopefully that doesn't happen but is a thing to consider.
    I think satan is the only person in the world who would attempt to employ a "5-out" strategy. Someone has to be down low for spacing and rebounding positioning. Put Hibbert on him.

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    I think satan is the only person in the world who would attempt to employ a "5-out" strategy. Someone has to be down low for spacing and rebounding positioning. Put Hibbert on him.
    Actually, a "5-out" is exactly what Miami does. For details, see below:

    http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/...ominate-league
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    Need a defensive stop? No problem, LeBron and Wade play passing lanes like bears catching salmon from the river.
    Wonderful analogy!!!!!!!

    How do we attract the bears away from the river? By "squeezing the orange" as we partake of the "low hanging fruit of the tree of penetration", as well as forcing the large angry one to come into the Hibbert trap where he should dominate baby bear Bosh.

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    I think that is pretty far down the list of concerns for the Pacers, honestly.
    I'm not sure about that, Bosh pulls Roy from the rim and we are in trouble.

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    Actually, a "5-out" is exactly what Miami does. For details, see below:

    http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/...ominate-league
    Then we absolutely punish them on offense for that, and still keep Roy down low. We force them to adjust to us.

    I'll take Bosh versus Roy, if that's what they want to do.

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    The player that worries me in this series is Bosh. He is their x-factor because his strength, mid-range shooting, is exactly what we give up to our opponents. Recall that our defense is designed to limit opportunities in the paint and to limit or at least heavily all shots behind the arc.

    So I believe some of the more important game points to be.

    1. Win the boards by a wide margin.
    2. Keep the Heat entirely off their offensive boards and rebound offensively ourselves.
    3. Have far fewer TOs than recent games.
    4. Find a way to limit Bosh's 12-18 foot shot opportunities.
    5. Attack Bosh to draw fouls.
    6. Penetrate against Wade. Let's test that knee and draw some fouls.
    7. Make more FTs than Miami attempts.

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    Why is this series starting Wednesday? It should start tomorrow.

    NBA trying very hard to get D-Wade more rest.

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    The player that worries me in this series is Bosh. He is their x-factor because his strength, mid-range shooting, is exactly what we give up to our opponents. Recall that our defense is designed to limit opportunities in the paint and to limit or at least heavily all shots behind the arc.

    So I believe some of the more important game points to be.

    1. Win the boards by a wide margin.
    2. Keep the Heat entirely off their offensive boards and rebound offensively ourselves.
    3. Have far fewer TOs than recent games.
    4. Find a way to limit Bosh's 12-18 foot shot opportunities.
    5. Attack Bosh to draw fouls.
    6. Penetrate against Wade. Let's test that knee and draw some fouls.
    7. Make more FTs than Miami attempts.
    Ray Allen plays terrible defense.

    Lance Stephenson better take advantage of him when hes on the court.

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    Then we absolutely punish them on offense for that, and still keep Roy down low. We force them to adjust to us.

    I'll take Bosh versus Roy, if that's what they want to do.
    There's no question that's what the Pacers will do. They have their identity as smashmouth team that does not go small under any circumstances. That's not going to change (plus the Pacers don't have the bench players to play small anyway).

    But Haslem does start, and plays the first 8 to 9 minutes of the first and third quarters (and that's it). Those will match up with West's minutes, so the Heat will be matched up big with the Pacers during those times. But there will be times when Battier or LeBron will be guarding West, and that will happen at crunch time. West has played well against Miami.

    The Heat only have 4 bigs on their entire 13 man roster, and only 3 who play.

    How did the Pacers match up in the regular season? Did Hibbert guard Haslem or Bosh?
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    Why is this series starting Wednesday? It should start tomorrow.

    NBA trying very hard to get D-Wade more rest.
    Had the NBA not forced George Hill to sit out Game 5 with a concussion, the series would have started tomorrow.
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    or we could just put West on Bosh and have Hibbert guard Haslem
    Haslem starts, but Battier typically gets more minutes than him.

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    I think we learned some lessons from last year against the heat.

    1.Our bench sucked - we tried with marginal success to remedy that.

    2.Roy had trouble staying on the court.
    I think the league has changed a little bit in our favor. The whole "flopping rule" for example. Also as Roy mentioned he has drilled and drilled going straight up.
    He'll still be in trouble some - but he's going to give THEM a lot of trouble.

    3.We couldn't pass into the post worth crap. I complained about that all last season and the inability to pass over the fronting D against Miami just made me grind my teeth to powder. I saw improvement in this area right away this season, and have little doubt that we will see improvement in this area.

    Can we beat them? Yes.
    In spite of LaPunk's assertions the Heat are not a "great team".

    Will we? I don't know. I felt better about it awhile ago.

    The turnovers scare the crap out of me.
    DWest inside has to somewhat equal Bosh's outside.
    Lance has to hold his own against a future Hall of Famer.
    The refs have to let us play D and not be sucked in by all that flopping non-sense.
    PG has to D up against a very strong and capable scorer and still have something left on the other side.

    Be strong.
    OWN the paint.
    Don't back down or wilt.
    Keep composed.
    Make them play our game. Stifle and frustrate them.

    Let's get one down there and then ride it out.

    It should be exciting at least.
    I hope we pull it off. I don't like the way they were built, the arrogance they exude, the nut hugging "respect" they get - from the press (and especially the zebras).

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    Our balance will triumph, Pacers in 6!

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    The Avenge-cers. Let's go.
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    Be strong.
    OWN the paint.
    Don't back down or wilt.
    Keep composed.
    Make them play our game. Stifle and frustrate them.
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    I think the biggest key is game pace. Play fast and the Pacers have more turnovers and get Miami's running game going.
    Play a very deliberate pace and grind the Heat into dust and have a chance to win the series.
    Continue to play one on one defense primarily. If you do not the three's will start raining down on the Pacers. Much like the Knicks.
    Knicks have a better center but the Heat have a better Carmelo.
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    Why doesnt Hibbert guard Haslem and West guard Bosh? Allows Hibbert to stay closer to the basket. Haslem's got some range but not to the 3 point line like Bosh.

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    last time the ravens went to the super bowl? 2000. last time pacers went to the finals? 2000! heck even a parallel can be given to the ravens and pacers with the whole defense and like the pacers everyone was counting them out in the post season cause of the way they limped into the playoffs and lost a spot in the seeding...maybe just maybe the pacers can catch lightning in a bottle like the ravens did this year.

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    Whenever I breakdown a series I always start with defense, I always suggest that the pacers defense is the key to a series. Not against the heat though. I assume the Pacers defense will be good, if they can keep the Heat in the halfcourt, if the heat are playing 5 on 5, I am not worried.

    For the pacers to beat the Heat however, the pacers offense cannot turn the ball over - actually as Quinn likes to point out the key is to really limit the live turnovers. If we turn the ball over and the heat take the ball out - not a big problem, if we turn it over and the Heat can run it back at us - huge problem.

    Beyond that the pacers need to be able to score consistantly throughout the game. But this isn't the Knicks. The heat will front the post - pacers will likely have a very hard time getting the ball inside to Roy and West. The Heat try to keep the ball out of the low post instead of trying to be ready to defend once the ball is in the loow post. So our ability to beat the fronting will be a huge key to this series.

    Fronting can open up offensive rebounding, also can open up driving lanes to the basket.

    One thing I do want to mention for our defense. One huge difference between the Knicks and heat. Heat will make Hibbert guard Bosh. Knicks were never able to get Hibbert to guard his own man. And that is the ley to limiting Roy's impact on defense

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    or we could just put West on Bosh and have Hibbert guard Haslem
    That's going to happen when the Heat play Haslem and Birdman.

    But what do we do when they play Battier / LeBron / Bosh at the frontcourt?
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