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    5/16/2013 NBA Playoffs, Second Round - Game Thread #5: Pacers Vs. Knicks


    FICKS THE KNICKS


    -VS-


    Game Time Start: 8:00 PM ET
    Where: Madison Square Garden, New York, NY
    Officials: S. Foster, J. Goble, B. Kennedy, L. Wood

    Television:
    Radio: WFNI 1070 AM / WEPN 98.7 FM
    Media Notes: Indiana Notes, New York Notes
    NBA Feeds:

    REMINDER: Per PD policy, please do not share a link to, describe how to search for, request a link to, or request a PM about streaming video of a NBA game that is not coming directly through the NBA. Not even in a "wink-wink, nudge-nudge, know-what-I-mean" round-about sort of way. Thank you


    3
    56-35
    Away: 21-24
    1
    59-33
    Home: 34-12
    May 18
    May 20
    8:00 PM
    8:00 PM
    HIBBERT
    WEST
    GEORGE
    STEPHENSON
    HILL
    CHANDLER
    ANTHONY
    SHUMPERT
    FELTON
    PRIGIONI


    PACERS
    Danny Granger - left knee surgery (out)



    KNICKS
    No injuries to report




    Jared Wade: Indiana Wins Easily, Buries New York in a 3-1 Series Hole

    It’s 3-1 and the Pacers just embarrassed the Knicks in Indiana. This is a 1990s’ fan dream.

    What’s most remarkable about this team — other than its best-in-the-world defense — is
    that it really doesn’t need to rely on anyone to score. David West has been an shot-
    making no show the past two games, but it has not mattered. Instead of him getting his
    normal number of points, George Hill just ups his scoring load and D.J. Augustin has
    another nice night off the bench.

    It stands out even more next to the Knicks, which need Carmelo and J.R. Smith to put up
    points so badly. When you fill a roster with so many old people and non-scorers, that’s
    just what happens.

    The Pacers, on the other hand, haven’t sacrificed an ability to score to create this
    defense. Neither Hill nor Roy Hibbert is someone who is going to score a ton of points
    every night, but Games 3 and 4 have showed that they are more than capable of going
    on an outburst. As for the actual break down of Indiana’s Game 4, it was all kicked off by
    another great start. They were getting buckets right out of the gate and New York was
    not. It was 11-3 less than five minutes in, and the Knicks were in disarray, missing the
    same midrange looks they have been settling for all series. The Pacers, when they got a
    shot up, were successful. But they turned the ball over too much — way too much — to
    turn this into a laugher early.

    Instead, they did something more impressive: Maintain a 10-ish-point lead for the entire
    game.

    They never had any prolonged stretch of total drought, scoring baskets at a fairly regular
    clip throughout. And they kept New York frustrated and out of sorts. Carmelo Anthony hit
    a shot every so often that made you think that the Knicks would be roaring back, but it
    never happened. The slow-and-steady tortoise just maintained the lead.

    Hill was huge in the third. This can’t be overstated.

    The offense didn’t look great otherwise and the Knicks were getting points more easily.
    They still shot the same 35% that, I guess, is just the rate that they make shots against
    this Pacers’ defense now, but they got to the line and took 10 of their 20 shots within five
    feet of the rim. Meanwhile, Indiana shot no better, hitting just 7-of-19 shots (36.8%). In
    all, Hill made 5 of his team’s 7 third-quarter field goals while scoring 14 of its 19 points.

    Without him — the hometown kid who was committed to getting to the bucket while
    looking as determined to score as I’ve ever seen him — the Pacers may have surrendered
    a good portion of that lead. That was a 19-point quarter that at other times in this year,
    when no individual has stepped up, may have been a 12-point quarter. And, then, if the
    Knicks had entered the fourth quarter down just 4 instead of down 11, who knows what
    happens? Maybe Carmelo takes over and these teams are headed back to New York
    knotted up?

    But that didn’t happen.

    George Hill didn’t let it...CONTINUE READING AT 8p9s

    Tom Ziller: J.R. Smith had a dream

    Smith is shooting as frequently as ever in the 2013 NBA Playoffs. He's also missing
    as frequently as ever.

    J.R. Smith has had one helluva weird season. He won the Sixth Man of the Year award
    and now he's shooting the Knicks right out of the postseason. After Tuesday night's
    disaster in Indianapolis, Smith is 18-64 in the second round. 28 percent.

    But he's not letting the misses cut into his confidence. On Tuesday, Smith used 38
    percent of the Knicks' possessions while on the court. That came out to 26 possessions
    (shots and turnovers) in 31 minutes. That's crazy! (Carmelo Anthony used 28 in 40
    minutes.)

    Smith's trigger finger has been getting looser as the season has gone on. Excepting an
    explosion over a few games early in the season, Smith is now shooting more than he
    has all year. His efficiency indicates that he should probably consider dialing it back
    significantly.

    Here's a chart!


    Each point along the way shows Smith's shots per 36 minutes, or True Shooting
    percentage, for the season to date. Smith is now at his highest point of the season for
    shooting frequency. The same cannot be said for his shooting efficiency, though he's
    also not the worst he's been all year. (He had a couple of rough troughs, the latest of
    which corresponded with that incredible spike in frequency. That lag between increased
    efficiency and increased frequency is pretty hilarious.)

    Shot creation is valuable at some level, but it's hard to make the case that Smith is
    creating value for the Knicks by firing up shot after shot. On the one hand, previous
    Knicks playoff teams really could have used a J.R. -- let us not forget Jared Jeffries'
    crunch time possessions. On the other, Smith's efficiency is bad and worsening, and he's
    increasing his already spectacularly high shooting frequency. It makes no sense.

    To us, that is. It makes perfect sense to J.R. Smith.

    Paul Flannery: Paul George, Roy Hibbert and the Indiana Pacers are happening

    After a decade in limbo, the Pacers are here.

    Paul George is a 23-year-old guilt-free pleasure. He’s a spectacular open-court player
    who has put in the work to become a multi-faceted scorer, yet he doesn’t let that define
    him. Blessed with an abundance of natural talent, he plays like defense like a young
    Scottie Pippen*, and comes across as a genuinely good dude who cares about winning
    first and foremost.

    *That was coach Frank Vogel’s comparison earlier this year when the Pacers made it
    through Boston. Pippen’s an all-timer and he shouldn’t be name-dropped with just
    anyone, but George has the tools and is already recognized as one of the game’s top
    perimeter defenders so it’s not that outlandish a statement.

    George’s one sin this season was trying too hard to replace Danny Granger, who missed
    most of the year with a knee injury. Once George grew comfortable in his new role he
    turned into a legitimate All-Star performer in just his third season.

    His shooting has suffered a bit in the postseason, but he’s made up for it by becoming a
    better playmaker and concentrating on defense. In other words, George is mastering
    the art of contributing when he’s not scoring. There is almost nothing not to like about
    him and if he played in a major media market he’d be approaching supernova status.

    Roy Hibbert is the occasionally awkward force of nature in the middle of Indiana’s
    vaunted defense. Like Marc Gasol in Memphis, he impacts the game by forcing teams
    into not doing the things they want to do. He’s become adept at giving just enough
    ground on drives and using his long reach to turns layups into bricks without
    committing fouls.

    His offensive game is rudimentary with lots of put-backs and tips augmented by an old-
    school sweeping hook shot and a stationary "jumper." After a difficult regular season,
    he’s back to making almost 50 percent of his shots.

    Like George, he struggled early with the added weight of expectations; Hibbert's were
    brought on by a new contract. He’s since realized what he can do and what he can’t,
    which puts him ahead of the curve. He’s also goofy enough to consider wearing a
    monocle to a podium appearance.

    Rounding out the core is David West, a no-nonsense veteran who exudes toughness the
    way Charles Oakley used to own it. He’s more skilled than Oak and not quite as rough
    around the edges, but no one takes liberties when West is on the court. He’s the grown-
    up conscience of the locker room who counseled both George and Hibbert through their
    struggles while putting together one of his finest all-around seasons.

    The introductions are necessary because the Pacers stand one game away from a trip
    to the conference finals for the first time in almost a decade after beating the Knicks
    93-82 in Game 4 Tuesday night. They existed in near-anonymity and rarely appeared
    on national television during the regular season. Their first-round series with the
    Hawks was an afterthought, the very definition of the NBA TV series. That they are
    often conventionally boring and lack the starpower of teams like New York and Miami
    has put them further on the league’s back burner.

    But this is happening and they are for real...CONTINUE READING AT SB NATION

    Lang Whitaker: Online Gold - The Reggie Miller Show

    Last night on “Inside the NBA,” we saw a brief clip of an appearance Charles Barkley once
    made on a program called “The Reggie Miller Show.” The guys on “Inside” used this as a
    jumping off point to pick on Chuck, but the clip got me curious about “The Reggie Miller
    Show.” I started googling and found there was not a lot of information about this program
    on the internet. Buried in a 1991 Sports Illustrated profile of Miller, I found this...
    Miller’s newfound popularity in Indianapolis comes, in part, from a weekly bit
    on WFBQ-95 FM during morning drive time that is one of the highest-rated radio
    shows in the country in its time slot and for its market size. And there also is
    the Reggie Miller Show, which is entering its third season and possibly moving
    soon from cable TV to the Fox network. About once a week after the NBA
    season starts, Miller will skitter down a wrought-iron spiral staircase, greet
    200 woofing teenagers and tip off a half-hour program that deals with
    everything from sex to drugs to pick-and-rolls. Celebrity guests have ranged
    from Larry Bird to the New Kids on the Block, but the show also examines
    tough issues, with Miller asking questions and working his knee-high
    audience with the authority of an Oprah or a Phil.

    The story also notes that Miller was interested in doing the show because it served an
    altruistic purpose...
    At times, the show can be moving. A 16-year-old girl once told how she had
    slugged down five beers at lunch and then crashed her car into a sedan with a
    family of four, killing the mother. The image of her crying as she told her story
    stayed with Miller for weeks. “If that helped one person in the audience or at
    home, then that’s one less person I have to worry about—because I worry
    about them,” he says. “The show is for them; it’s not for me. The kids come
    to learn the topic. And to see all of them out there looking up at the stage
    and paying attention and raising their hands, asking questions, I like that.”

    This sounds like a truly interesting show, and it’s too bad the show does not exist online.

    Wait, what? Oh right, I didn’t try actually searching YouTube for this show. Because then
    I did, and look what turned up: REGGIE MILLER SHOW 1. That’s right, there’s an entire
    episode of “The Reggie Miller Show” on YouTube.

    If you’ve ever wanted to see Reggie Miller and Conan O’Brien play charades, this is the
    show for you! Aside from VHS tracking issues — something you digital kids out there
    might not be familiar with — the show’s in good shape (complete with local ads!). The
    show is announced by famous “Saturday Night Live” emcee Don Pardo, and house band
    Alligator Brothers keep things moving throughout.

    As I mentioned earlier, Reggie’s guest on this episode is his future Turner co-worker
    Conan O’Brien, who is introduced replete with marching bagpipes. Their discussion
    touches on everything from the attractiveness of late night talk show hosts to Conan’s
    workout routine.

    BTW, my favorite moment might be when a kid from the audience asks Conan, “Why
    would you come all the way out here and see Reggie’s show?” (Conan’s response,
    “Well, that’s a terrible question.”).




    Pacers
    Mike Wells @MikeWellsNBA
    Jared Wade @8pts9secs
    Tim Donahue @TimDonahue8p9s
    Tom Lewis @indycornrows


    Knicks
    Frank Isola @FisolaNYDN
    Alan Hahn @alanhahn
    netw3rk @netw3rk
    Mike Kurylo @KnickerBlogger
    Last edited by avoidingtheclowns; 05-16-2013, 12:39 PM.
    This is the darkest timeline.
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  • #2
    Re: 5/16/2013 NBA Playoffs, Second Round - Game Thread #5: Pacers Vs. Knicks

    Originally posted by SB Nation
    Of all the pseudo contenders in the East, the Pacers are the one team still on the upward trajectory.
    Damning with faint praise there.
    BillS

    A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.
    Or throw in a first-round pick and flip it for a max-level point guard...

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    • #3
      Re: 5/16/2013 NBA Playoffs, Second Round - Game Thread #5: Pacers Vs. Knicks

      Time to rock them to sleep tonight......
      Larry Bird and Ryan Grigson- wasting the talents of Paul George and Andrew Luck

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      • #4
        Re: 5/16/2013 NBA Playoffs, Second Round - Game Thread #5: Pacers Vs. Knicks

        I made the mistake of telling my roommate she could have people over for The Office finale a long time ago... I will be watching this on the ScoreCenter app pn my phone.

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        • #5
          Re: 5/16/2013 NBA Playoffs, Second Round - Game Thread #5: Pacers Vs. Knicks

          The Knicks look like a team that wants to fold so bad right now. If Indy can level them with a big punch in the 1st quarter, this thing is over.

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          • #6
            Re: 5/16/2013 NBA Playoffs, Second Round - Game Thread #5: Pacers Vs. Knicks

            If the Pacers start fast, this game could be over quickly
            Smothered Chicken!

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            • #7
              Re: 5/16/2013 NBA Playoffs, Second Round - Game Thread #5: Pacers Vs. Knicks

              Here's hoping we can end it tonight!

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              • #8
                Re: 5/16/2013 NBA Playoffs, Second Round - Game Thread #5: Pacers Vs. Knicks

                Purely as a fan this sort of feels like before game #2. it would be great to win, but if we don't we can win the next game at home. Obviously I hope the players don't have that attitude

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                • #9
                  Re: 5/16/2013 NBA Playoffs, Second Round - Game Thread #5: Pacers Vs. Knicks

                  Originally posted by Mac_Daddy View Post
                  I made the mistake of telling my roommate she could have people over for The Office finale a long time ago... I will be watching this on the ScoreCenter app pn my phone.
                  Go find someplace to watch the game, watch the Office on Hulu tomorrow.

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                  • #10
                    Re: 5/16/2013 NBA Playoffs, Second Round - Game Thread #5: Pacers Vs. Knicks

                    Let's make sure if we DO hit them early we make sure not to let them back in the game like the Heat did the Bulls last night. Hit em early, keep hitting em, rest up for the Heat in the second half.

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                    • #11
                      Re: 5/16/2013 NBA Playoffs, Second Round - Game Thread #5: Pacers Vs. Knicks

                      Originally posted by Hicks View Post
                      Go find someplace to watch the game, watch the Office on Hulu tomorrow.
                      I second that. Keeping up to date on your phone would be terrible, especially the ESPN app? I thought all it did was show Heat highlights
                      Super Bowl XLI Champions
                      2000 Eastern Conference Champions




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                      • #12
                        Re: 5/16/2013 NBA Playoffs, Second Round - Game Thread #5: Pacers Vs. Knicks

                        I have a meeting tonight and am not planning to even follow the score on my IPad. Too much stress. I suppose I could post my thoughts on what we need to do but nothing's changed from what I threw out before the last 4 games.

                        I still think we'll win tonight which will actually work out well for you if you close it Saturday at home - street party starting at around 11 p.m., right?
                        The poster formerly known as Rimfire

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                        • #13
                          Re: 5/16/2013 NBA Playoffs, Second Round - Game Thread #5: Pacers Vs. Knicks

                          Originally posted by Mac_Daddy View Post
                          I made the mistake of telling my roommate she could have people over for The Office finale a long time ago... I will be watching this on the ScoreCenter app pn my phone.
                          Hopefully you get something in return :eyebrows: /creeper /sorryimnotsorry


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                          • #14
                            Re: 5/16/2013 NBA Playoffs, Second Round - Game Thread #5: Pacers Vs. Knicks

                            Originally posted by Mac_Daddy View Post
                            I made the mistake of telling my roommate she could have people over for The Office finale a long time ago... I will be watching this on the ScoreCenter app pn my phone.
                            the game should be streaming on tnt overtime if you have a computer available.

                            edit: just checked, it is
                            Last edited by focused444; 05-16-2013, 02:23 PM.

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                            • #15
                              Re: 5/16/2013 NBA Playoffs, Second Round - Game Thread #5: Pacers Vs. Knicks

                              FICKS THE KNICKS
                              How about "Fick the Knucks"?

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