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    Ford talks of trading Spree and Cassel to Pacers

    By Chad Ford
    ESPN Insider
    Moves made in desperation rarely turn into something good.
    Last year in Minnesota, VP of basketball operations Kevin McHale's extreme
    makeover of the Timberwolves almost proved to be the exception.
    When McHale added four talented players known more for their off-court
    behavior than what they do on the court – Latrell Sprewell, Sam Cassell, Troy
    Hudson and Michael Olowokandi – the conventional wisdom read something
    like this: If they start winning early, they're as dangerous as any team in the NBA. If they stumble out of the gate, call in the riot squad.
    The 2003-04 Timberwolves started off hot and went on to record the best
    mark in the Western Conference last season. The team ended a seven-year
    streak of getting ousted in the first round of the playoffs, and the newcomers
    took the Timberwolves within two games of the NBA Finals.
    This year, things couldn't be more different. The 16-12 Timberwolves have
    lost six of their last nine games, including head-scratchers to the Raptors and
    Bulls. Now, just one year after the glorious honeymoon, everyone involved is
    looking for the divorce court.
    Cassell and Sprewell didn't show up to camp, demanding lucrative long-term
    extensions for their services in 2003. When owner Glen Taylor refused, the
    pouting and the selfishness crept onto the floor. The latest incident had
    Hudson complaining about his playing time after a Timberwolves' victory.
    McHale went ballistic. "He's not playing very good," McHale told reporters. "As a basketball player you're always trying to make the 90-, 95-percent play, where 95 percent of the time this is going to work. He's making 15-percent decisions.
    "I think he's trying so hard to get some shots up and get himself going that
    he's just got to give himself up to the team, let the flow of the game carry
    him through, move the ball. And, defensively, he's going to have to get
    better."
    On a team filled with good guys, a coach can isolate a selfish player,
    quarantine him away. A team like the Timberwolves, however, is a hot zone
    for infection.
    "There's a different scenario you're writing every day,'' said Timberwolves'
    coach Flip Saunders. "Whether it's Troy or whether it's something else. We
    win by 36, and the story is not that we won by 36 and played well, it's that
    Troy didn't play enough. "We have to get to the point where the only agenda that you guys have to write about is how we play, and not everything else that leads to how we're playing."
    Saunders knows things might be getting worse before they get better. Over
    the past week, Taylor has said publicly he's done negotiating extensions with
    Sprewell and Cassell.
    Taylor then issued an ultimatum that the rest of the team (and league) might
    want to listen to.
    "There have been a number of little distractions along the way, and little
    distractions that can keep your team from being as good as it should be. We
    better win this year, or what am I doing here with older guys?"
    That is the right question.
    McHale rolled the dice on a team that can win now – not three years from
    now. The Timberwolves had a two-year window for a title shot. They narrowly
    missed it last year and haven't shown too many signs they'll hit it this year.
    That's partly because the Wolves sport the oldest starting backcourt in the
    league right now. Cassell is 35. Sprewell is 34.
    Both players are putting up career-low numbers. Whether that's because
    they're distracted or old doesn't matter. Neither is giving any NBA owners
    much incentive to drop a lucrative deal in their laps.
    Saunders is a firm believer that a great backcourt can deliver a championship.
    "Good guard play will keep you in every game," Saunders said. "If you look at teams that have been successful in the playoffs, it's because of guard play."
    The Wolves aren't getting it this year. And as time goes on, chances are it's going to get worse.
    That's why McHale has been working the phones relentlessly for the past few months in an effort to clean up the mess desperation inevitably leaves behind.
    At the start of the summer, the focus was on trading Wally Szczerbiak for another big guy to help Kevin Garnett in the post. The Wolves were close to sending Szczerbiak to the Blazers for Shareef Abdur-Rahim before Portland pulled out at the last minute. But with the emergence of Eddie Griffin and the stellar play of Szczerbiak (18 ppg over his last five) of late, that thinking has changed. Now it's the backcourt the Wolves are trying to upgrade.
    McHale made a run at Jason Kidd earlier in the year, offering both Cassell and Sprewell in return. In fact, McHale was so anxious to make the trade that he offered to do the deal before Kidd returned from injury – knowing Kidd's value likely would swell out of Minnesota's price range if he returned healthy.
    McHale's worst fears have been realized. Not only has Kidd returned and looked good, but the recent trade for Vince Carter has temporarily quieted his request for a trade. Now the Wolves are forced to look elsewhere. Luckily, both Cassell and Spree have trade value. Cassell can
    be a headache, but he has just one year left on his contract at a reasonable $6.7 million. Spree is in the last year of his deal, making him attractive to a team wanting cap space.
    Who could make a deal? Teams like the Rockets and Heat would be interested but probably don't have the assets to pull something off. These three teams, however, have the right pieces to make something happen:

    Boston Celtics: The Celtics really want two things. They want to be a playoff team now, and they want greater cap flexibility for the future, so Danny Ainge can continue his remodeling of the franchise. Right now they have neither. If the Celtics offered Gary Payton, Ricky Davis, Michael Stewart and Tom Gugliotta for Cassell and Sprewell, they might get both.
    Pair Cassell and Spree in the backcourt with Paul Pierce, Raef LaFrentz
    and Mark Blount, and the Celtics have a team that should be able to
    reach the second round of the playoffs. When Spree's contract comes off
    the books this summer, they would have room under the cap to make
    more moves.
    The deal also works for Minnesota. Payton gives them a veteran point
    guard with NBA Finals experience. Davis is a younger version of Sprewell.
    Remember, it was McHale who signed Davis to an offer sheet two years
    ago only to watch the Cavs match it.
    Payton, Stewart and Gugliotta both come off the books this summer,
    giving the Wolves some serious cap relief.
    At the end of the day, the Wolves actually might have a better shot at
    winning a title this year, while getting younger and more cap relief. That's
    a no-brainer, if McHale can convince his former teammate Ainge to pull
    the trigger.

    Memphis Grizzlies: If the Timberwolves were willing to throw Olowokandi into the deal, they might get Jerry West to bite. West has been after a big guy for more than a year now, and he has some problems of his own he'd like to move. A swap of Spree, Cassell and Olowokandi for Bonzi Wells, Jason Williams, Lorenzen Wright and Ryan Humphrey works under the cap and meets both teams' needs. Williams and Wells would move into the starting lineup for the Timberwolves and give them a younger but
    just-as-potent backcourt. Wright has been more productive for the Grizzlies than Olowokandi has been for the Wolves this year.
    Memphis, meanwhile, gets a point guard with championship experience, a big man who has intrigued West and some cap relief next year when Spree comes off the books. Given the out-of-control payroll in Memphis right now, that could be a motivating factor.
    While this deal doesn't quite have the appeal of the Celtics' scenario, it still addresses both the short- and long-term needs of the Timberwolves.

    Indiana Pacers: This is a long shot, but it might be worth the Timberwolves' trouble. If McHale isn't too
    concerned about winning a title this year, a trade with the Pacers could make some sense in the long term.
    If the Wolves offered both Spree and Cassell, would the Pacers send back
    Ron Artest? He is suspended for the season, but when he returns, Artest
    alongside KG could form one of the most awesome duos in the league.
    To get a deal like this to work financially, the Wolves also would have to
    take Austin Croshere, Anthony Johnson and Fred Jones. If they believed
    Artest would refocus under Garnett's tough leadership in Minnesota, it
    would be a trade seriously worth exploring.
    Why would the Pacers do it? Their window of opportunity is now. The
    Heat and Pistons are their only formidable competition in the East. Adding
    Heat and Pistons are their only formidable competition in the East. Adding
    veterans like Cassell and Spree to the backcourt along with Jamaal
    Tinsley and Reggie Miller would fix the Pacers' one Achilles' heel from last
    year.
    The fact Spree comes off the books this summer is also a plus. The
    Pacers' payroll is at $72 million next year – way too high for a smallmarket
    team. Dumping $14 million off Spree's deal would give them plenty of options next summer.
    This trade might reek of the same desperation of McHale's summer splurge in 2003. But if you're going to
    take a risk – take on young players with upsides and long-term deals.

    Around the League The Grizzlies are the latest team to talk to the Hornets about a possible Baron Davis trade. They've been dangling point guard Jason Williams around the league for some time. However, team president Jerry West
    claims the chances of something happening with the Grizzlies and Davis are slim. The Suns and Warriors made a minor trade Monday night, sending Zarko Carbarkapa to Golden State for two conditional draft picks. Carbarkapa had played sparingly this season and no longer fit the run-andgun type of basketball the Suns are playing. "It gives us flexibility in the form of a trade exemption," Suns President and General Manager Bryan Colangelo said. "By trading him and receiving only draft picks, we get a trade exemption of $1.4 million ($1.3 million, plus a $100,000 exemption) this year. "If we are in a position near the trade deadline and have identified a player we think can
    help us in a run toward or in the playoffs, we can acquire a player of that value."
    It's still unclear how the Warriors plan to use Carbarkapa. The team already takes too many jump shots, and Carbarkapa is a one-dimensional, 6-foot-11 jump shooter without much athleticism or defense. On second thought, he should fit right in.

    Bucks point guard T.J. Ford will undergo a series of physicals on Thursday and next Monday that will determine whether he'll be cleared medically to return to the Bucks this season.
    "If there's going to be no (clearance for) increased basketball activity, I think at that point we'll probably have to put him out for the year," Bucks GM Larry Harris told the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel.
    "And then, we'll hopefully be very optimistic that if he gets some stuff done in the summer, then come training camp next year he'll be ready to go."
    Ford injured his spinal cord last season, and the rehab has been going slowly. Harris claims Ford's spinal cord is so delicate he could risk further damage by simply rocking his head backward.
    The Bucks still insist they're hopeful he'll be able to play in the NBA again someday, but that sure doesn't sound good.

    Kobe Bryant continues to get in the news for all the wrong reasons. At least this time, there's some humor involved. During the Nuggets-Lakers game, new Nuggets head coach Michael Cooper was telling Nuggets guard DerMarr Johnson how to defend Bryant, when Kobe walked toward them before play
    resumed.
    "(Cooper) sees me coming so he says, 'And lock him up,' " Bryant told the Los Angeles Times. "I kind of look at him and he said, 'Yeah, lock you up.'
    "The next play I went to the basket and dunked it baseline. Then I went and did the reverse dunk. I was looking over at him, but he didn't want to look over. "If that's keeping me in check, wait until the next time," Bryant said Monday. "If I go nuts (in the Jan. 12 rematch), then what's going to happen?"
    Chad Ford covers the NBA for ESPN Insider.
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    Re: Ford talks of trading Spree and Cassel to Pacers

    So say we did what he suggests:

    Ron, Johnson, Fred, Croshere for Sprewell and Cassell.

    Tinsley/Cassell/Gill
    Miller/Sprewell
    Jackson/Spewell/Curry/Jones
    O'Neal/Bender/Foster
    Foster/Harrison/Pollard

    Easy to like, but I don't know that Cassel OR Sprewell would accept coming off the bench. Yet at the same time, Reggie gets his half-earned/half-legacy start, and will always, and Tinsley deserves to start too.

    This wouldn't work. Looks shiny on paper though.

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    • #3
      Re: Ford talks of trading Spree and Cassel to Pacers

      I would seriously have to consider both Sprewell AND Cassel for Ronnie.

      But I'd still rather keep Ronnie.

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      • #4
        Re: Ford talks of trading Spree and Cassel to Pacers

        The pigtails would have to go.

        Actually, I think we have all the players here we need.
        The best exercise of the human heart is reaching down and picking someone else up.

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        • #5
          Re: Ford talks of trading Spree and Cassel to Pacers

          Wow that combo of Garnett and Artest would be fabulous. That would be something to see, something we have never seen before. Two great forwards who are great offensively and defensively.

          Oh wait a minute I think I have seen that before, yes, yes I know, J.O and Artest.

          No thanks. But the chemistry would be horrible so the pacers would win nothing this season, and because of cassell's age they win nothing in the future. This is one of those thigns that might look good on paper, but would be a disaster.

          And then we would see KG and Artest together and I would get sick to my stomach, borderline suicidal

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          • #6
            Re: Ford talks of trading Spree and Cassel to Pacers

            Dont like this trade at all. Cassell is a proven starting pg, so is tins. The only way i like this trade is if we were to immediatly trade Spree and Sam for an all star sf. But i still like artest better, even if he is gone for the year. I'm really looking forward to how we play this year without him and how we come back next year with him!

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            • #7
              Re: Ford talks of trading Spree and Cassel to Pacers

              Chad Ford likes to make things up. He also thinks that Pacers backwords spells Stupid.

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              • #8
                Re: Ford talks of trading Spree and Cassel to Pacers

                Originally posted by Fig Newton
                Chad Ford likes to make things up. He also thinks that Pacers backwords spells Stupid.

                Well if he thinks that he would be wrong. Everyone knows Pacers spelled backwards is srecap!

                What an idiot!
                "The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results."
                - Benjamin Franklin

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                • #9
                  Re: Ford talks of trading Spree and Cassel to Pacers

                  Am I allowed to make a KG and Artest punching comment or does that get me relagated to Troll Patroll?

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                  • #10
                    Re: Ford talks of trading Spree and Cassel to Pacers

                    Seems like if they were looking to upgrade their backcourt, they'd be trading for Baron Davis and Jim Jackson.

                    Also, I had no idea TJ Ford's injury was that serious. I had heard he was done for the season, but I didn't really pay attention, because with him the Bucks were a tough team to play, and without him they aren't really anything to write home about. Now they're saying it could be a career-ending injury? That would be very unfortunate, especially considering how well he played his rookie year.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Ford talks of trading Spree and Cassel to Pacers

                      Dude, Kobe keeps looking more and more like a pompous a$$.

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                      • #12
                        Re: Ford talks of trading Spree and Cassel to Pacers

                        "To get a deal like this to work financially, the Wolves also would have to
                        take Austin Croshere, Anthony Johnson and Fred Jones."

                        Say what? I wouldn't do the deal straight up, let alone include all that. Aside from the talent being WAY lopsided in that trade, seeing Cassel's ugly mug in Pacers blue and gold would make me throw up.

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                        • #13
                          Re: Ford talks of trading Spree and Cassel to Pacers

                          Trading Ron "The Precious" Artest for Sam "Smeagol/Gollum" Cassell. How ironic.

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                          • #14
                            Re: Ford talks of trading Spree and Cassel to Pacers

                            Ford is a sports writer and sometimes sports writers induge in a bit of fantasy because there's no work involved. No body to call, no facts to check.

                            This is just something he made up to fill his column, and he's no better at making things up than a lot of us. No doubt Sam Smith, Peter Vecsey, and others etc. will have the Pacers trading Artest too.

                            If Artest gets traded it will be right before the Feb. 24 deadline.

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                            • #15
                              Re: Ford talks of trading Spree and Cassel to Pacers

                              Does Ford or anyone else really think that Donnie Walsh and Larry Bird would trade for the player who had the second longest suspension in NBA history? Interesting upgrade?! Give me a break.

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