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    I don't see it posted.

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    PS: I like the idea of taking a gamble and stashing the prospect. Enough of marginal NBA players on the roster already. As a bonus, when he signs, we will lead the league in French backups.

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    I think there are some potential gems later in the first round. This draft sucks at the top, but I think there are some guys in the 20s that could help a team.

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    Gobert is a stud would love him.
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    Gobert is a stud would love him.
    I know absolutely nothing about the foreign crop of gents. Nuntius or any of our other European based Pacer fans: Know anything about this guy?

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    I know absolutely nothing about the foreign crop of gents. Nuntius or any of our other European based Pacer fans: Know anything about this guy?
    he was going top 10 in most mock draft sites for most of the season im not really sure what changed though.
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    I know it's impractical, but imagine Gobert and Roy on court together.....

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    Ive seen Gobert play.

    Tall as **** and fantastic shot blocking instincts with a pretty good first jump. His wingspan is so ridiculous he can block shots without leaving the floor.

    The downside? He's incapable of making anything that isn't a dunk. He has problems with layups. He's probably the 3rd or 4th best player on his own team right now, and he doesn't even play a lot. The reason behind that is he's practically anorexic. His lower base is practically weightless so even a little contact below the waist and the ball just flies out of his hands at awkward angles.

    Also for that same reason, his rebounding is....not so good. He loses his balance very easily when he gets boxed out.

    I won't say he reminds me of Manute Bol, but he gets results like Manute Bol. Lots of blocked shots, but not much in the way of offense or rebounding.

    All that said, I'd pick him outside of the lottery. He's a project but the upside is pretty good. Athletic 7'3" guys with an even longer wingspan don't come around often. The gamble is that he has to develop some kind of an offensive move or outside shot, because his frame isn't going to get a whole lot stronger. That's the reason why he's going to fall into the 20's.

    He's listed at 220, and I'm going to go out on a limb and say that number should be in green font.
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    Nuntius... You know anything about this guy?


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    I'd like Allen Crabbe as a firecracker off the bench.

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    The catch-22 with Gobert is Cholet. I don't believe Cholet is very interested in developing him. He's almost 21 and hasn't really improved since he was 19. He isn't really involved in the offense. They send him out to block shots, and he blocks shots. He doesn't get touches if he's not wide open for a dunk. Ford is missing the boat when he says Gobert needs to develop overseas. I don't think they care if he gets any better or not.

    I think he's in bad need of NBA coaching and development.

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    Pick him up and stick him in the D-League.
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    Problem is the D league is useless. It doesn't simulate nba basketball at all.
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    What we need is a pass first point guard with real ball handling and passing skills

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    What we need is a pass first point guard with real ball handling and passing skills
    I would rather get a vet.

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    No rail think guys please. Dude has no chance to ever come over.

    Glen Rice Jr. Sounds like a scorer to me. This team really needs a backup point. While the Pacers need a scorer today, I think PG, Lance and OJ all take another leap forward, so I really don't forsee this being an issue unless DWest signs elsewhere.

    I'd trade the first round pick for something next season honestly. Save the money and sign Jarrett Jack, DWest and backup PF. Also, Oden...just cause.
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    I know absolutely nothing about the foreign crop of gents. Nuntius or any of our other European based Pacer fans: Know anything about this guy?
    Gobert is an athletic freak. He is born in 1992, he is 7 foot and a quarter barefoot (which means that in the NBA he will be at least 7'1) and has a monstrous wingspan (7'9).

    Here is a video of him at the 2012 Eurocamp:



    He is really efficient (he shot 79.4% last season and 74% this season for Cholet, both 23 games seasons) but the vast majority of his shots are inside 3 feet.

    At this point, he is only a shot-blocker and a PnR finisher. He is quite thin (235 lbs according to DX) although he is lately looking to add some weight. He is very willing to come and play in the NBA.

    The problem with Gobert is that he is going to be drafted solely because of his athletic potential, which is enormous. He has not developed basketball skills yet.

    I wouldn't mind him at our pick. He is good value for late 1st. But I've seen several mock drafts that have him slated to go top 10. That would be a major mistake, imo.
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    Smart is 19 not 23 that is a huge difference. If he was 23 he would be evaluated a lot different.


    Disagree about the dleague good league. So much higher level of ball than college great for prospects.

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    Ive seen Gobert play.

    Tall as **** and fantastic shot blocking instincts with a pretty good first jump. His wingspan is so ridiculous he can block shots without leaving the floor.

    The downside? He's incapable of making anything that isn't a dunk. He has problems with layups. He's probably the 3rd or 4th best player on his own team right now, and he doesn't even play a lot. The reason behind that is he's practically anorexic. His lower base is practically weightless so even a little contact below the waist and the ball just flies out of his hands at awkward angles.

    Also for that same reason, his rebounding is....not so good. He loses his balance very easily when he gets boxed out.

    I won't say he reminds me of Manute Bol, but he gets results like Manute Bol. Lots of blocked shots, but not much in the way of offense or rebounding.

    All that said, I'd pick him outside of the lottery. He's a project but the upside is pretty good. Athletic 7'3" guys with an even longer wingspan don't come around often. The gamble is that he has to develop some kind of an offensive move or outside shot, because his frame isn't going to get a whole lot stronger. That's the reason why he's going to fall into the 20's.

    He's listed at 220, and I'm going to go out on a limb and say that number should be in green font.
    You're spot on, Kstat. He is not as tall as Manute (he is closer to 7'1 and 7'2 than 7'3 or 7'4 but anyway) but their frames are kinda similar. I think that he can gain some weight, though. I read that he has reputedly hired a personal cook and eats 5k calories per day in order to add weight.

    We will see how he measures in the workouts.
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    Ford is missing the boat when he says Gobert needs to develop overseas. I don't think they care if he gets any better or not.

    I think he's in bad need of NBA coaching and development.
    Agreed. Gobert is eager to come to the NBA immediatedly and with good reason. He will not gain anything by playing in Cholet.
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    We're going to trade for Oladipo.

    And by trade for him, I mean we're going to trade the Eric Gordon rumors and speculation for Oladipo rumors and speculation.
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    I think if we can get a PG this offseason (either draft or FA) we move Hill to SG. A young PG could come in here and if he is moldable, he could change the current offensive culture.

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    BTW, on a side note, I love me some oladipo.

    There are three guys I'd want at #5. He'd be on my short list. He'd be third, but he'd be on it.

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    Problem is the D league is useless. It doesn't simulate nba basketball at all.
    Helped Pulp gain some confidence. I know he and Gobert are not both apples, but I wouldn't say it's completely useless.

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    If he can play defense, and finish around the rim I would be ok with him as a back-up. He does need to put on some muscle, I wouldn't stash him away in Europe though, if we draft him bring him over immediately. Have him and Hibbert work out together in the offseason doing all of those MMA workouts. The sooner he gets acclimated to the NBA the better. Just have to remember he will be coming here as a back-up, so you wouldn't necessarily be expecting him to be a complete player, and if he can do one thing, defense, at a high level you have a pretty good back-up as long as he isn't a complete detriment on offense. If he is shooting 74% that tells me he is well aware of his weaknesses, and doesn't try to play outside his strengths. A good attribute for any player, but especially for a back-up.

    He doesn't have the body yet, but we also already have Ian. So he wouldn't be expected to come in and play immediately. It would give him time to develop his body, and other skills. Then when he is ready Ian would be on the final year or two of his contract, making him good trade bait.

    Also think about this, we would have four 7 footers on our team. If Plumlee becomes useful no one will be able to really compete with our size as we could have a front court line-up consisting of a 6'10 SF, 7' PF, and 7'2 C. Then we still have a 7'1 guy with a freakish wingspan stashed away on our bench. The only problem is I wouldn't trust either Plumlee or this guy to develop a good offensive game, meaning we would still have little to no post offense off the bench.

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    BTW, on a side note, I love me some oladipo.

    There are three guys I'd want at #5. He'd be on my short list. He'd be third, but he'd be on it.
    God hates me enough for Oladipo to end up in Detroit.

    I'd love to see him drop to OKC though. He and Westbrook in the court next to Durant. Holy balls.

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