I see opponents using Zone Defense in your future...
...Still "flying casual"
Wasn't able to see live the second half (6:30 a.m. when the first one finished), so really glad with the win. 4-0 record on that rod trip in the Western Division is really really good.
Just a small observation but how annoying was that terrible sequence at the end of the first half? Up with 13 points and:
1) Paul George hits a 3, that originally seems to be rimming out but then in only for Lance to be called for basket interference. Really stupid thing.
2) Griffin makes and 1 cause Pendy is unable to foul him without giving him a shot
3) Hans makes a wrong inbound pass with 3.5 sec remaining on the clock and finally
4) Butler scoring one of the freakiest tip ins you'll ever see
I want to comment on your other point about Frank calling plays. Although I would want to see the exact times you are talking about. But I would say 90% if not more of the time a play is called and for whatever reason the play breaks down. Most likely because the defense shuts it down, or the timing is off. But there is a play called.
Sure there are times when there isn't a play called - like in the secondary fastbreak situations - in open court situations. Or sometimes they will just go into a series of free flowing pick and rolls. But those generally are not the times you are talking about.
There are times when they are on purpose trying to run time off the clock, that the point guard or who ever will hold the ball - but that is on purpose
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I fell asleep because I have to be up at 4:30 every morning for work but I wish I could have seen the whole game. This team makes me feel giddy.
It was a game worth staying up for. That is for sure.
Another Roy-moment was also very nice..He was 7-7 on the floor in think. He came in, in the second quarte, and tipped in a miss. The announcer didnt noticed Roy was back in the game, so after Roy tipped the ball in to make his 8-8 the announcer said in disbelieve: Ohhhh, Rob Hibbert, he is in again...
Btw its amazing to watch games with the commentary feed of the opponent. They all talk extremely positive about us. And with so much detail about PG his defending, Hibbert being the anchor in our D, West being consistence, us defending without no help defense etc..
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I enjoyed the game, don't get the ugly win talk or concern about blowing a lead. When the Pacers went up above 20 and Barnes got that flagrant, I knew LA had at least a 15 point run in them. You get it to within 10 with 5 minutes left and you have a chance. The Clippers knew that when they got it to within 10. Yes, Pacers looked like a deer in headlights against the zone, but they did what they were supposed to do on most plays. Got inside and hit some 3's. Hibbert had no trouble scoring his lone bucket against the zone, had he not been in foul trouble the Pacers may not of looked as stagnant against the zone. Then, the Pacers hit BIG free throws. I love that, because for whatever reason that has been a shaky area in close games with this team. I hope the team has this game in mind when big FTs are needed in the playoffs.
Did anyone notice when Chris Paul got in late in the 4th, maybe his second play on offense, he penetrated to a little IN FRONT of the free throw line and the D spread out leaving CP wide open? He just froze and didn't take the bunny. Never thought I would see that.
Very good win against a tough Western Conference team. Yes the 4th qtr was bad, but really good teams with superstars are going to make comebacks. Whether we like it or not, the Pacers do not have the type of offensive firepower that is going to consistently blow out an offensive force like the Clippers--especially on the road.
One of my favorite wins on the season, and we are slowly but surely regaining our edge and toughness that we demonstrated earlier in the season. Reminds me a lot of last year when we turned it up in March/April--just in time for the playoffs.
Hats off to Roy who is turning his season around in a hurry. Dude went from averaging 9 ppg, to close to averaging 12 in just over a month. He has been in a zone offensively, while also providing that always great defense. But the thing that's impressed me the most is his confidence and fire. He seems to be getting his MOJO back..just in time for the playoffs.
Zone is for cowards.
We are already 2 wins ahead. However, at this time of year when teams have played different amounts of games you have to look at the lost column to really gage where a team is in relation to another.
We have 7 games to play while NY has 10 left to play. However they have one less lost than us. Just glancing at the loss column and projecting both teams winning their remaining game means they finish a game ahead of us.
The rule of thumb is the team with the least loses is the team in charge of their own destiny. That means if New York wins their remaining games they finish a game ahead of us even if we would win all our remaining game.
Both of us can't win out though. Thankfully we have a game against them yet. Since we have played them 3 times and beaten them twice, if we win that game we have the tiebreaker. If they win 'and' we finish tied in the standings, then this is the way tiebreakers are explaned.
The following is an explanation of NBA tiebreaking scenarios.
Determining Ties for Playoff Position
In order to break a tie for playoff positions, if one exists at the end of the regular season, the following criteria will be utilized in the order set forth:
1. Results of games against each other. (If NY wins we will be tied 2-2)
2. Better winning percentage within own division (only if tied teams are in same division). (We are in different divisions)
3. Better winning percentage against teams in own conference. (We are 30-16, NY is 30-13, big advantage NY.)
4. Better winning percentage against playoff opponents in own conference (including teams that finished the regular season tied for a playoff position).
5. Better winning percentage against playoff opponents in opposite conference (including teams that finished the regular season tied for a playoff position).
6. Better point differential between offense and defense.
MORE THAN TWO TEAMS TIED
1. If applicable, division champions must be determined first.
2. Better winning percentage in all games among the tied teams.
3. Better winning percentage against teams in own division (only if all tied teams are in same division).
4. Better winning percentage against teams in own conference.
5. Better winning percentage against teams eligible for playoffs in own conference (including team that finished the regular season tied for a playoff position).
6. Best point differential between offense and defense.
Note: If a multiple team tie is reduced to a two-team tie at any point using the above criteria, the two-team tie will be resolved in accordance with the existing two-team tie procedure.
I don't know how they keep winning, but it looks more and more like who finishes 2nd will be decided by our game against them.
Great win, and I also loved the moment when Roy grabbed Tyler by the jersey. Roy is really focused heading into the playoffs and he's been the difference for us during this winning stretch. As good as Roy was Ian was terrible. I heard one of the announers say that CP3 was telling his team to attack Roy to get him in foul trouble. That scared me when he was pulled with his 5th. foul. I hope that doesn't become a game plan against us during the playoffs.
I think the additional games are going to take it's toll on NY starting this week but April 14th. will have us all glued to our seats. Overall I'd say NY has the tougher remaining scedule as of today. I really want that #2 seed.
As you all were loving Roy Hibbert grabbing Hansbrough by the Jersey I was busy cursing him out for reaching in on CP3. Dude has no business reaching in on CP3. Stupid foul. I mean what a dumb foul, take yourself out of the game, after only being in a few possessions. One of the most bone headed fouls ever. Reaching your big slow hands and just giving CP3 some FT's.
That said I'm happy we won the game, but we gonna get a good dose of zone D in the playoffs. Pacers are in for a rough 1st round.
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