Announcement

Collapse

The Rules of Pacers Digest

Hello everyone,

Whether your are a long standing forum member or whether you have just registered today, it's a good idea to read and review the rules below so that you have a very good idea of what to expect when you come to Pacers Digest.

A quick note to new members: Your posts will not immediately show up when you make them. An administrator has to approve at least your first post before the forum software will later upgrade your account to the status of a fully-registered member. This usually happens within a couple of hours or so after your post(s) is/are approved, so you may need to be a little patient at first.

Why do we do this? So that it's more difficult for spammers (be they human or robot) to post, and so users who are banned cannot immediately re-register and start dousing people with verbal flames.

Below are the rules of Pacers Digest. After you have read them, you will have a very good sense of where we are coming from, what we expect, what we don't want to see, and how we react to things.

Rule #1

Pacers Digest is intended to be a place to discuss basketball without having to deal with the kinds of behaviors or attitudes that distract people from sticking with the discussion of the topics at hand. These unwanted distractions can come in many forms, and admittedly it can sometimes be tricky to pin down each and every kind that can rear its ugly head, but we feel that the following examples and explanations cover at least a good portion of that ground and should at least give people a pretty good idea of the kinds of things we actively discourage:

"Anyone who __________ is a liar / a fool / an idiot / a blind homer / has their head buried in the sand / a blind hater / doesn't know basketball / doesn't watch the games"

"People with intelligence will agree with me when I say that __________"

"Only stupid people think / believe / do ___________"

"I can't wait to hear something from PosterX when he/she sees that **insert a given incident or current event that will have probably upset or disappointed PosterX here**"

"He/she is just delusional"

"This thread is stupid / worthless / embarrassing"

"I'm going to take a moment to point and / laugh at PosterX / GroupOfPeopleY who thought / believed *insert though/belief here*"

"Remember when PosterX said OldCommentY that no longer looks good? "

In general, if a comment goes from purely on topic to something 'ad hominem' (personal jabs, personal shots, attacks, flames, however you want to call it, towards a person, or a group of people, or a given city/state/country of people), those are most likely going to be found intolerable.

We also dissuade passive aggressive behavior. This can be various things, but common examples include statements that are basically meant to imply someone is either stupid or otherwise incapable of holding a rational conversation. This can include (but is not limited to) laughing at someone's conclusions rather than offering an honest rebuttal, asking people what game they were watching, or another common problem is Poster X will say "that player isn't that bad" and then Poster Y will say something akin to "LOL you think that player is good". We're not going to tolerate those kinds of comments out of respect for the community at large and for the sake of trying to just have an honest conversation.

Now, does the above cover absolutely every single kind of distraction that is unwanted? Probably not, but you should by now have a good idea of the general types of things we will be discouraging. The above examples are meant to give you a good feel for / idea of what we're looking for. If something new or different than the above happens to come along and results in the same problem (that being, any other attitude or behavior that ultimately distracts from actually just discussing the topic at hand, or that is otherwise disrespectful to other posters), we can and we will take action to curb this as well, so please don't take this to mean that if you managed to technically avoid saying something exactly like one of the above examples that you are then somehow off the hook.

That all having been said, our goal is to do so in a generally kind and respectful way, and that doesn't mean the moment we see something we don't like that somebody is going to be suspended or banned, either. It just means that at the very least we will probably say something about it, quite possibly snipping out the distracting parts of the post in question while leaving alone the parts that are actually just discussing the topics, and in the event of a repeating or excessive problem, then we will start issuing infractions to try to further discourage further repeat problems, and if it just never seems to improve, then finally suspensions or bans will come into play. We would prefer it never went that far, and most of the time for most of our posters, it won't ever have to.

A slip up every once and a while is pretty normal, but, again, when it becomes repetitive or excessive, something will be done. Something occasional is probably going to be let go (within reason), but when it starts to become habitual or otherwise a pattern, odds are very good that we will step in.

There's always a small minority that like to push people's buttons and/or test their own boundaries with regards to the administrators, and in the case of someone acting like that, please be aware that this is not a court of law, but a private website run by people who are simply trying to do the right thing as they see it. If we feel that you are a special case that needs to be dealt with in an exceptional way because your behavior isn't explicitly mirroring one of our above examples of what we generally discourage, we can and we will take atypical action to prevent this from continuing if you are not cooperative with us.

Also please be aware that you will not be given a pass simply by claiming that you were 'only joking,' because quite honestly, when someone really is just joking, for one thing most people tend to pick up on the joke, including the person or group that is the target of the joke, and for another thing, in the event where an honest joke gets taken seriously and it upsets or angers someone, the person who is truly 'only joking' will quite commonly go out of his / her way to apologize and will try to mend fences. People who are dishonest about their statements being 'jokes' do not do so, and in turn that becomes a clear sign of what is really going on. It's nothing new.

In any case, quite frankly, the overall quality and health of the entire forum's community is more important than any one troublesome user will ever be, regardless of exactly how a problem is exhibiting itself, and if it comes down to us having to make a choice between you versus the greater health and happiness of the entire community, the community of this forum will win every time.

Lastly, there are also some posters, who are generally great contributors and do not otherwise cause any problems, who sometimes feel it's their place to provoke or to otherwise 'mess with' that small minority of people described in the last paragraph, and while we possibly might understand why you might feel you WANT to do something like that, the truth is we can't actually tolerate that kind of behavior from you any more than we can tolerate the behavior from them. So if we feel that you are trying to provoke those other posters into doing or saying something that will get themselves into trouble, then we will start to view you as a problem as well, because of the same reason as before: The overall health of the forum comes first, and trying to stir the pot with someone like that doesn't help, it just makes it worse. Some will simply disagree with this philosophy, but if so, then so be it because ultimately we have to do what we think is best so long as it's up to us.

If you see a problem that we haven't addressed, the best and most appropriate course for a forum member to take here is to look over to the left of the post in question. See underneath that poster's name, avatar, and other info, down where there's a little triangle with an exclamation point (!) in it? Click that. That allows you to report the post to the admins so we can definitely notice it and give it a look to see what we feel we should do about it. Beyond that, obviously it's human nature sometimes to want to speak up to the poster in question who has bothered you, but we would ask that you try to refrain from doing so because quite often what happens is two or more posters all start going back and forth about the original offending post, and suddenly the entire thread is off topic or otherwise derailed. So while the urge to police it yourself is understandable, it's best to just report it to us and let us handle it. Thank you!

All of the above is going to be subject to a case by case basis, but generally and broadly speaking, this should give everyone a pretty good idea of how things will typically / most often be handled.

Rule #2

If the actions of an administrator inspire you to make a comment, criticism, or express a concern about it, there is a wrong place and a couple of right places to do so.

The wrong place is to do so in the original thread in which the administrator took action. For example, if a post gets an infraction, or a post gets deleted, or a comment within a larger post gets clipped out, in a thread discussing Paul George, the wrong thing to do is to distract from the discussion of Paul George by adding your off topic thoughts on what the administrator did.

The right places to do so are:

A) Start a thread about the specific incident you want to talk about on the Feedback board. This way you are able to express yourself in an area that doesn't throw another thread off topic, and this way others can add their two cents as well if they wish, and additionally if there's something that needs to be said by the administrators, that is where they will respond to it.

B) Send a private message to the administrators, and they can respond to you that way.

If this is done the wrong way, those comments will be deleted, and if it's a repeating problem then it may also receive an infraction as well.

Rule #3

If a poster is bothering you, and an administrator has not or will not deal with that poster to the extent that you would prefer, you have a powerful tool at your disposal, one that has recently been upgraded and is now better than ever: The ability to ignore a user.

When you ignore a user, you will unfortunately still see some hints of their existence (nothing we can do about that), however, it does the following key things:

A) Any post they make will be completely invisible as you scroll through a thread.

B) The new addition to this feature: If someone QUOTES a user you are ignoring, you do not have to read who it was, or what that poster said, unless you go out of your way to click on a link to find out who it is and what they said.

To utilize this feature, from any page on Pacers Digest, scroll to the top of the page, look to the top right where it says 'Settings' and click that. From the settings page, look to the left side of the page where it says 'My Settings', and look down from there until you see 'Edit Ignore List' and click that. From here, it will say 'Add a Member to Your List...' Beneath that, click in the text box to the right of 'User Name', type in or copy & paste the username of the poster you are ignoring, and once their name is in the box, look over to the far right and click the 'Okay' button. All done!

Rule #4

Regarding infractions, currently they carry a value of one point each, and that point will expire in 31 days. If at any point a poster is carrying three points at the same time, that poster will be suspended until the oldest of the three points expires.

Rule #5

When you share or paste content or articles from another website, you must include the URL/link back to where you found it, who wrote it, and what website it's from. Said content will be removed if this doesn't happen.

An example:

If I copy and paste an article from the Indianapolis Star website, I would post something like this:

http://www.linktothearticlegoeshere.com/article
Title of the Article
Author's Name
Indianapolis Star

Rule #6

We cannot tolerate illegal videos on Pacers Digest. This means do not share any links to them, do not mention any websites that host them or link to them, do not describe how to find them in any way, and do not ask about them. Posts doing anything of the sort will be removed, the offenders will be contacted privately, and if the problem becomes habitual, you will be suspended, and if it still persists, you will probably be banned.

The legal means of watching or listening to NBA games are NBA League Pass Broadband (for US, or for International; both cost money) and NBA Audio League Pass (which is free). Look for them on NBA.com.

Rule #7

Provocative statements in a signature, or as an avatar, or as the 'tagline' beneath a poster's username (where it says 'Member' or 'Administrator' by default, if it is not altered) are an unwanted distraction that will more than likely be removed on sight. There can be shades of gray to this, but in general this could be something political or religious that is likely going to provoke or upset people, or otherwise something that is mean-spirited at the expense of a poster, a group of people, or a population.

It may or may not go without saying, but this goes for threads and posts as well, particularly when it's not made on the off-topic board (Market Square).

We do make exceptions if we feel the content is both innocuous and unlikely to cause social problems on the forum (such as wishing someone a Merry Christmas or a Happy Easter), and we also also make exceptions if such topics come up with regards to a sports figure (such as the Lance Stephenson situation bringing up discussions of domestic abuse and the law, or when Jason Collins came out as gay and how that lead to some discussion about gay rights).

However, once the discussion seems to be more/mostly about the political issues instead of the sports figure or his specific situation, the thread is usually closed.

Rule #8

We prefer self-restraint and/or modesty when making jokes or off topic comments in a sports discussion thread. They can be fun, but sometimes they derail or distract from a topic, and we don't want to see that happen. If we feel it is a problem, we will either delete or move those posts from the thread.

Rule #9

Generally speaking, we try to be a "PG-13" rated board, and we don't want to see sexual content or similarly suggestive content. Vulgarity is a more muddled issue, though again we prefer things to lean more towards "PG-13" than "R". If we feel things have gone too far, we will step in.

Rule #10

We like small signatures, not big signatures. The bigger the signature, the more likely it is an annoying or distracting signature.

Rule #11

Do not advertise anything without talking about it with the administrators first. This includes advertising with your signature, with your avatar, through private messaging, and/or by making a thread or post.
See more
See less

Kenny Anderson now coach at a Jewish Private School

Collapse
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • Kenny Anderson now coach at a Jewish Private School

    Queens hoops legend and former NBA star Kenny Anderson goes back to basics, coaching basketball at a small Jewish private school in Florida
    Kenny Anderson spent the first decades of his life as a certified urban legend, an up-tempo genius for the late Jack Curran at Archbishop Molloy, a kid with a surpassing gift for finding angles and openings, threading passes on the fly, making assists you had to see to believe, the first player ever to be named all-city for four years.

    Kenny Anderson, a legend in New York high school basketball and former NBA star, can now be found teaching basketball at obscure David Posnack Hebrew Day School, in Davie, Florida.


    DAVIE, Fla. - There are 149 students enrolled in grades 9-12 at the David Posnack Jewish Day School, where tuition runs $18,300 per year and the price includes a rigorous academic program and a complete absence of any basketball pedigree. Walk in the gym and you see not a single banner hanging from the barren white walls. Look at the results from the recent season and you learn that the David Posnack Rams played their first game against Coral Springs Charter School, and lost 78-7.

    Two games later, they did better, losing 65-10.

    The Posnack boys’ season ended with a record of 1-13, but Josh Fayne doesn’t want the numbers to mislead you. Fayne is a 5-7, 165-pound sophomore, a bulldog of a lefty point guard, and he says the team improved significantly over the 14 games, progress Fayne attributes almost wholly to the patience and nurturing of their coach, a left-handed point guard himself.

    “He cares a lot about us. We’re his players,” Josh Fayne says. He pauses and talks about how committed the coach was every day at practice, without even an assistant, and how much he revels in watching highlights of his coach’s playing career.

    “It’s the experience of a lifetime,” Fayne says. “I’m learning from one of the all-time greats. I would never guess this would happen, that somebody like that would come to a small private Jewish school in South Florida.”

    The coach never would’ve guessed it, either, a New York City icon out of LeFrak City teaching the nuances of driving and dishing to Josh Fayne, a hardwood prodigy dialing down his genius, and teaching the basics. But then, if Kenny Anderson has learned anything — and he will tell you he has learned plenty — it’s that the game, and life, can unspool on you faster than you can spell phenom.

    Kenny Anderson spent the first decades of his life as a certified urban legend, an up-tempo genius for the late Jack Curran at Archbishop Molloy, a kid with a surpassing gift for finding angles and openings, threading passes on the fly, making assists you had to see to believe, the first player ever to be named all-city for four years, no matter that Curran wouldn’t let him play until the second quarter as a freshman. Anderson was never better than his freshman year at Georgia Tech, which he led to the Final Four in 1990, a body of work that will earn him a trip back to Atlanta, and another Final Four, next weekend, when Anderson will be honored as one of the top 75 players (No. 49) in the 75 years of the tournament.

    “He is, unequivocally, the greatest high school point guard I’ve ever seen,” says Tom Konchalski, the widely respected publisher of HSBI and a high school scout for almost 50 years.

    More recently, Anderson has achieved a much less palatable sort of legend, becoming to many a sorry symbol of recklessness and excess, a poster child for athletic entitlement, which is what happens when you blow through almost all of the $63 million made over 14 seasons in the NBA, and when you have seven children with five women; when you’ve gone through bankruptcy and collected cars as if they were trinkets with wheels, and when you’re on your third marriage.

    “I’ve never run from any of my problems, and never blamed anyone for them,” Anderson says. “Did I do it? Yes. Am I proud of it? No. I take full responsibility for everything. I’ve failed. I’ve failed in marriage. I’ve failed as a father. But you know, failure is good in some ways. It lets you see what you have to build, what you have to do.

    “I’m going in the right direction. I’m a better father now. I’m trying to help the youth and just live a good life.”

    Now, at age 42, Kenny Anderson is operating at a much more measured pace, eschewing risk for what he hopes is a deeper reward. He lives with his wife Natasha, a social worker and VP at a Miami hospital, in a three-bedroom house in Pembroke Pines, with his son, Kenny Jr., and his stepdaughter, Tiana. He teaches the Posnack kids basketball.

    “That’s the cool thing about life — you never know what’s going to fit and what’s not going to fit,” says Danny Herz, the Posnack athletic director. “He wouldn’t be here if he thought he was too good (for this level). He’s valuable to our school and I think there’s a value for him in that.”

    Says Anderson, “You want to be wanted somewhere, you know? I want to get up and go to work and be happy. You can have all the money in the world and be miserable. I was miserable for a lot of the time I was in the NBA.

    “I still have a love for the game. I’m playing through my team now. It’s a challenge, but we’re trying to build it. It’s just going to take some time.”

    * * *

    It’s a few weeks after his second season as the David Posnack boys basketball coach, and Anderson is sitting on a folding chair on his unadorned home court. A little kid comes up to say hi. Anderson rubs him on the head, and does the same with another kid, and then begins to talk about his forthcoming book, written with the assistance of J.J. Staples.

    It’s called Instructions Not Included, and for Anderson, it captures the essence of his personal narrative, particularly after he left Georgia Tech following his sophomore year and the Nets made him the No. 2 overall pick in the 1991 draft, signing him to five-year, $14 million contract. Anderson bought a house on Long Island for his mother, Joan, and lots of other things, discovering he had a troubling character flaw: he couldn’t say no.

    Not to his own impulses, and not to anybody and everybody who had a run of bad luck, or needed a few bucks, or had a credit card to pay off.

    “I was 22, 23, 24, and suddenly I had all this money,” Anderson says. “I didn’t do nothing wild. It’s just that coming up in New York, being a star in New York, everything was there for you. Everything was easy.”

    For years, Anderson acquired stuff, without restraint. He once had 10 cars, from a Mercedes to a Porsche to a customized Range Rover, at one point paying as much as $75,000 annually just on auto insurance and maintenance. In his 2005 bankruptcy filing, he listed monthly expenses of $41,000 and had a total of 69 creditors. He purchased a 16,000-square foot house in Atlanta for $2.1 million with his second wife, Tamiyka, and rarely even stayed there.


    ALEXIA FODERE/FOR THE NEW YORK DAILY NEWS

    Kenny Anderson, who shot to fame as a scintillating point guard for Arch Bishop Molloy and then George Tech, hit some rocky times after being drafted by the Nets in 1991, but now, coaching basketball in for a small Jewish school in Florida, says he’s in a good place, accepts his failures.

    “It never felt like home,” he said.

    He also spent money on more noble pursuits, sinking up to $40,000 each summer sponsoring a youth tournament in LeFrak City, but even after his salary peaked at $9.2 million in 2002-3, his finances were completely tangled and overstretched, not just because of a lavish lifestyle, but because of child support obligations in the tens of thousands, his eldest daughter, Danielle, 22, having been born when he was still at Georgia Tech, and his youngest son, Devin, born some 11 years later.

    According to a bankruptcy filing in 2005, Anderson owed two former wives and another woman — the mother of two of his sons — a total of $77,000 in either alimony or child support. Anderson says every case has been settled, and that the legal wrangling with ex-wives was never about wanting to shortchange his kids.

    “Nobody ever had to chase me for anything. I was never a deadbeat dad,” he says.

    * * *

    For all his female companionship and all his apparent friendships, Kenny Anderson’s signature move wasn’t a lefthanded spin dribble so much as a determination to be elusive. He kept feelings inside, kept people at a distance, kept going through NBA teams – nine in all – and women. Maybe it was his chaotic home life, with drugs encroaching from everywhere and an older brother who was in and out of jail. Maybe it not knowing his father until he was 30, or losing his beloved Uncle James, a Queens playground legend, when he was only six. Outside of his mother, Anderson never knew who he could count on, never knew whether people really liked him or just wanted to be pals with a big basketball star. Wariness got hard-wired into him. Even as a pro, if a coach benched him, or criticized him, Anderson would often withdraw, or rebel.

    “I’ve always been a loner. I stayed away from everybody,” Anderson says. “I did it to myself. Nobody knew me.”

    He pauses and wipes away a tear, and talks about the therapy he’s undergone to help him forge meaningful relationships with people, including his kids. He’s planning a reunion with all seven of them later this year, taking them all to DisneyWorld.

    “We’re going to have a ball,” says Anderson, who visited New York this weekend with Natasha, Kenny Jr. and Tiana, taking them ice skating at Rockefeller Center and to Friday night’s Knick game, before returning home and beginning a conditioning program for his players.

    Coaching, after all, is what he wants to do. He had a short stop with the Atlanta Krunk before the CBA folded, and then with a franchise in SlamBall, which is basically a trampoline-powered dunking contest. He met with Jim Larranaga when the former George Mason coach took over at Miami, but the staff was full. Two years ago, Anderson connected on Twitter with a Georgia Tech alum who happens to be on the Posnack board, and told Anderson about the opening.

    Soon Anderson was interviewing with Dr. Richard Cuenca, the head of school.

    “We did our homework and went in with our eyes wide open,” Cuenca says. “We had conversations with him about (his past) and he was very specific about wanting to make a difference in the lives of kids, and didn’t shy away at all from his prior mistakes. He was very open about it. Kenny’s had his ups and down, but he really is a very nice guy.”

    * * *

    Kenny Anderson has probably undergone more change, and done more soul-searching, in the last few years than he did in the rest of his life put together. He fulfilled a promise to his late mother, and enhanced his coaching credentials, by returning to school and getting a degree in organizational leadership three years ago from St. Thomas University in Miami. For the first time he is a hands-on, full-time father, having gotten custody of his son, Kenny Jr. He has explored his loner ways, gotten out from under from the weight of bankruptcy, reconnected with all his children and even his father, who lives in Harlem.

    “I am so blessed to have what I have now,” he says. “I had some bad times, but I count my blessings. I don’t count my mishaps.”

    You ask Kenny Anderson, who averaged 12.6 points and 6.1 assists and made one All-star team in his pro career, what advice he’d give to a top draft pick who’s about to leave college for the NBA. He says he’d tell him this:

    Work hard. Stay locked in. Take care of your body. “I didn’t work as hard as I could’ve as a pro. I wasn’t always locked in. If I had, the sky’s the limit,” he says.

    “I’d tell them to invest your money wisely. You think the money and the contract is going to last forever, and it doesn’t last forever. I’d say, ‘Know how to say no.’”

    And then Kenny Anderson said he’d tell the kid the same thing he tells his players at the David Posnack Jewish Day School: Be a stand-up person. When you do something, accept the consequences. Don’t run. Don’t point fingers. No, you did it, so you deal with it. My mother used to say to me, ‘You laid down with the woman, now you have to take care of those kids.’”

    Anderson isn’t sure how long he’ll be at David Posnack. Part of him thinks he’d like to try college coaching, but he isn’t sure. “I just want to be rewarded in my heart, no matter what level I’m at,” he says. Josh Fayne, for one, wants Kenny Anderson, New York icon and his fellow left-handed point guard, to stay right where he is, in the banner-less gym with 149 students.

    “Having him as a coach is definitely indescribable,” Josh Fayne says.


    Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/ba...#ixzz2P4lDmD6t

  • #2
    Re: Kenny Anderson now coach at a Jewish Private School

    (Poverty & hard circumstances in childhood) + (Unusual talent & recognition) + (Unusual financial success as a young/imature adult) = Lots of human wreckage

    Way more often than it should anyway. Always want to see these guys mature and work to get it right later in life.

    Didn't see any mention of alcohol in the story. Pretty sure that was an issue with Anderson too. Especially later in his career including his time with the Pacers.

    Comment

    Working...
    X