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    The Bucks ran with a Twin Tower lineup of Dalembert and Sanders in the paint last game.

    I think that it's going to be a tough game to win without West. Unfortunately, with PGs penchant for taking the 3pt shot ( as opposed to attacking the paint ), I can see him jacking up a lot of 3pt shots.

    Hibbert is going to have his hands full.

    I just hope that Hansbrough gets Dalembert and Sanders in foul trouble.
    Well it looks like Dalambert and Sanders got their hands full instead. And Tyler probably was the catalyst that drove Sanders out of the game.

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    Regardless of how we feel about Hansbrough as a starter, I think all sane, intelligent basketball fans can agree that the pro-Tyler members of PD are the winners of the great Hansbrough vs. McBob debate.

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    From the Pacers' perspective, the question posed does not merit a response.

    However, from Tyler's perspective, I guarantee that is the exact question he is asking himself as he enters free agency. A few good games against scrub opponents with below-average front lines could artificially inflate his value on the open market and cause him to be a guy that is out of our price range to bring back next year. Plus, he may just believe that he should be a starter in this league and go looking for a place out there like Orlando or Charlotte or Toronto where he might get a chance to do that, rather than return to a 50-win team with great chemistry where he is guaranteed to play, but not to start.

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    Regardless of how we feel about Hansbrough as a starter, I think all sane, intelligent basketball fans can agree that the pro-Tyler members of PD are the winners of the great Hansbrough vs. McBob debate.
    No doubt, I know some people are going to disagree but that shouldn't be a question anymore, we won and some people lost the debate, take that losers!!!
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    Does Tyler want to be a starter for a Charlotte or does he want to win? I get the impression he's the kind of guy that wants to win. And to that, is probably more aware of his limitations in the NBA than he's given credit for. It's not just his hustle that gets him compared to Foster all the time. IMO, it's also been his willingness to accept the role he's given and try to get better.

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    From the Pacers' perspective, the question posed does not merit a response.

    However, from Tyler's perspective, I guarantee that is the exact question he is asking himself as he enters free agency. A few good games against scrub opponents with below-average front lines could artificially inflate his value on the open market and cause him to be a guy that is out of our price range to bring back next year. Plus, he may just believe that he should be a starter in this league and go looking for a place out there like Orlando or Charlotte or Toronto where he might get a chance to do that, rather than return to a 50-win team with great chemistry where he is guaranteed to play, but not to start.
    wondering.. cause im not clear on the Bird Rights. how does that work now in the nba. Pacers need to get some value for Hansbrough. A strong performance in the postseason and his value could skyrocket. would be nice to get a 1st rounder for him in someway.
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    And I'm not suggesting that the Bobcats roster, or anyone else for that matter, doesn't want to win. I'm saying I think Hans would rather be with the Pacers in the role he has now than start for Charlotte.
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    Regardless of how we feel about Hansbrough as a starter, I think all sane, intelligent basketball fans can agree that the pro-Tyler members of PD are the winners of the great Hansbrough vs. McBob debate.
    I suppose this must be based off this most recent stretch?

    Over their last 5 games:

    Hansbrough has averaged 12.8 points per game, 9.4 rebounds per game, 0.2 assists per game, 0.2 steals per game, and 0.4 blocks per game

    McRoberts has averaged 12.2 points per game, 9.6 rebounds per game, 2.8 assists per game, 1.6 steals per game, and 0.8 blocks per game.

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    I suppose this must be based off this most recent stretch?

    Over their last 5 games:

    Hansbrough has averaged 12.8 points per game, 9.4 rebounds per game, 0.2 assists per game, 0.2 steals per game, and 0.4 blocks per game

    McRoberts has averaged 12.2 points per game, 9.6 rebounds per game, 2.8 assists per game, 1.6 steals per game, and 0.8 blocks per game.
    No really.

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    I suppose this must be based off this most recent stretch?

    Over their last 5 games:

    Hansbrough has averaged 12.8 points per game, 9.4 rebounds per game, 0.2 assists per game, 0.2 steals per game, and 0.4 blocks per game

    McRoberts has averaged 12.2 points per game, 9.6 rebounds per game, 2.8 assists per game, 1.6 steals per game, and 0.8 blocks per game.
    I'm curious, though, where you're coming up with Pendy>Hans. Yes, Tyler gets more minutes but I don't see any verifiable way to say that this is true.

    Note: Obviously, I'm referring to your earlier posts. Not the one in quotes.

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    Default Re: Should Hansbrough start?

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    I'm curious, though, where you're coming up with Pendy>Hans. Yes, Tyler gets more minutes but I don't see any verifiable way to say that this is true.

    Note: Obviously, I'm referring to your earlier posts. Not the one in quotes.
    I believe the argument is Pendy has produced better coming off the bench as the back up PF than Hans has. It's comparing 2nd string numbers to 2nd string numbers.

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    I'm curious, though, where you're coming up with Pendy>Hans. Yes, Tyler gets more minutes but I don't see any verifiable way to say that this is true.

    Note: Obviously, I'm referring to your earlier posts. Not the one in quotes.
    Hansbrough is a better player than Pendergraph. He hasn't shown himself to be better coming off the bench.

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    According to Stats for 2013
    McRoberts
    25 min_ FG% 48.2_ RPG_6.2 PPG_8

    Hansbourgh
    16 min FG% 43 RPG 4.4 PPG_6.9



    So, according to these stats,
    yes, TH should start for the pacers...... =)

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    According to Stats for 2013
    McRoberts
    25 min_ FG% 48.2_ RPG_6.2 PPG_8

    Hansbourgh
    16 min FG% 43 RPG 4.4 PPG_6.9



    So, according to these stats,
    yes, TH should start for the pacers...... =)
    I'm not sure I follow your reasoning. McRoberts is a solid player. I always liked him when he was here. He just isn't near as physical or as much of a defender as Tyler. I hope McRoberts has a good career, but let's be clear. If David West is out I would take Tyler to step in his place over McRoberts every time. This team is built on defense. The defense is still elite when Tyler starts, there is no drop off.

    Props to Yahoo stats for this.

    Situation G Min M A Pct M A Pct M A Pct Off Def Tot Ast TO Stl Blk PF PPG

    As Starter 4 25:11 6.5 13.3 49.1 0.0 0.0 N/A 5.3 6.8 77.8 5.5 6.3 11.8 0.8 0.3 0.8 0.3 1.5 18.3
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    Default Re: Should Hansbrough start?

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    I suppose this must be based off this most recent stretch?

    Over their last 5 games:

    Hansbrough has averaged 12.8 points per game, 9.4 rebounds per game, 0.2 assists per game, 0.2 steals per game, and 0.4 blocks per game

    McRoberts has averaged 12.2 points per game, 9.6 rebounds per game, 2.8 assists per game, 1.6 steals per game, and 0.8 blocks per game.


    I have a feeling Tyler could put up some pretty impressive stats if he was on a Bobcats team with no structure. Don't forget that Augistin also put up big stats there before seeing a drastic drop in production once he came to Indy. I think about anyone could put up solid stats on the Bobcats. Tyler OTOH is being asked to play within the strict confines of a team that is actually trying hard to win every game. There is a big difference between what him and McRoberts are doing right now.
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    I'm curious, though, where you're coming up with Pendy>Hans. Yes, Tyler gets more minutes but I don't see any verifiable way to say that this is true.

    Note: Obviously, I'm referring to your earlier posts. Not the one in quotes.
    Pendy probably isn't a better player than Hans, but his willingness to pass and ability to hit a shot beyond 3 feet might make the bench unit click better.

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    Is this silly idea now put to bed after last night ?
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    Is this silly idea now put to bed after last night ?
    Then I suppose they should have benched #24 after the bagel he put up against Golden State.

    No - NOT saying Tyler should start, just saying that 1 game shouldn't be the deciding factor.

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    Then I suppose they should have benched #24 after the bagel he put up against Golden State.

    No - NOT saying Tyler should start, just saying that 1 game shouldn't be the deciding factor.
    I was waiting for that one you're right, but should 2 or 3 games be a factor to consider him a starter?? because that is what it was, no more, so it works two ways.
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    I was waiting for that one you're right, but should 2 or 3 games be a factor to consider him a starter??
    Hell no. It's simple - who is the better player ?? West or Tyler ??

    Next question.

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    I have a feeling Tyler could put up some pretty impressive stats if he was on a Bobcats team with no structure. Don't forget that Augistin also put up big stats there before seeing a drastic drop in production once he came to Indy. I think about anyone could put up solid stats on the Bobcats. Tyler OTOH is being asked to play within the strict confines of a team that is actually trying hard to win every game. There is a big difference between what him and McRoberts are doing right now.
    I hope we get to see Tyler put up some impressive stats on the Bobcats next year. When Tyler has been asked to play his role off the bench, he hasn't been either willing to, or able to do it. The biggest difference between Hansbrough and McRoberts, is that one is willing, and able to play whatever role he is asked to play.

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