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  • #1

    Kravitz: Pacers not ready to beat the heat in the playoffs

    The Heat would be the favorite, that is for sure and yes I agree the Pacers will have to beat two other teams most likely before they get toi the Heat. But it seems rather strange that Bob thinks the only shot the Pacers have at beating the Heat is to not start Granger. Bob thinks that is the key. Of all the things he could have mentioned, that is what he chose as the key to beating the Heat. OK

    http://www.indystar.com/article/20130228/SPORTS15/302280084/Kravitz-Newsflash-folks-Pacers-not-ready-beat-Miami-Heat-playoffs

    Pacers not ready to beat Miami Heat in playoffs, says Bob Kravitz


    There is this growing perception the Pacers are a quiet team that’s dangerously lying in the weeds, ready to shock the world and ruin the Miami Heat’s second straight run at an NBA title. One national writer, Indy born-and-raised Jason Whitlock, recently rolled out lots of “Game of Thrones’’ references and referred to the emerging star Paul George as a “baby dragon’’ while suggesting the Pacers have the Heat’s number.

    A word about that:

    Nope.

    As much as I like what the Pacers have built, what they’ve done sincethat 10-11 start and the way they’re playing right now — the exception being Thursday night’s 99-91 loss to the Los Angeles Clippers — they’re not beating the Heat in a seven-game series.
    Don’t tell me the Heat are 0-5 against the Grizzlies, Pacers and Knicks and have lost by an average of 16.2 points per game. That’s regular season. Which means nothing to LeBron and D-Wade.

    Here’s what locals conveniently forget when they recall last year’s playoff run:

    Not only did they beat the Magic without Dwight Howard, but Chris Bosh missed most of the Miami series with an abdominal injury, playing just 16 minutes. The Heat still won in six games.

    Everybody is talking already about a possible Miami-Indiana match-up like it’s predestined, but I’d be leery of teams the Pacers might have to play before they reach that series.

    The Boston Celtics, a possible first-round opponent, have played better since Rajon Rondo was injured. The Atlanta Hawks always have given the Pacers trouble. The Brooklyn Nets are very dangerous, especially when Deron Williams is playing at or near the top of his game. And the Knicks are a brutal matchup — notwithstanding a recent Pacers blowout victory over New York — because the Knicks bring J.R. Smith and Amar’e Stoudemire off the bench.

    Are the Pacers better this year? Absolutely, they are. This year, George is playing at an All-Star level and Lance Stephenson has become a very solid complementary rotation guy. They’re also much better at the backup center spot with Ian Mahinmi.

    Here’s what continues to scare me, though, in a series against the Heat: that Indiana bench.

    (For the record, the bench got outscored 43-16 Thursday night, but it wasn’t the only culprit. Think this team doesn’t miss Roy Hibbert on the defensive end? The Clips finished with 50 points in the paint, and Blake Griffin had a dunk so heavenly, he still hasn’t come down and touched the ground.)

    I still don’t trust D.J. Augustin, scoreless Thursday, who spent the first part of the season in the tank.

    I still don’t trust Tyler Hansbrough, also scoreless Thursday, who hasn’t grown his offensive game.

    I still don’t know what they’re going to get from Stephenson if he’s asked to adjust to life as an alpha dog off the bench.

    And I know what I’m going to get from Gerald Green, which is absolutely nothing.

    I would have made a deal at the deadline. I would have made a move to get J.J. Redick, even if it meant giving up a first-rounder for a three-month rental. He could have been a difference maker coming off the bench, and it would have sent a message to fans that the Pacers are absolutely, positively going for a title. This is a weak draft anyway; what are they going to add picking in the late 20s, anyway?

    So how do they rectify the bench issue?

    For the longest time, I’ve agreed with Pacers coach Frank Vogel: Start out using Danny Granger off the bench, then move him back into the starting lineup while sending Stephenson to the second unit.

    Well.

    I’m changing my tune.

    And I’m glad to hear that Vogel is keeping an open mind.

    “I’m inclined to get him back into the starting lineup,’’ Vogel said recently. “But we’ll look at it on a daily and weekly basis and see what happens.’’

    He should.

    Because early in the Pacers’ loss to the Clippers, Granger looked like he absolutely belonged on the court with the second-teamers, giving the Pacers a high-scoring option off the bench they would otherwise lack. After going 2-of-17 his first two games back from injury, Granger looked a little bit like Granger, scoring 12 points in 19 minutes.
    “I’ll embrace any role they have for me,’’ he said Thursday night. “But right now, I’m a long way away. It’s going to be a couple of weeks, maybe a month. I hit some shots, but I’m only 65 percent at this point. My legs and my wind still aren’t there.’’

    If the Pacers keep winning with Stephenson starting and Granger coming off the bench, why mess with a good thing? Why not use Granger the way the Oklahoma City Thunder used James Harden, the way the Spurs use Manu Ginobili? Why not take advantage of the fact George has turned into a rising star in this league, and give that second unit the kind of dynamic scorer it so desperately needs?

    Put it this way: It’s the only shot they have of beating the Heat.

    The only shot.
    Last edited by Unclebuck; 03-01-2013, 09:03 AM.
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  • #2
    Re: Kravitz: Pacers not ready to beat the heat in the playoffs

    The sky is falling, because they lost 1 game without their starting center!
    "It's just unfortunate that we've been penalized so much this year and nothing has happened to the Pistons, the Palace or the city of Detroit," he said. "It's almost like it's always our fault. The league knows it. They should be ashamed of themselves to let the security be as lax as it is around here."

    ----------------- Reggie Miller

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    • #3
      Re: Kravitz: Pacers not ready to beat the heat in the playoffs

      Originally posted by Cactus Jax View Post
      The sky is falling, because they lost 1 game without their starting center!
      I know right? Hey the one time Bob Kravitz was in the house and the Pacers lost, he writes a reactionary article damning us to failure. Go figure.
      Last edited by graphic-er; 03-01-2013, 08:38 AM.
      You can't get champagne from a garden hose.

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      • #4
        Re: Kravitz: Pacers not ready to beat the heat in the playoffs

        Kravitz just wants to get people mad and unite them behind the team. Works for me.

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        • #5
          Re: Kravitz: Pacers not ready to beat the heat in the playoffs

          Hey, people are starting to get behind the Pacers. I better slam the door in their face.
          Passion. Pride. Patience. Pacers

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          • #6
            Re: Kravitz: Pacers not ready to beat the heat in the playoffs

            This is probably my favorite line.

            "And the Knicks are a brutal matchup — notwithstanding a recent Pacers blowout victory over New York — because the Knicks bring J.R. Smith and Amar’e Stoudemire off the bench."

            Even though the Pacers destroyed them, theyre an awful matchup...I'm more worried about the first round against Celtics or whoever not named Milwaukee, than I would be if Pacers had homecourt against Knicks in 2nd round.
            "It's just unfortunate that we've been penalized so much this year and nothing has happened to the Pistons, the Palace or the city of Detroit," he said. "It's almost like it's always our fault. The league knows it. They should be ashamed of themselves to let the security be as lax as it is around here."

            ----------------- Reggie Miller

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            • #7
              Re: Kravitz: Pacers not ready to beat the heat in the playoffs

              Kravitz wrote...."As much as I like what the Pacers have built, what they’ve done sincethat 10-11 start and the way they’re playing right now — the exception being Thursday night’s 99-91 loss to the Los Angeles Clippers — they’re not beating the Heat in a seven-game series.
              Don’t tell me the Heat are 0-5 against the Grizzlies, Pacers and Knicks and have lost by an average of 16.2 points per game. That’s regular season. Which means nothing to LeBron and D-Wade."

              This part has some truth in it. Lebron and Wade will ratchet up the offensive pressure. They will attack and they
              have the quickness to force the refs to call fouls. The Clippers are very quick and that was a problem last night.
              Especially the pick and roll with Paul. He ate the Pacers alive last night. I would like to see PG on him at various times to stop some of what he did.
              {o,o}
              |)__)
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              • #8
                Re: Kravitz: Pacers not ready to beat the heat in the playoffs

                I have never been a Kravitz fan but this is a very good article and I think he is exactly correct about all of it. I know the "fans" here won't tolerate anything less than absolute adoration and cheerleading for the Pacers but this is a step-back-and-think article that should make sense to most people who watch the games. It won't, of course, be cause "fans" are intolerant of any criticism of their beloved team. Some real fans will read the article and realize that Kravitz is right about all of it...... ...

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                • #9
                  Re: Kravitz: Pacers not ready to beat the heat in the playoffs

                  Kravitz is one of the funniest journalists I've come across. He's spent the past month hyping the Pacers. One loss at home without your starting center (and a guy who clearly should be getting some DPOY pub) and he decides to write we can't beat the Heat, which maybe it's true, but we didn't even play the Heat yesterday


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                  • #10
                    Re: Kravitz: Pacers not ready to beat the heat in the playoffs

                    Originally posted by Cactus Jax View Post
                    The sky is falling, because they lost 1 game without their starting center!
                    Lol I've never seen so much negativity from losing to an elite team..FOLLOWING a 5 game winning streak where we were downright DOMINANT!

                    We are going to lose some games ppl, it's okay.

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                      My favorite part is when he brings up Gerald as if he's in the rotation.

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                      • #12
                        Re: Kravitz: Pacers not ready to beat the heat in the playoffs

                        I actually thought it was a fair article. The Clippers exposed the fact that as dominant as the Pacers have been since the break, the playoffs will bring out the best from really good teams. I think he is right that the Pacers might just not quite be there yet. If Hibbert plays against the Clips do the Pacers win that game? I don't think so - because except for some miraculous 3-point shooting and a 4th quarter flurry, that game should have been a double digit loss.

                        For some reason with the re-appearance of Danny, both Tyler and DJ have decided to disappear - hopefully it is just a thing, and not a trend.

                        I am not a big Kravitz fan and find his writing intentionally dramatic, but I think today's article was pretty spot on.

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                        • #13
                          Re: Kravitz: Pacers not ready to beat the heat in the playoffs

                          Kravitz has always been someone to reliably go "all in" on some opinion based on a sample size of one game. I guess it helps him meet his deadlines and all, but it is really silly
                          The poster "pacertom" since this forum began (and before!). I changed my name here to "Slick Pinkham" in honor of the imaginary player That Bobby "Slick" Leonard picked late in the 1971 ABA draft (true story!).

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                          • #14
                            Re: Kravitz: Pacers not ready to beat the heat in the playoffs

                            I don't disagree with the premise, I don't think many people would, but the boring, inessential way Kravitz chose to present it. Peck's post game wrap ups are so much funnier, more incisive and creative that it's almost embarrassing to read stuff like this from a professional writer. You're a pro and a guy who's doing it for fun is writing laps around you.

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                            • #15
                              Re: Kravitz: Pacers not ready to beat the heat in the playoffs

                              Originally posted by MTM View Post
                              If Hibbert plays against the Clips do the Pacers win that game? I don't think so - because except for some miraculous 3-point shooting and a 4th quarter flurry, that game should have been a double digit loss.
                              The first half was a continual display of Clippers scoring points in the paint. Roy's presence would have been huge. The second half there were other problems, but as poorly as the Clippers shot from the perimeter in the first half, I feel that with Roy in there we would have had a healthy lead at halftime. Who knows if we could have won, but we would not have been in that 17 point hole.
                              The poster "pacertom" since this forum began (and before!). I changed my name here to "Slick Pinkham" in honor of the imaginary player That Bobby "Slick" Leonard picked late in the 1971 ABA draft (true story!).

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