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    I don't see the season as being "down the tubes" at all. We were saying we'd get our guys back in January and instead we get one back in December. So we will still get JO and Jax back well before the PO's. Now if you are firmly convinced that we cannot win anything without RA, then you feel we are doomed. I felt we were doomed with him and should have gotten a repalcement before teh season started. So I don't see the season being any worse off than it was yesterday. Actually, IMO it is better off that it was yesterday because we may be able to get JO back earlier than thought.
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    One side of me is so excited to get JO back! Another is heartbroken that Ron wont be back this year. Is there any other way to attempt getting Ron's suspension reduced? Could they appeal Kaplan's decision in regards to Ron?

    Frankly, I wouldn't be surprised if Ron-Ron never plays in the NBA again.

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    Well the news mus thave learned you that the icehockey player that hit another player form beind, causing serious damage (how many games did he get?) does not face jailtime or whatever, plea nargain, community service.

    The lesson?

    Ron should have hit Ben in his neck then kick him in the head, less suspension, less trouble in court.

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    I think JO's reduction is fair, and I have no problem with Jax serving the full 30 games. I am, however, very disappointed that Ron will not be back. I think Ron should have been reduced to 60 games.

    Stern is in a win-win situation now. He still hurts the Pacers big time in the long run, and gets his ratings for the Christmas Day game. Blah.
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    And as someone else said, this will be good also if Stern doesn't fight it, because with this out of the way, the Simons/Pacers can start battling on their own front for Ron and Jack while we get to enjoy Jermaine O'Neal on the floor in the meantime. Works for me. Simons might get Ron back even.

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    Quote Originally Posted by able
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    Well the news mus thave learned you that the icehockey player that hit another player form beind, causing serious damage (how many games did he get?) does not face jailtime or whatever, plea nargain, community service.

    The lesson?

    Ron should have hit Ben in his neck then kick him in the head, less suspension, less trouble in court.

    What on earth is this world coming to?
    I'm with you here. The two-faced nature of their punishments is down-right screwey.

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    All big IF's Hicks, but yes, if this is not the result of a shady deal then I am pretty convinced that he Simons will appeal to the board.

    If they don't then there is more to this then meets the eye
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    the Simons/Pacers can start battling on their own front for Ron and Jack while we get to enjoy Jermaine O'Neal on the floor in the meantime. Works for me. Simons might get Ron back even.
    How is this possible? What can they do, what is the process?

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    I feel bad for Ron on a personal level, I hope he recovers from this is a better person and player. Pacers better not abandon him.

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    I feel bad for Ron on a personal level, I hope he recovers from this is a better person and player. Pacers better not abandon him.

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    How is this possible? What can they do, what is the process?
    Besides obvious lawsuits, they can appeal to the board of governours of the NBA which consists of all the owners in the NBA and is the employer of Stern.

    They have the right to overrule anything Stern decides. Will they do so?

    Not likely, however...........

    This is not only a hobby for some, and there might be a reasoning that it can happen to them to once precedent has been set.

    On the other hand they might just want to screw the other guy over and keep it as it is, but it will be an interesting procedure to say the least
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    I think Stern has to challenge this still. Otherwise the precedent is set that outside arbitrators have jurisdiction for incidents like this as "off the court" events.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unclebuck
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    I feel bad for Ron on a personal level, I hope he recovers from this is a better person and player. Pacers better not abandon him.
    If no further appeals are filed I do not see how Ron will ever overcome this.

    In fact if not a clear statement is made by the Simons or the Pacers I see Ron never coming back to the NBA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by able
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    Well the news mus thave learned you that the icehockey player that hit another player form beind, causing serious damage (how many games did he get?) does not face jailtime or whatever, plea nargain, community service.

    The lesson?

    Ron should have hit Ben in his neck then kick him in the head, less suspension, less trouble in court.

    What on earth is this world coming to?
    Both situations are independent of each other. One case is irrelevant to the other.

    Different leagues, different circumstances, different sports, different scenarios.

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    Overthrow Stern !

    Oh wait, sorry I got a litle carried away.

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    I think Stern has to challenge this still. Otherwise the precedent is set that outside arbitrators have jurisdiction for incidents like this as "off the court" events.
    Depends on what the arbitrator says was his reasoning/justification for this. He may not be doing it on the bases of "off the court". It could just be the fact that the CBA says any punishment that costs the player more than $25,000 can be brought to an arbitrator.

    And then there's what UB and I were just saying above. If for no other reason than politics, it's smart for Stern not to fight this.

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    This is very disappointing - I had thought that Ron's was the most likely to get reduced - his suspension is just so damn unfair it makes me sick. The season is not over, but title hopes are in my opinion.

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    This is very disappointing - I had thought that Ron's was the most likely to get reduced - his suspension is just so damn unfair it makes me sick. The season is not over, but title hopes are in my opinion.
    This was "our" season, instead we now have a "let's see how far we can get" state again, dissapointing is indeed an understatement.
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    We have a good chance to win every night JO plays. I'm happy. I feel bad for Ron, he just never figured it out.
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    If Stern accepts this ruling, looks to me like he has then agreed the arbitrator had the right to make this ruling. Therefore I don't think he will accept this decision.

    Maybe Stern will come back with a different ruling involving one of the other players and leave JO's suspension reduced to time served. That way at least he never admits the arbitrator had any say so in this matter.

    As for the arbitrator's ruling, I am heart broken for Ron. But I am ready to move on if Stern immediately reviews this matter and reduces JO's suspension. What the hell else can you do?

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    Default Re: Arbitrator - Reduces JO's to 15 games

    This 10 game reduction seems like nothing - like they threw us a bone... give the poor saps Jermaine, they will still come up short without Ron.

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    No Ron!? WTF! F This...

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    no chance stern allows this to happen, he will fight it.

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    Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhh

    but doesn't this "silence" the supporters in Conseco, since they now have JO to cheer at on Christmas day..........

    What a security move!!!

    JO's impact can be big, but please be not surprised if it isn't, rythm, practise and so on.

    The waiting is now for:

    A. Stern's reaction (anyone waiting at the courthouse?)
    B. Walsh's reaction (press statement anyone?)
    C. The Simons' statement (unscheduled press statement anyone?)
    D. JO's statement?
    E. Ron's statement
    F. Billy Hunter's statement

    damn you guys have a lot of press conferences to look forward to!

    anyone that can get his hands on the ruling form Kaplan? (full text) I'd be grateful for a long time
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    Interesting that the first two to come here saying Stern has to and will fight this are Pistons fans. I don't know if that means anything, but it's interesting.

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