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    For me, Quinn is one of the most irritating announcers ever. I find him to be presumptuous and condescending and not very smart basketball wise. I generally watch the other broadcast on Directv to avoid Quinn.

    That said, others, even a majority, have a different opinion. And I can respect that.

    I love Denari. Croshere is tolerable.
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    It's really a toss up for me, but I prefer Croshere, overall.

    QB, when I've met him, couldn't be a nicer person. He's willing to say hello, talk for a bit during halftime. He's a smart guy. He knows basketball from the inside out. At times I think he'll talk a little too much and try and overpower Denari and berate him and the audience.

    Cro I think does a better job. While he comes across as a little dry, he calls the game like it should. He doesn't go overboard with the calls for the Pacers or against the Pacers. He does have a sense of humor.

    Nonetheless, both QB and Cro do a much better job than most announcers do.

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    QB. At times I think he'll talk a little too much and try and overpower Denari and berate him and the audience.
    Berate? Here is the definition. to scold somebody vigorously and at length
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    Is that what you really mean?

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    Berate? Here is the definition. to scold somebody vigorously and at length
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    Don't think Denari will ever be angry with them
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    Yeah, that is what I meant.
    Why do you mean that?
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    I think Quinn and Chris have a great relationship - at least on air. That is probably the best part of their broadcasts, is their on air chemistry. Clark and Al Albert, they always seemed to butt heads - no chemistry there at all.

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    I think Quinn and Chris have a great relationship - at least on air. That is probably the best part of their broadcasts, is their on air chemistry. Clark and Al Albert, they always seemed to butt heads - no chemistry there at all.
    Slick and Jerry Baker? Good or bad chemistry?
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    I like Quinn's bumbling and I like his chemistry with Denari better than Croshere's. Not that Croshere is bad; he's been doing fairly well. I dislike his voice, though.


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    I like Quinn's bumbling and I like his chemistry with Denari better than Croshere's. Not that Croshere is bad; he's been doing fairly well. I dislike his voice, though.
    He talks like he's yelling but he's not
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    Why do you mean that?
    He doesn't do in a nasty way, but it seems he'll be overpowering in what Denari will say and likes to make it seem like he knows it all. Maybe it's just me because Denari laughs it off.

    Don't get me wrong, I like Quinn. He does know his stuff.

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    He doesn't do in a nasty way, but it seems he'll be overpowering in what Denari will say and likes to make it seem like he knows it all. Maybe it's just me because Denari laughs it off.

    Don't get me wrong, I like Quinn. He does know his stuff.
    I think he likes when Quinn talks a lot. I'm sure he doesn't mind
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    I think Quinn and Chris have a great relationship - at least on air. That is probably the best part of their broadcasts, is their on air chemistry. Clark and Al Albert, they always seemed to butt heads - no chemistry there at all.
    I definitely think they have nice chemistry. They definitely enjoy calling games with each other and they've done it for so long.

    Same with Chris and Austin. They haven't done games together for as long as Chris and Quinn have, but they both seem have nice chemistry as well.

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    I think Croshere seems like a guy that went to school for broadcasting, does the basics of the job, but doesn't really bring a whole lot else to the table. With Quinn he is not your typical analyst but he brings humor and a lot of really cool stories.

    I prefer the fun broadcaster more than the technically sound guy. #QB4LIFE

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    Slick and Jerry Baker? Good or bad chemistry?
    Great!

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    On the whole I think the Pacers have it very good. Cro is very informative and Quinn has great insight and personality. Denari is just a pros' pro.

    As far as other guys like like to listen to:
    Dell Curry-Bobcats
    Phil Chanier (sp?) Wizards
    Walt Frazier- Knicks

    Some of the worst:
    Jim Barnett- Warriors (WAYYY too biased)
    Heinshon- as mentioned before, annoying and biased
    Fred Mcleod/Austin Carr- Cleveland: atrocious to listen to, often slow

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    we should start a Stacy or Brooke thread!

    i gotta give Stacey my vote. whats she up to these days anyway?

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    If I had to pick between Cro and Quinn, I'd pick Croshere by a slim margin, but as UB said, it kind of depends on the game.

    Denari and Clark was a special team, unfortunate they were only together for a short period of time. Denari could easily get a national job though, but I hope the Pacers pay him good money to stay.
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    and not very smart basketball wise.

    Quinn?


    I can get not liking his style.

    But not very smart basketball wise?

    unreal.


    While Buckner was a failure with the Mavericks, it was mostly a matter of style that didn't endear him to professional players, but as Knight told the Trib...

    March 7, 1993
    Bob Knight, who still uses Quinn Buckner as an example of leadership at Indiana, predicts the newly named Dallas Mavericks coach will succeed in turning around the struggling NBA team. But he's not quite sure why Buckner wants to do it. "I hope he got paid a lot. And I hope he has a four- or five-year contract," Knight said of his former player, hired Thursday as the Mavericks' coach beginning next season. "I always thought he was far too intelligent to coach, but I think it's a real challenge for him. The great part of it is that he's taken over a team that when he does something with it-and he will do something with it-it'll have his mark on it. "And I think that's a great thing for a young guy in coaching," Knight said.

    http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1...ob-knight-hope

    Or this gem from 1986:

    KNIGHT RIPS PACERS
    Never was heard a discouraging word from Quinn Buckner, who was put on waivers this week by the Indiana Pacers.
    And what did Buckner`s former college coach at Indiana University, Bob Knight, think of the move?
    ``It`s really a shame to have a professional team in this state that`s handled as incompetently as that one is,`` fumed Knight.
    Buckner, a 10-year NBA veteran, was waived to make room for Clark Kellogg, the Pacers` leading scorer and rebounder, who had been on injured reserve for six weeks. Buckner, acquired from the Boston Celtics, was averaging 3.7 points a game.
    Pacers` coach George Irvine said Buckner ``fulfilled some of the leadership qualities, but one of the main problems with having Quinn on the team is his biggest weakness is outside shooting, and our biggest weakness is outside shooting.``
    But Knight said some of the Celtics` players ``have told me how valuable he (Buckner) was to them. These people up there (in Indianapolis) just don`t know enough about the game to know how to utilize the guy.
    ``I read some of the garbage that goes on up there, both from the people who write who don`t know anything to people involved with the team who don`t know anything.
    ``It`s a shame for a state that`s as good in basketball as this one is to have a team in professional basketball in the hands of and surrounded by people who don`t know anything about it except for (consultant) Wayne Embry.`` Pacer president Bob Salyers and Embry refused comment on Knight`s criticism.


    http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1986-01-17/sports/8601050249_1_super-bowl-all-american-bowl-clark-kellogg

    But if you don't want to hear it from Knight, how 'bout Phil Jackson?

    RICHFIELD, Ohio — The firing of Quinn Buckner on Tuesday, while not a shock to Bulls coach Phil Jackson, was somewhat disturbing just the same.
    "I think most people in the NBA feel that Quinn, although he hasn't gone through the elements of coaching from ground level to get to head coach, had the kind of knowledge and intellect it would take to be a good coach," Jackson said.

    Jackson said first-year NBA coaches with no previous experience like Buckner should not be discounted so easily.

    http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1...off-type-bulls
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    Why do the things that connect us slowly pull us apart?
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    Quinn?


    I can get not liking his style.

    But not very smart basketball wise?

    unreal.


    While Buckner was a failure with the Mavericks, it was mostly a matter of style that didn't endear him to professional players, but as Knight told the Trib...

    March 7, 1993
    Bob Knight, who still uses Quinn Buckner as an example of leadership at Indiana, predicts the newly named Dallas Mavericks coach will succeed in turning around the struggling NBA team. But he's not quite sure why Buckner wants to do it. "I hope he got paid a lot. And I hope he has a four- or five-year contract," Knight said of his former player, hired Thursday as the Mavericks' coach beginning next season. "I always thought he was far too intelligent to coach, but I think it's a real challenge for him. The great part of it is that he's taken over a team that when he does something with it-and he will do something with it-it'll have his mark on it. "And I think that's a great thing for a young guy in coaching," Knight said.

    http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1...ob-knight-hope

    Or this gem from 1986:

    KNIGHT RIPS PACERS
    Never was heard a discouraging word from Quinn Buckner, who was put on waivers this week by the Indiana Pacers.
    And what did Buckner`s former college coach at Indiana University, Bob Knight, think of the move?
    ``It`s really a shame to have a professional team in this state that`s handled as incompetently as that one is,`` fumed Knight.
    Buckner, a 10-year NBA veteran, was waived to make room for Clark Kellogg, the Pacers` leading scorer and rebounder, who had been on injured reserve for six weeks. Buckner, acquired from the Boston Celtics, was averaging 3.7 points a game.
    Pacers` coach George Irvine said Buckner ``fulfilled some of the leadership qualities, but one of the main problems with having Quinn on the team is his biggest weakness is outside shooting, and our biggest weakness is outside shooting.``
    But Knight said some of the Celtics` players ``have told me how valuable he (Buckner) was to them. These people up there (in Indianapolis) just don`t know enough about the game to know how to utilize the guy.
    ``I read some of the garbage that goes on up there, both from the people who write who don`t know anything to people involved with the team who don`t know anything.
    ``It`s a shame for a state that`s as good in basketball as this one is to have a team in professional basketball in the hands of and surrounded by people who don`t know anything about it except for (consultant) Wayne Embry.`` Pacer president Bob Salyers and Embry refused comment on Knight`s criticism.


    http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1986-01-17/sports/8601050249_1_super-bowl-all-american-bowl-clark-kellogg

    But if you don't want to hear it from Knight, how 'bout Phil Jackson?

    RICHFIELD, Ohio — The firing of Quinn Buckner on Tuesday, while not a shock to Bulls coach Phil Jackson, was somewhat disturbing just the same.
    "I think most people in the NBA feel that Quinn, although he hasn't gone through the elements of coaching from ground level to get to head coach, had the kind of knowledge and intellect it would take to be a good coach," Jackson said.

    Jackson said first-year NBA coaches with no previous experience like Buckner should not be discounted so easily.

    http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1...off-type-bulls
    I hear ya. I'm just calling it like I see it.

    I've learned more basketball from Croshere this year than I did from Quinn in five years.
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    and shame on most of you for not simulcasting with Mark and Slick for home games.
    It really is the only way to watch a Pacers game. TV sound down, and bump the Boom Baby crew up to full blast on the nearest radio.

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    I hear ya. I'm just calling it like I see it.

    I've learned more basketball from Croshere this year than I did from Quinn in five years.
    Croshere definitely pays more attention to pointing out and explaining play calls and cuts and screens. I admittedly don't know a ton about the tactical side of the game so it's fun to hear that stuff.

    What I love about Quinn, though, is he has such a deep knowledge of the psychological and emotional side of basketball, which is a skill very view announcers have. The way he calls a game is really narrative and personal and unique.

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    Quinn cause he makes me laugh sometimes. Not a knock on him, he knows his stuff but sometimes he states the obvious and can't help but laugh. Like that moment this season( someone posted it on here):
    Denari: Why did the Pacers lose tonight, Quinn?
    Buckner: Well... they lost cause they were outscored.
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    I love Quinn. He get's really excited and is just fun to listen too. His laugh is like a basketball Santa, and he's got some homer and pacer love in him. Also, he's got no time for soft play.

    Austin is ok. I think he's pretty good, but I really don't like his voice, and he reminds me of Jaws from the old James Bond films
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    I like both and don't really have a preference. I will say that Austin can be hard to understand sometimes, but he is really good I think. On the other hand, Quinn seems to always have an excuse for the players when they do something wrong rather than just saying they made a bad play. I'm super duper thankful we don't have to listen to someone like Stacy King though.
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    I like them both, but I wish that Quinn would just dial it back a touch when the Pacers make a great play, he is so over the top.

    I find Dominique Wilkins when he is the 2nd announcer for the Hawks another really blatant homer.
    The Cavs guy is also very annoying with all his stupid sayings.

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