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    Default 2/20/2013 Game Thread #54: Pacers Vs. Knicks

    FICKS THE KNICKS



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    Eight Points Nine Seconds:
    Mark Evans: The State of the Pacers’ Bench

    With no Danny Granger so far this season, the Indiana Pacers have been a little bit
    thinner than they originally expected. While Paul George has certainly emerged in
    Granger’s absence, the Indiana bench is undeniably weaker with Lance Stephenson
    having to fill a starting role. Despite the fact that much of the bench has been
    underwhelming for most of the season, the Pacers still have some time to figure out
    who can fit into the playoff rotation over the next couple of months.

    Perhaps the biggest disappointment has been Gerald Green, who was signed this
    offseason after providing a decent offensive spark for the Nets last season. In 31
    games last year, Green averaged 18.4 points per 36 minutes on 48% shooting.
    Combined with his 39% from beyond the arc, a PER of 15.8 and freakish athleticism,
    it looked as if the Pacers were getting a nice bargain at $3.5 million per year for a
    backup wing who can provide some punch off the bench.

    Unfortunately for the Pacers, Gerald Green has regressed to resemble the player
    who played his way out of the league following a short stint with Dallas in 2008-09.
    In 43 games this season, his offensive rating is a horrendous 90, and his PER, at
    7.6, is barely half of what you would expect out of an average player. He’s
    converting on less than 35% of his shots from the field, and a laughable 28% from
    three. Defensively, Green is grading slightly better than he normally does, but is
    still probably one of the weaker links on a strong defensive team. By no means did
    anyone expect Gerald Green to look like James Harden or Manu Ginobili off the
    bench, but hardly anyone thought he would struggle this much. It has been painful.

    After dealing Darren Collison, D.J. Augustin was brought into town to provide
    support to George Hill at point guard. While he hasn’t been as disappointing as
    Gerald Green, Augustin has been nothing special. Strangely enough, he is shooting
    almost the exact same percentage from three as he is from the field overall, at
    slightly over 33%. While 33% from the field is not good by any stretch, his
    offensive rating (106) slightly outweighs his defensive rating (104) in the limited
    16 minutes per game he’s playing. His 10.5 points and 5.2 assists per 36 minutes
    don’t jump off the page, but he has been passable in the few minutes he gets.
    Plus, considering how wretched he played at the beginning of the season, the
    transition to mediocre has been a nice turn of events for Indiana. His size issues
    may always present a challenge—as we saw when

    Paul George fouled out against the Nets and George Hill was left helpless having
    to defend the bigger Joe Johnson—but the Pacers can probably get away with
    Augustin in the backup role when the playoffs come around. Although, if
    something happens to George Hill, it will be time to panic.

    On a more positive note, the Pacers have gotten decent work out of their two
    primary backup big men, Tyler Hansbrough and Ian Mahinmi. Both have embodied
    their starter equivalents in small ways; Hansbrough fills the rebounding void that
    occurs when David West leaves the floor, and Mahinmi provides rim protection
    when Roy Hibbert is on the bench. Both continue to be fairly limited offensively,
    with Hansbrough’s offensive rebounding and uncanny knack for getting to the line
    being the main offensive assets between the two of them. For his part, Mahinimi
    doesn’t do anything particularly well, but he can do a little bit of everything: finish
    at the rim, hit an open jumper and cut to the hoop. His bad hands continue to be
    his largest drawback.

    Basically, neither have been studs, but for a combined price of slightly over $7
    million, Indiana has bigger concerns than two backup big men who have been
    fairly productive...CONTINUE READING AT 8p9s


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    Jason Kidd plays basketball with a generosity and grace that seems to
    elude him off the court.




    For all the legitimately “heady” moments strewn across 17 superlative seasons
    – the hundreds of big shots, a Nerds box of triple-doubles, innumerable passes
    threaded through vanishingly narrow angles—Jason Kidd’s game winning three-
    point-and-one against the Brooklyn Nets last month certainly didn’t seem to
    rate terribly highly.

    Lucky—that’s what it was. And pretty ******* stupid, too, considering that
    Kidd actually got away with not one, but twoleg-extending kicks on the shot—
    a mid-air split so graceless and ridiculous it was a wonder that his body
    managed to calibrate itself long enough to get off the shot—either of which
    could’ve easily been called the other way. Neither was, and Kidd’s illusionist
    gambit instead capped an 18-point, six-rebound, six-assist throwback
    performance that helped the Knicks remain atop the Atlantic fold and kept his
    onetime charges a byline below. The Nets haven't been quite the same since.

    So it was lucky, and stupid, but also: it was heady, and it was savvy. Jason
    Kidd has been at it hard enough, and has been paying his wary, laser-sighted
    attention long enough, to identify the rare moments when rules take a back
    seat to context. He understands because he’s been running these lacquer-
    sheen stages since a good grip of his opponents were rocking diapers and
    running head first into table corners. He also understands this because Jason
    Kidd is blessed with a real-time genius that’s both wild and weirdly structured.
    On the court, he thrives in the moment. Off it, those split seconds have
    betrayed him. Or maybe it’s the other way around.

    If the mercurial Melo is the Knicks’ undisputed MVP, then Jason Kidd has
    become arguably their most indispensable player. Game after game, the
    Bockers’ brow-furrowed maestro unfurls found money from his medic’s bag
    of tricks—pinpointperimeter swings, sneaky baseline boards, pump fake
    foul-draws seemingly owed to a magi’s spell. In and by so doing, he has
    resurrected a career that last year had become something of a gilt
    basketball hangover.

    It took him more than a decade to figure out how to shoot, which at first
    looked like a failure but wound up being perfectly timed to earn him five more
    years of NBA paychecks and springtime runs. His most oft-utilized sleight—a
    thespianic behind-the-arc pump fake—resulted in a scar and a fist-sized flesh
    knot in the span of a week earlier this year. He responded to the latter by
    lifting a helmet from the Rangers’ locker room and wearing it during halftime
    shoot-around—a kid’s reaction to the pitfalls of a kid’s game, enacted by a
    player more closely removed from his first Social Security check than many
    of his peers are from their hospital basinets. Viewers and pundits crack wise
    about old man moves, but their laughter, to borrow from Vonnegut, is
    conducted purely in self-defense.

    And Kidd genuinely seems to be enjoying himself, with a level of throwback
    production to match. If the season ended today, his 17.7 player efficiency
    rating (PER) would be his best in five seasons. He’s hitting at 44% from deep,
    one the better marks in the league and the best of his career. That .187 win
    shares per-48 would be his highest mark since Bill Clinton was President, and
    second-highest of his career. The season doesn’t end today, of course, and
    Kidd will have plenty of time to regress and tire and wonder if he really wants
    to spend the next few years getting his head caved in by Andre Drummond.
    For the moment, though, he is playing alarmingly and dazzlingly Jason Kidd-
    like basketball.

    It was just a few months ago, and just a few weeks after signing with the
    Knicks, that Kidd was been taken into police custody after getting snockered
    in the Hamptons and running his white, NBA-issue Cadillac Escalade straight
    into, wait for it, a (****ing) Cablevision telephone pole. No one was hurt, and
    Kidd was eventually released on his own recognizance. Rather than a public
    apology, all we received—NBA viewers, Knick fans, anyone who unknowingly
    shared those narrow roads with a blind-drunk basketball player that night—
    was a cynical, course-par press release stating, in so many words, “My B,
    y’all.”

    Three years and $9 million for a guy already settled into a post-retirement
    cocktail haze? To mentor Jeremy Lin on what, exactly, the fine points of power
    -guzzling Manhattans? But then the Knicks brought back Raymond Felton and
    Lin was cut loose and the incredulous rhetorical questions raised an octave:
    here was a backcourt with an eating problem and a drinking problem. Could we
    camp out in a Coleman tent for season tickets, or do we just have to keep
    fingering “refresh” on our iPhones? What had seemed a savvy and relatively
    low-cost signing looked abhorrent enough for Knick fans to wonder whether a
    Phantom-masked Isiah might be pulling strings in a Quaalude haze from a
    deep Garden bunker.

    But it wasn’t just this most recent, eminently stupid offense, committed before
    the ink on one of the most lucrative assistant player-coaching gigs in NBA
    history had soaked through James Dolan’s puffin skin paper. For Kidd’s is a past
    equal parts statistically quantum and personally checkered; as generous and
    giddily improvisational as he is on the court, Kidd has mostly been kind of a
    loutish wreck off of it...CONTINUE READING AT THE CLASSICAL



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    I sure am glad that ESPN decided to broadcast Hornets vs Cavaliers over this tonight

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    I sure am glad that ESPN decided to broadcast Hornets vs Cavaliers over this tonight
    I am because that means I can watch it on league pass broadband instead of standard definition basic cable.
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    Should be interesting to see how we defend them. Vogel's already said PG is guarding Melo, so that leaves West on who? Kidd?

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    I am because that means I can watch it on league pass broadband instead of standard definition basic cable.
    I can't figure my broadband out, it buffers every 5 seconds and my connection is certainly not being maxed out. I've installed the octoshape plugin, but it did nothing for me. It looked more like a virus than anything. Luckily the DirecTV guy just came out and hooked up the dish at my new place.

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    Loss.




    PS: That's the spirit I know....

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    I can't figure my broadband out, it buffers every 5 seconds and my connection is certainly not being maxed out. I've installed the octoshape plugin, but it did nothing for me. It looked more like a virus than anything. Luckily the DirecTV guy just came out and hooked up the dish at my new place.
    Are you sure octoshape isn't disabled or anything? Have you tried another browser? Mine works great with octoshape.
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    I can't figure my broadband out, it buffers every 5 seconds and my connection is certainly not being maxed out. I've installed the octoshape plugin, but it did nothing for me. It looked more like a virus than anything. Luckily the DirecTV guy just came out and hooked up the dish at my new place.
    Octoshape is pretty sketchy software... it basically enables peer to peer upload/download to provide additional bandwidth. So basically you are paying for league pass, their servers should be providing nice smooth video, but instead you are getting some of your video from Kemo and they are eating your upload. I personally refuse to install it, and won't be paying for league pass in the future.

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    Roy
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    Lance
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    Nice pass, Roy. Nice dunk, Pauly
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    Did Chandler just shot outside of the paint?
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    I don't think Kidd can guard Lance.

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    Wow Lance is just a 64% Ft shooter??

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    Man the older Kidd gets the more he looks like John MCain, amirite???

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    Can't believe the let Felton mug PG like that.
    You can't get champagne from a garden hose.

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    I want PG to put up some weight. LeBron and Melo can score on him in the post. He can bother them with his length but he has to get stronger.

    PG is too good of a defender to get scored on
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    That was not a bad call. That was an atrocious one. Amare was leading with his damn elbow.

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    PG

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    I love Lance. Even his bad decisions are entertaining.

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    I love and hate Lance doing that

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    NOOOOOOOOOOO. Why are we so ugly at fast break, man? 4vs 1 and we blew it. Never mind the foul.

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    Lance, if you want the assist pass to PG
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    Ian
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    After the all star break one of the things to watch out for is the hustle level. You never know how a team will react to the pause.

    So far, so good: the energy's definitely there

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