That's all fair. I acknowledge that I'm not as reachable at 35 as I was at 10 years old. Like I said, part of it has to do with how I've changed and part of it has to do with how the league and team has changed. I now have different responsibilities and and values at 35 than I did at 10 and I don't think that's a bad thing. At 10, all I knew or cared was that Reggie just stuck it to the Knicks (or whoever) and people were talking about the Pacers like a nationally prominent team like they never had before and that was really cool to me. The Pacers/Colts/Yankees/Purdue winning was alot higher in importance to me from 10-20 than it is at 35. I'm not even sure it's possible to develop that same type of connection as I did when I was just a kid.
I feel like I've given plenty of time to the Pacers over the years. While I can't sit through 48 min of regular season NBA basketball anymore, I probably watched large portions of 6-8 regular season games last year when they were playing the Bulls (the local tv team where I live) or I was at someone's house who might have had the NBA ticket or if they happened to be nationally televised. So they have that opportunity to connect to me. They also had all of the playoffs which I think I watched almost all of. It's not as if I completely avoid them but compared to 10 years ago when i probably averaged 75 games a season and playoffs it is a huge dropoff.
Armon Basset and Kelvin Sampson killed IU in 2008 from a competitive standpoint.
The spirit here in Bloomington for the basketball team hasn't changed, however.
Indiana didn't follow the Pacers very well until a big star (Reggie) took the reins. Indiana didn't follow the Colts very well until a big star (Manning) took the reins. Does Indiana appreciate hard-nosed, well-played basketball? Sure we do, and those two stars fit that description. But Indiana fans need to look in the mirror, get off our high horses, and come to grips with the reality that we like stars, too. Stars bring interest. People have to be interested.
There are two types of quarterbacks in the league: Those whom over time, the league figures out ... and those who figure out the league.
My parents won't live forever either but I'll still miss them when they are gone.
Perhaps this is just how the life of a sports fan goes and you never really replace those favorite players you had as a kid.
What percentage of those in attendance at Assembly Hall are a part of the current or past Alumni? My guess is 80%. Mid-Major College teams have the advantage of refreshing their fan base every year. Every year there are a large group of incoming freshmen from other parts of the US that suddenly become IU fans. Their family members tend to start following the team as well. A team like the Pacers will never have that luxury.
The Pacers, since they are still in this period of transition from disappointment to contender, have to go recruit fans.
I've been shocked as well whenever I've come to town. Why is it that the only place you can purchase Pacers apparel is the Homecourt Gift Shop? I went to 3 stores last year before game 1 of the playoffs again Orlando and couldn't find 1 single Pacers t-shirt or hat. It's hard to even find a Pacers cap at one of the hat stores in the Malls. It reminds me of the 86-88 Pacers years when the team was becoming relevant but no one seemed to notice.
Fans, the local media, and merchants are to blame but it seems like the Pacers marketing has really missed the mark the past couple of years. They're making improvements but they really should try spending some more time on the ground.
I'm creating a thread to discuss ideas to get the Pacers Marketing team to come up with some new strategies.
I get it. Yes, we all miss Reggie. That is a given. But moving on is what everyone here has done.
Larkin has retired.
Manning is gone.
Dale Earnhardt is dead.
Dude, its and endless cycle. It happens.
Dude, its and endless cycle. It happens. We all like the Pacers (for partially the same reason that you did) but that carried on into newer players, coaches, etc. Life doesn't just stop because you think it should. It keeps going. We're on a roll (finally) and I respect the fact that you don't care for the NBA, I don't either. But if you don't care then maybe this isn't the place for you.
You can't get champagne from a garden hose.
I agree. But he doesn't like the team anymore because Reggie is gone. That and JO was here.
Last time I checked Jermaine O'Neal was one of the greatest players to put on an Indiana uniform. But OK...
But it didn't carry on to new players for me. The years the Pacers had the likes of Jim O'Brien, Troy Murphy, Mike Dunleavy, and most of all Jermaine O'Neal as the core group I absolutely hated watching the team and major parts of it. They completely lost me so it's not like it just rolled over from then to now. There's a large gap there spanning a number of years where I was just completely soured on the team and league.
I'm not going to pretend that I'm convincing people here to agree with me or my reasoning. I'm just trying to offer my perspective on the problem because I think in the long term it could cost the city the team and even though I'm no longer a big fan like I was I think its positive for the city to have the team. Not everyone out there left the Pacers for the same reasons as me but I think there's probably a significant portion like me. How to re-engage that part of your fan base? I don't have a simple answer to that.
Why are you trying to run off someone who's interest in the Pacers is returning?