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    Also responding to people making excuses. I agree with him in every way. I hope National outlets keep ripping Indy citizens for not supporting Pacers. Deserve all the heat they are getting. Nothing else is working.

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    I normally can't stand Cowherd but he's on point here.
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    I normally can't stand Cowherd but he's on point here.
    Yep - I find Cowherd completely obnoxious, but he is right on this.
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    Wow, he nailed it. One point to Cowherd.

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    Read some of the responses. They don't know anything about the team. It's not a fans are aware of them and don't go to games thing, it's Indiana citizens don't know a thing about these Pacers.

    I really don't know how you fix that. Keep winning I suppose.

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    Read some of the responses. They don't know anything about the team. It's not a fans are aware of them and don't go to games thing, it's Indiana citizens don't know a thing about these Pacers.

    I really don't know how you fix that. Keep winning I suppose.
    That's the only thing that will draw fans back in. You can't ignore continued success.
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    Read some of the responses. They don't know anything about the team. It's not a fans are aware of them and don't go to games thing, it's Indiana citizens don't know a thing about these Pacers.

    I really don't know how you fix that. Keep winning I suppose.
    It wouldn't hurt if half of the games were still on channel 4. I know that is impossible now, but it would have helped because I believe a lot more of these folks would see for themselves that it ain't 2007 anymore.

    Otherwise, I'm not sure. Maybe tackle the 'controversy' head on with media pieces on the local news with headlines like "Are the Pacers still thugs?" that then goes into the story explaining how that is anything but the case. Get Channel 13, 6, 8, FOX to do it. If they're game, of course. I would imagine they would be.

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    It wouldn't hurt if half of the games were still on channel 4. I know that is impossible now, but it would have helped because I believe a lot more of these folks would see for themselves that it ain't 2007 anymore.

    Otherwise, I'm not sure. Maybe tackle the 'controversy' head on with media pieces on the local news with headlines like "Are the Pacers still thugs?" that then goes into the story explaining how that is anything but the case. Get Channel 13, 6, 8, FOX to do it. If they're game, of course. I would imagine they would be.
    Sorry, this is part of what I was talking about.

    I could not agree more,

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    Read some of the responses. They don't know anything about the team. It's not a fans are aware of them and don't go to games thing, it's Indiana citizens don't know a thing about these Pacers.

    I really don't know how you fix that. Keep winning I suppose.
    It's beyond embarrassing. When NATIONAL audiences know the team more and are more interested than the local citizens...well the excuses just fall extremely false.

    I don't need more ranting I suppose, I've spoken my peace on this tenfold already.

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    He is on point here. That said, was Indiana ever known as a big time NBA Market?

    When I hear Indiana basketball I think college and high school (aka Hoosiers, Purdue, IU, Bob Knight, Keady, etc...)

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    He's not wrong.

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    Ultimately, I believe if the locals (I won't call them fans) wanted to be there, they'd find excuses to go. Since they don't want to be there, they find excuses to stay away.

    I don't know what will flick that switch, but if/when it does, things will change dramatically, I think.

    I almost think it will take another 'Reggie moment' in the playoffs. A game winner 3ball against Miami might help.

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    I wouldn't be surprised if Frank isn't using the empty seats as a motivational tool. The whole "us against the world" mentality is oft-discussed, but really couldn't be more appropriate for this Pacers teams. Our own city doesn't even show up for games.

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    Well we do have 4 All-Stars...not many teams can say that!
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    Well we do have 4 All-Stars...not many teams can say that!
    God will you people stop with the 4 all stars. We had 1 all star. A true all star makes it multiple times not just once. Danny Granger was an all star 1 time. He won't be again. Hibbert has proven to be a fluke. David West has made it more than once and was probably deserving this year. Paul will make it several times IMO. The pacers have a good team and to me they are entertaining and fun to watch now. But alot of people could care less about them. Pacer management has got to figure that out and do something about it. This year they would be able to contend if added a couple of things. I think they need a shooter and a back up PG. It looks like they may stand pat. An early out in the playoffs will only contribute to fan apathy and set them back a little.

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    God will you people stop with the 4 all stars. We had 1 all star. A true all star makes it multiple times not just once. Danny Granger was an all star 1 time. He won't be again. Hibbert has proven to be a fluke. David West has made it more than once and was probably deserving this year. Paul will make it several times IMO. The pacers have a good team and to me they are entertaining and fun to watch now. But alot of people could care less about them. Pacer management has got to figure that out and do something about it. This year they would be able to contend if added a couple of things. I think they need a shooter and a back up PG. It looks like they may stand pat. An early out in the playoffs will only contribute to fan apathy and set them back a little.

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    Cowhered, like many here, doesn't understand that it's hard to undo SIX YEARS of ill will in just two seasons. I don't think people appreciate just how badly the Pacers ruined their image in the community from 2004-2010. You don't recover from that sort of devastation in just two seasons when you don't have a household name on the team. We are making process though, slowly but surely. We just have to keep winning.

    People want to point the finger at the fans and not the organization which delivered an abysmal product over a six year period and completely tarnished their image. They have made amazing moves over the past few seasons, mostly because of Larry Legend, but the shadow of the ugly years still looms large.

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    Cowhered, like many here, doesn't understand that it's hard to undo SIX YEARS of ill will in just two seasons. I don't think people appreciate just how badly the Pacers ruined their image in the community from 2004-2010. You don't recover from that sort of devastation in just two seasons when you don't have a household name on the team. We are making process though, slowly but surely. We just have to keep winning.

    People want to point the finger at the fans and not the organization which delivered an abysmal product over a six year period and completely tarnished their image. They have made amazing moves over the past few seasons, mostly because of Larry Legend, but the shadow of the ugly years still looms large.
    That's all well and good if we want to blame PS&E for creating this mess.

    But that doesn't help with the new problem: Those fame folks who stopped caring don't even seem to know what the hell is going on anymore! It would be perfectly fair IMO to excuse their absence if things hadn't changed, but they HAVE DRASTICALLY CHANGED! They're living on 6 year old information now, and it's well past time they be educated as to what the hell is ACTUALLY HAPPENING at the Fieldhouse now.

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    There was nothing wrong in the JOB - Murphy - Dunleavy era PR-wise except bad basketball.

    JOB was an awful coach for the Pacers BUT he did manage to cut ties with all of the thug imaginery that the Pacers had in the ensuing years of the brawl.
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    There was nothing wrong in the JOB - Murphy - Dunleavy era PR-wise except bad basketball.

    JOB was an awful coach for the Pacers BUT he did manage to cut ties with all of the thug imaginery that the Pacers had in the ensuing years of the brawl.
    That coach (I still refuse to say his name) didn't do that. Larry Bird did. The coach did nothing more than take a band of misfit players who just happened to be pretty good citizens (thanks to Larry making sure of that) and teach them that spacing the floor was the most important method of winning basketball games.
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    That coach (I still refuse to say his name) didn't do that. Larry Bird did. The coach did nothing more than take a band of misfit players who just happened to be pretty good citizens (thanks to Larry making sure of that) and teach them that spacing the floor was the most important method of winning basketball games.
    I certainly agree with that. It was indeed Larry's doing but I have to include JOB as well since he was the coach.

    My main point was that the JOB era sucked a lot basketball-wise but PR-wise there weren't any issues.
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    Assuming he's still on his pout that his Patriots lost to the Ravens
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    Cowhered, like many here, doesn't understand that it's hard to undo SIX YEARS of ill will in just two seasons. I don't think people appreciate just how badly the Pacers ruined their image in the community from 2004-2010. You don't recover from that sort of devastation in just two seasons when you don't have a household name on the team. We are making process though, slowly but surely. We just have to keep winning.

    People want to point the finger at the fans and not the organization which delivered an abysmal product over a six year period and completely tarnished their image. They have made amazing moves over the past few seasons, mostly because of Larry Legend, but the shadow of the ugly years still looms large.
    This as well.

    I use the weight loss comparison a lot, but it is true.

    Things are not going to recover overnight. It takes time.

    And IMO a deep playoff run will help....a lot.

    At least I hope that is the case.

    Perhaps I am just naive, but I remember the fieldhouse the finals year. I remember it being a packed house. I want that so bad I would sell my soul to get that back (if I had a soul)

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    This is sadly true, but I think Indy needs to wake up and realize that Cowherd has a point
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    I caught a little of JMV today and I think Cowhered also said people to go to Pacers games because Indianapolis is racist?

    I use to think that people didn't go to Pacers games for a number of reasons including

    - Lack of money
    - No star player
    - They weren't winning
    - The brawl
    - Off the court issues
    - Style of play

    In the end I think what it comes down to is Indiana just isn't an NBA state. The typical NBA fan is probably a bigger fan of the star player than they are the team. Since the Pacers don't have a star you won't see many Pacer fans fill the arena. People here enjoy high school and college more. At one time sure people would come out to see Pacer games but that era is over and this one is much different. This is more of an NBA problem than a Pacers problem. The national media didn't care before when nobody came to watch the Pacers at home but all of a sudden they are.

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