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    Default Best Young All-Star: PG or Kyrie?

    I think this is a tough question to answer, because these things aren't in a vacuum, but if you had an expansion franchise, and the option of choosing 1 player to start your team with, who do you choose?

    I think there are very good arguments that can be made for both.

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    Default Re: Best Young All-Star: PG or Kyrie?

    I love Paul George, but really? Maybe it's just me, but I would take Kyrie without question.

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    I love Paul George, but really? Maybe it's just me, but I would take Kyrie without question.
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    Default Re: Best Young All-Star: PG or Kyrie?

    Why are Chris Paul and then Rondo considered the 2 ELITE PGs in the NBA? It is because they effect the game multi-dimensionally... Chris Paul is an ELITE scorer, but both have great vision and are ELITE defenders.

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    Default Re: Best Young All-Star: PG or Kyrie?

    This is tough, I love Kyrie, earlier this season I expressed he may be my favorite young player to watch in the NBA. But historically big time wings win more than big time point guards. Paul has physical gifts that Kyrie will never have.

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    This is tough, I love Kyrie, earlier this season I expressed he may be my favorite young player to watch in the NBA. But historically big time wings win more than big time point guards. Paul has physical gifts that Kyrie will never have.
    I agree with this in a lot of ways, but I don't know if PG would be the winged player I start my franchise with. (Don't kill me for saying that! lol). quite frankly my dream would be to just have them both on the same team

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    Default Re: Best Young All-Star: PG or Kyrie?

    The fact that we're having this conversation, and it's LEGITIMATELY a conversation; shows just how much Paul has grown as a player this year lol.

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    The fact that we're having this conversation, and it's LEGITIMATELY a conversation; shows just how much Paul has grown as a player this year lol.

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    Yea, very good point.. I think last year I wouldn't have even put PG in the same category as Irving, so to be doing so is a testament to PG. I think a year ago I had hopes of what PG could be, but I'll admit that I had reservations and maybe even doubts... and that may be erased now. But I don't have and have never had reservations about Kyrie. I've always watched him and thought he was going to be very, very special. He's not like John Wall, who has always struck me as being insanely physically gifted and maybe not so much mentally gifted. Kyrie has a maturity and vision and feel for the game about him that is just rare.
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    The fact that we're having this conversation, and it's LEGITIMATELY a conversation; shows just how much Paul has grown as a player this year lol.

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    It is crazy. So many things have gone into his improvement, but overall I think his improvement in dribbling opens everything else up. Now he can dribble with his head up and make better plays.

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    This is tough, I love Kyrie, earlier this season I expressed he may be my favorite young player to watch in the NBA. But historically big time wings win more than big time point guards. Paul has physical gifts that Kyrie will never have.
    That's my view. As we discussed during the game, there was reason Spo (too late) took out Kryie and put Paul back in late in that game - he wanted to win and needed defense and threes.

    Irving is amazing, maybe better handles that Chris Paul. But PG can do everything and that includes guarding Irving at times. Irving is more of a very talented specialist while PG has become the "whatever you need done" guy while somehow being really strong in most of those areas. He doesn't have one thing he does as well as Irving's best thing (handles) but he impacts the game more in total.

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    Default Re: Best Young All-Star: PG or Kyrie?

    That is a really tough question. Both are very, very good right now and are going to be great.

    But I guess since I think the point guard is the most important position on the floor, I might go with Kyrie. And yet if you have a wing player thaT creates the offense, maybe you don't need the point guard, so maybe I'd take George.

    The only answer I would disagree with is the "that's easy, I'll take......"

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    That is a really tough question. Both are very, very good right now and are going to be great.

    But I guess since I think the point guard is the most important position on the floor, I might go with Kyrie. And yet if you have a wing player thaT creates the offense, maybe you don't need the point guard, so maybe I'd take George.

    I think a month agao I would have answered differently. But Paul has shown the ability recently to be the creator in the offense. Heck, Spo was running Lebron's sets for Paul in the 4th quarter last ngiht. Getting him the ball off a screen and having him go to the hoop with the option to kick to a shooter in the corner (Kyrie) or try and finish himself.

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    Default Re: Best Young All-Star: PG or Kyrie?

    Kyrie is the 1 not all-world guy (yet) that I would trade PG for, and even then I would be really nervous.
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    I absolutely love PG, but I think Irving is the next generations top player, he's a very special talent. He's marketable, too... Uncle Drew is some good stuff.
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    I do love Uncle Drew. Best commercial in a long time.

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    Default Re: Best Young All-Star: PG or Kyrie?

    I think the best argument for choosing Paul George is Lebron James. In my opinion, Kyrie is the better, more exciting player.

    But he can't guard Lebron James.

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    Default Re: Best Young All-Star: PG or Kyrie?

    I'm taking Kyrie, but like I mentioned in the other thread these two guys are both going to be superstars.

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    Default Re: Best Young All-Star: PG or Kyrie?

    Last point guard to be the true superstar of a title winning team? Isaiah? I mean we talk titles on here so often. Can a guy be "Batman". The wing has produced way more Batmans.

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    Default Re: Best Young All-Star: PG or Kyrie?

    Also, I know our team is better than Cleveland, but we are not 32-21 without Paul george doing Paul George-y things so far this year. And Cleveland is currently 16-37.

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    Kyrie had a far better All Star weekend, but I'd rather have Paul on my team if that's the point of this thread
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    Default Re: Best Young All-Star: PG or Kyrie?

    So if Cleveland called up the Pacers and said Kyrie for Paul, you guys are all doing it huh? I don't think anyone can accuse PD of being homers anymore.

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    So if Cleveland called up the Pacers and said Kyrie for Paul, you guys are all doing it huh? I don't think anyone can accuse PD of being homers anymore.
    No kidding. This shocks me, very few homers on this board. No way I trade PG for Kyrie, but thats just me I guess.

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    Default Re: Best Young All-Star: PG or Kyrie?

    How can you NOT go with Kyrie?

    I mean I understand that he "can't guard Lebron" but it's not like Paul is causing Lebron to shoot under 50% either. NOBODY can stop Lebron, so to me that's irrelevant.

    If I'm starting a franchise I'm taking the 20 year old Irving, and trying to surround him with some talent.

    He's already got a great handle, has shown the ability to be clutch, can shoot, can drive, can pass, has size..you could go on and on. But the fact that he's already this good and is 2 years younger than the "still coming into his own" Paul George is another selling point.

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    How can you NOT go with Kyrie?

    I mean I understand that he "can't guard Lebron" but it's not like Paul is causing Lebron to shoot under 50% either. NOBODY can stop Lebron, so to me that's irrelevant.

    If I'm starting a franchise I'm taking the 20 year old Irving, and trying to surround him with some talent.

    He's already got a great handle, has shown the ability to be clutch, can shoot, can drive, can pass, has size..you could go on and on. But the fact that he's already this good and is 2 years younger than the "still coming into his own" Paul George is another selling point.
    I will say this though--Kyrie is a tad injury prone, whereas Paul has been healthy so far throughout his career. That's something you can't take for granted

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    Who's a better talent and player? Kyrie Irving, no question. Not to say that won't change.

    Who do you a better chance to win with? Paul George
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