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    Why is this trade "too good to be true"? Millsap is a good player but he's also an expiring and Hayward hasn't shown anything special with the minutes he's been given.
    Hayward is averaging 18ppg per 36, is quick, and has good defense. He's not shooting as well as he usually does this year but he's got a good all-around game.

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    Default Re: ESPN ecploring a Jazz and Pacers trade

    Just found this video. I'm assuming this is where the Granger trade idea came from. Skip to about the 2:12 mark.


    Doesn't look like it's a real rumor or anything.

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    Think about what? How awesome the drugs in Salt Lake City must be?
    No kidding, I love Danny but this is about as good a scenario you could ever hope if you have to part ways with him. We send him to a team where he can be the perimeter scoring threat and probably still make the playoffs and we address all our long term needs. This is way too good to be true.

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    Default Re: ESPN ecploring a Jazz and Pacers trade

    that plays a lot like an ESPN producer said "hey, trade deadline's this week. let's put together a spot showing how the Trade Machine works and get a bunch of traffic to the site."

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    Makes no sense for the Jazz..

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    Hayward is averaging 18ppg per 36, is quick, and has good defense. He's not shooting as well as he usually does this year but he's got a good all-around game.
    As the poster you quoted said, "I'm not seeing anything special" from those numbers you posted.

    Hayward is a pretty good player, I always think of a quicker/more athletic version of Mike Dunleavy (pre/knee injury) which isn't too bad at all.

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    Hayward would be perfect for our bench. As would Milsap. Frankly this trade is just a tease because it would make us clearly the best team in the East other than Miami and a front court rotation of West, Hibbert, Milsap, and Mahinmi would be absolute murder on the Heat.

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    The guy in the video pretty clearly said that this trade will probably not happen but they just used it as an example of what could happen as the trade deadline looms.
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    rather try and get bledsoe
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    rather try and get bledsoe
    You mean Utah should (which was a previous rumor), or the Pacers should? If you are speaking of the Pacers, why would you rather have one pretty good player as opposed to two?

    Nothing wrong with Bledsoe, but I'd rather have the two guys from Utah - IF Millsap signs an extension.
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    Can Milsap signing an extension be part of the deal? Or is it required he have his free agency this summer?
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    I'd rather us try to get Bledsoe. Bledsoe>Hill IMO


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    Pacers trade for Milsap and Hayward.

    Flip Milsap + filler for Bledsoe + filler

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    Jazz receive:

    Danny Granger
    1st round pick

    Pacers receive:

    Paul Millsap
    Gordon Hayward.


    I really hope this doesnt turn into the truth.
    I do not believe this for a second, Utah is not that stupid. But, if the Pacers can make this trade, pull the trigger quick..... ...

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    if clippers go for granger, it would be bledsoe + someone else to make salaries work. if lac wanted a backup pg we can send them dj. i read where clippers fans are growing tired of caron butler so add him in and salaries would be pretty close.

    bledsoe + butler for granger + dj + hans (if they wanted)
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    if clippers go for granger, it would be bledsoe + someone else to make salaries work. if lac wanted a backup pg we can send them dj. i read where clippers fans are growing tired of caron butler so add him in and salaries would be pretty close.

    bledsoe + butler for granger + dj + hans (if they wanted)
    We cannot give them Granger + DJ + Hans. The salaries do not work.

    If we were to include DJ + Hans ($19,613,865) they would have to cut $7,379,215 off their books. So, they would need to add Lamar Odom as well to make the salaries work.

    However, Danny Granger for Bledsoe + Butler + Trey Thompkins would work.
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    If were going to make such a deal I would look to include Orlando.

    This works financially:

    Pacers receives: Paul Millsap and JJ Redick

    Utah receives: Danny Granger + Pacers 1st

    Orlando receives: Gordon Hayward and Tyler Hansbrough

    Obviously by making this deal were going all-in this year as both guys are free agents this summer and theres a good chance we won't be able to keep both. I think Orlando makes the deal. They are probably losing Redick for nothing this summer so getting Hayward on a rookie deal is a good return. Tyler is probably just a rental for them. Utah is the wildcard. If Danny was 100% healthy and had no knee concerns I think they make the deal but right now I doubt they go for it unfortunately.

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    If were going to make such a deal I would look to include Orlando.

    This works financially:

    Pacers receives: Paul Millsap and JJ Redick

    Utah receives: Danny Granger + Pacers 1st

    Orlando receives: Gordon Hayward and Tyler Hansbrough

    Obviously by making this deal were going all-in this year as both guys are free agents this summer and theres a good chance we won't be able to keep both. I think Orlando makes the deal. They are probably losing Redick for nothing this summer so getting Hayward on a rookie deal is a good return. Tyler is probably just a rental for them. Utah is the wildcard. If Danny was 100% healthy and had no knee concerns I think they make the deal but right now I doubt they go for it unfortunately.
    Danny and a 1st for 2 expirings that won't be resigned. Not a fan, but it could make the Pacers formidable in the playoffs. Too huge a gamble for a small market team to be making. If Hayward were coming here and Milsap going to Orland, then yes.
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    Default Re: ESPN ecploring a Jazz and Pacers trade

    If getting Bledsoe and butler meant taking on odom for a year I would be all in for that deal while only losing granger
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    http://www.pacersdigest.com/showthre...and-UTAH/page2

    Find the 10 differences

    I still view Granger as the best offensive option of the package, so I still think it's good value for both teams. Wouldn't do it anymore though. We need the scoring and experience more than we need another very good allround wing who can score allright and Millsap is expiring and not that much needed with West here.

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