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LET'S BRING THE NBA ALL STAR GAME TO INDIANAPOLIS.

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  • #31
    Re: LET'S BRING THE NBA ALL STAR GAME TO INDIANAPOLIS.

    Bill you're being a little over dramatic lol


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    • #32
      Re: LET'S BRING THE NBA ALL STAR GAME TO INDIANAPOLIS.

      Originally posted by Trader Joe View Post
      Bill you're being a little over dramatic lol
      ME? NEVER! I AM NEVER OVER DRAMATIC!
      BillS

      A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.
      Or throw in a first-round pick and flip it for a max-level point guard...

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      • #33
        Re: LET'S BRING THE NBA ALL STAR GAME TO INDIANAPOLIS.

        Originally posted by Mackey_Rose View Post
        The only, and even this is very flimsy, argument that can be made that STH's deserve first rights to ancillary events (such as an ASG, concerts, boxing matches, etc.) at the Fieldhouse is if the Pacers forced them to buy PSL's.

        That isn't the case.
        "deserve"?

        Or actually do?

        I'm not sure they have the right to their exact same seats. Box owners do, and perhaps club level. But there may be presale rights or other benefits. As I said in last week's thread on the same topic, our work tickets for the Bulls/ Blackhawks allow us into the presales or the right to purchase our regular ticket to an event.

        The question is different, though. Why would the Pacers front office work that hard for something that they can't sell to their regular customers. A related question, as I think this actually is an NBA event and not a team event, is why the Pacers front office would work that hard for league-shared revenue.

        I actually think their split of the revenue may be the same if Houston or the Pacers host it.
        Why do the things that we treasure most, slip away in time
        Till to the music we grow deaf, to God's beauty blind
        Why do the things that connect us slowly pull us apart?
        Till we fall away in our own darkness, a stranger to our own hearts
        And life itself, rushing over me
        Life itself, the wind in black elms,
        Life itself in your heart and in your eyes, I can't make it without you

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        • #34
          Re: LET'S BRING THE NBA ALL STAR GAME TO INDIANAPOLIS.

          I'm sure Jim Irsay'd be all for it

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          • #35
            Re: LET'S BRING THE NBA ALL STAR GAME TO INDIANAPOLIS.

            Originally posted by BillS View Post
            Hey, I've got an idea! Let's have all STHs give their tickets away to all out-of-town attendees for ANY regular season game against a big-name opponent! That would make sure someone comes into town and spends their money for the city and wouldn't bother ANYONE important at all! We could cram the Fieldhouse with out-of-town Lakers, Chicago, Miami, and NY fans and the city could rake in the hotel rooms, while all those pesky and useless season ticket holders could stay home and write checks for next year!
            Really?.....We are talking about a one off event for the NBA that represents multiple teams and its fans, not just Pacer players, why shouldn't it be open to everybody. And I don't believe anyone is being asked to "give their tickets away". That's like saying the Super Bowl in Indy should have been filled with all Colts STH because its in Lucas Oil, even though the Colts weren't playing.
            I know "Sleeze" is spelled incorrectly. I spell it this way because it's based on a name.

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            • #36
              Re: LET'S BRING THE NBA ALL STAR GAME TO INDIANAPOLIS.

              Originally posted by The Sleeze View Post
              why shouldn't it be open to everybody.

              It would be.

              There is nothing stopping anybody right now from buying season tickets. BLF is not sold old. You'd also guarantee your NBA Finals/ ECF/ semifinals/ quarterfinals tickets (I probably should get on this myself before its too late.)

              Meanwhile, it was Indiana Sports Corp. that put on the Super Bowl, not the Indianapolis Colts.
              Why do the things that we treasure most, slip away in time
              Till to the music we grow deaf, to God's beauty blind
              Why do the things that connect us slowly pull us apart?
              Till we fall away in our own darkness, a stranger to our own hearts
              And life itself, rushing over me
              Life itself, the wind in black elms,
              Life itself in your heart and in your eyes, I can't make it without you

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              • #37
                Re: LET'S BRING THE NBA ALL STAR GAME TO INDIANAPOLIS.

                Originally posted by ChicagoJ View Post
                It would be.
                Exactly, and STH could buy them and non-STH could buy them. STH just wouldn't have exclusive rights to them.

                I don't know what prompted Bill to go off on a tirade.
                I know "Sleeze" is spelled incorrectly. I spell it this way because it's based on a name.

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                • #38
                  Re: LET'S BRING THE NBA ALL STAR GAME TO INDIANAPOLIS.

                  Originally posted by ChicagoJ View Post
                  The question is different, though. Why would the Pacers front office work that hard for something that they can't sell to their regular customers. A related question, as I think this actually is an NBA event and not a team event, is why the Pacers front office would work that hard for league-shared revenue.

                  I actually think their split of the revenue may be the same if Houston or the Pacers host it.
                  Maybe because it benefits the business owners who buy season tickets by bringing in outside money? Maybe because it can warm up some interest in NBA basketball in a community who was beaten down my years of futility and bad characters among their local franchise? Maybe because they realize how incredibly shortsighted it is to dismiss the idea because it wouldn't directly put more money their already well lined pockets? Maybe because it benefits the ****ing city who bends over backwards to meet their demands?

                  I don't know. Maybe something.
                  "I had to take her down like Chris Brown."

                  -Lance Stephenson

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                  • #39
                    Re: LET'S BRING THE NBA ALL STAR GAME TO INDIANAPOLIS.

                    Originally posted by BRushWithDeath View Post
                    Maybe because it benefits the business owners who buy season tickets by bringing in outside money? Maybe because it can warm up some interest in NBA basketball in a community who was beaten down my years of futility and bad characters among their local franchise? Maybe because they realize how incredibly shortsighted it is to dismiss the idea because it wouldn't directly put more money their already well lined pockets? Maybe because it benefits the ****ing city who bends over backwards to meet their demands?

                    I don't know. Maybe something.
                    So you're saying that the Pacers should be rechartered as a nonprofit and just concern themselves with providing public benefits? Isn't that the role of ISC?
                    Why do the things that we treasure most, slip away in time
                    Till to the music we grow deaf, to God's beauty blind
                    Why do the things that connect us slowly pull us apart?
                    Till we fall away in our own darkness, a stranger to our own hearts
                    And life itself, rushing over me
                    Life itself, the wind in black elms,
                    Life itself in your heart and in your eyes, I can't make it without you

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                    • #40
                      Re: LET'S BRING THE NBA ALL STAR GAME TO INDIANAPOLIS.

                      Originally posted by The Sleeze View Post
                      Exactly, and STH could buy them and non-STH could buy them. STH just wouldn't have exclusive rights to them.

                      I don't know what prompted Bill to go off on a tirade.
                      Well, your implication was that STHs would take up seats that should go to out-of-towners, not even to the other people in Indianapolis who wanted seats. By extension, that out-of-towners are worth more to the city than STHs. By extension, that it would be even better for the city if out-of-towners went to all the games instead of local STHs. By extension, we should eat all the poor children *


                      In any event, I believe the way ASG tickets are split up there would only be about 1000 available for anyone in Indiana, STH or otherwise. The rest go to the other teams, to the media, and so forth. As I understand it, that's the biggest reason for the objection - they can't even provide a large enough group of fans the tickets, much less STHs.

                      * Literary reference to "A Modest Proposal" by Dean Jonathan Swift
                      BillS

                      A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.
                      Or throw in a first-round pick and flip it for a max-level point guard...

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                      • #41
                        Re: LET'S BRING THE NBA ALL STAR GAME TO INDIANAPOLIS.

                        Originally posted by ChicagoJ View Post
                        So you're saying that the Pacers should be rechartered as a nonprofit and just concern themselves with providing public benefits? Isn't that the role of ISC?
                        Sometimes you have to spend money to make money and a ASG could be an event to stimulate Pacer fans as well as stimulate everything else around the 3 day event.

                        But I guess a franchise don't care when they have billions.
                        Garbage players get 1st round picks, (WTF)! All of the NBA must hate the Pacers! LOL

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                        • #42
                          Re: LET'S BRING THE NBA ALL STAR GAME TO INDIANAPOLIS.

                          Originally posted by Pacer Fan View Post
                          Sometimes you have to spend money to make money and a ASG could be an event to stimulate Pacer fans as well as stimulate everything else around the 3 day event.

                          But I guess a franchise don't care when they have billions.

                          How are they going to make money on this?

                          They're going to cover all the costs, share the revenue with the other 29 teams, and spend the bulk of a year distracted from running their own business/ team.

                          Hey, I'm all-for having ISC put it on.

                          But don't villify the Pacers for not acting like a public service entity when they're a for-profit business. (Just not a very good for-profit business.)
                          Why do the things that we treasure most, slip away in time
                          Till to the music we grow deaf, to God's beauty blind
                          Why do the things that connect us slowly pull us apart?
                          Till we fall away in our own darkness, a stranger to our own hearts
                          And life itself, rushing over me
                          Life itself, the wind in black elms,
                          Life itself in your heart and in your eyes, I can't make it without you

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                          • #43
                            Re: LET'S BRING THE NBA ALL STAR GAME TO INDIANAPOLIS.

                            Originally posted by Pacer Fan View Post
                            Sometimes you have to spend money to make money and a ASG could be an event to stimulate Pacer fans as well as stimulate everything else around the 3 day event.

                            But I guess a franchise don't care when they have billions.
                            I believe the initial decision by the Simons was on the heels of a study showing an ASG really DOESN'T increase basketball popularity where it is held. It just increases popularity for the stars at the game, which the NBA doesn't need the help of the Pacers to manage, on top of actually ticking off the existing fans of the local franchise.

                            But, that really can't be the reason, it must be because the Simons want to keep the billions they make from the Pacers every year locked in the big money vault on Pennsylvania St. where they can swim in it.
                            BillS

                            A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.
                            Or throw in a first-round pick and flip it for a max-level point guard...

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                            • #44
                              Re: LET'S BRING THE NBA ALL STAR GAME TO INDIANAPOLIS.

                              Originally posted by ChicagoJ View Post
                              How are they going to make money on this?

                              They're going to cover all the costs, share the revenue with the other 29 teams, and spend the bulk of a year distracted from running their own business/ team.

                              Hey, I'm all-for having ISC put it on.

                              But don't villify the Pacers for not acting like a public service entity when they're a for-profit business. (Just not a very good for-profit business.)
                              I guess I don't know enough of the enter workings, but I'd think the sales of everything surrounding the ticket sale would not be shared. I'd think they better stock up on everything Pacers as a lot of stuff would be sold and out of that Pacers get walking billboards all over central Indiana and that can be priceless.
                              Garbage players get 1st round picks, (WTF)! All of the NBA must hate the Pacers! LOL

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                              • #45
                                Re: LET'S BRING THE NBA ALL STAR GAME TO INDIANAPOLIS.

                                Originally posted by BillS View Post
                                I believe the initial decision by the Simons was on the heels of a study showing an ASG really DOESN'T increase basketball popularity where it is held. It just increases popularity for the stars at the game, which the NBA doesn't need the help of the Pacers to manage, on top of actually ticking off the existing fans of the local franchise.

                                But, that really can't be the reason, it must be because the Simons want to keep the billions they make from the Pacers every year locked in the big money vault on Pennsylvania St. where they can swim in it.
                                Yep, your right ASG comes to a city and nobody spends money on the local franchise. No interest in that ****ed up, worthless piece of **** team. So all the locals buys all the other teams memorabilia. What the hell was I thinking.
                                Garbage players get 1st round picks, (WTF)! All of the NBA must hate the Pacers! LOL

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