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  • #1

    "The Mavericks are a Business"

    Great blog post by Mark Cuban:

    http://blogmaverick.com/2013/02/12/t...ike-any-other/

    When you own a professional sports team it doesn’t take long to realize that owning a team is unlike owning any other business. On one hand the competitive side of ownership is a driving force. I want to win championships. I want to win every game. Not just for me, but for the entire organization and all of North Texas and for Mavs fans everywhere. Thirteen years into owning the Mavs and it still hurts every time we lose. I still have a hard time sleeping after any game we lose.

    On the other side, the Mavs are a business. I want to make a profit. But unlike every other business, making the most money possible is not a driving motivation. I try to recognize that Mav’s fans aren’t only about wins and losses. I have to realize that many, if not most Mavs fans don’t call talk radio shows. They don’t tweet about what went right or wrong during each game. In fact, while they want the Mavs to win, they are Mavs fans, win or lose. In fact, I was one of those fans before I bought the Mavs. We had a horrible team the entire run of my owning season tickets. It didn’t matter. I was a fan first.

    But to some Mavs fans the Mavs are more than just a game. They are a release. They are a connection to other family members. They are an escape from the realities of a very difficult life. There are fans who love the Mavs because it makes their lives better.

    THere are not many businesses that can begin to have that kind of impact on their customers/fans.

    It is this connection that also drives me to make sure that every Mavs game is about far more than basketball. I want to make sure that every time any fan walks into the American Airlines Center they know that they will feel special. They will have a special experience. They will have an emotional connection. They will feel an energy and excitement they can not get anywhere else. They will be able to see a look of joy in their family members. They will know that we respect the financial, emotional and time investment they have made in our Mavs. In a years time they won’t remember the score, or even a single play from the game, but they will remember who they were with and how they felt during the game.

    It is a special trust that is incumbent on me and all Mavs employees to live up to. It is expensive to deliver on this goal. But it is worth every penny. No matter what it costs. I’m proud of the fact that the Mavs spend, by all accounts, more than any other team in any sport around the world on in game entertainment and experience. While other teams worry about wi-fi and apps, we worry about creating an experience that is unique to Mavs games.

    I wanted to share a very small sampling of emails that have come in over the last few weeks. There were many more. A special thanks to all Mavs employees who know just how important what we do is to our community.

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    Dear Mark,
    A friend of mine gave me your email. I have a friend who has a 15 year old boy with an inoperable brain tumor. He left MD Anderson today after the doctors telling him there was nothing else they could do for him. We are from OK and they are on their way home tonight. They are attending the game tonight. I called the head office and was able to get him in the “high five line”! He’s making his bucket list on the drive home and the first item on the list is meeting ****** Is there anyway you could make this kid have a great evening after this horrible day? He’s a great kid with a very positive attitude and has just been handed his death sentence. Thank you so much for your time in reading this!!

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    Mark,
    I received an invitation to select someone to present a game ball at one of the Mavericks home games. I can’t tell you how thrilled and what a blessing it has been to extend this opportunity to patients. I wanted to share one of my experiences.

    There is a patient that is a single mother of 2 young children that does not have a good prognosis. We thought this would be an exciting opportunity for her and her kids. When I sat down to talk with her about, the look of joy that came over her face, as she was sitting in our infusion room receiving her chemotherapy treatment, cannot be described. I want to thank you for giving us this opportunity. The generosity of the Mavericks organization is second to none. The generosity spills over and blesses others, like me, who got to see the joy as I talked to her about what she would be doing.

    Thank you so much to the Mavericks organization for not just providing us with entertainment and team to route for, but for making a difference in our community.

    ----


    Mr. Cuban,
    I would like to commend your staff at the Mavs. My coworker Robin was hesitant to even contact your staff. She wanted to something special for her brother. Besides her brother being special needs he has been diagnosed with cancer. He is not a child physically but he just does not understand what is happening to him but he loves Basketball. So as a Mavs fan myself I would like to bring to your attention the special thing your staff is doing to make a light at the end of the tunnel for this special man. It is a great thing to witness that the Mavs go above and beyond as small as it may seem to the Mavs it is huge to this gentleman.

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    Hello Mark,
    Just wanted to THANK YOU for an awesome overall experience we had at the MAVS game Friday night. I was lucky enough to receive two tickets from a friend who had to go out of town at the last minutes, and was able to take my 12 year old daughter to her first MAVS game. I watch every MAVS game on TV, and she’ll watch about half of them, but 12 year olds have a lot more distractions to deal with. The entire vibe of the building was just electric, and you don’t get that feel on TV. When I asked her what the favorite part of the night was, she listed the MAVS dancers, the Maniac dancers cracked her up, the drum line, and of course the game itself! You are a guy who puts is information out there, and I’m sure you get more complaints and questions, but I just wanted to make sure to let you know what a great time we had! Her one time being there has her looking at the schedule for all the next games on TV!! She is now an MFFL!!!

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    Hi Mr. Cuban. I am *****s mom. She is one of the Maverick’s ballkids. This is her second year in the program. I just wanted to say thank you for creating this wonderful environment for my child to learn and grow. The program has given her SO much confidence. She has loved the Mavericks for as long as I can remember. You may be the only one more passionate about the team than her, seriously. We make her watch the games in her own area of the house if she isn’t at the game. You have made the NBA exciting and you have created the Mavs to be a beloved team. The excitement and love you show for this team teaches everyone what true passion can create. Those are the things that my daughter learns from you.

    ----

    Mark
    The picture I’ve sent you is of my 13 year old brother ******! He is on the Wheelchair Junior Mavs team in Dallas. He is wheel chair bound due to a spinal defect. However hes one of the most lively kids I know his age. He lives and dies for basketball and more importantly he lives and dies for the Mavs This past week you guys had a meet the Mavs night and he spent sooooo much time talking about how excited he was. He loves all of you guys, and he watches EVERY SINGLE GAME! Hes been to american airlines once for a game and wouldnt stop talking about it for weeks on end afterwards

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    Mark,
    I am a dear friend of **. He actually taught me how to make my
    first free throw playing in the alley when I was 6.

    You all may know him from MAVS games, as he was a huge fan and became
    famous during one half time performance as seen in the YOUTUBE video here

    Sadly, he died tragically on Thursday morning while flying as a passenger
    in a fighter jet outside of dallas.

    I am working on a video montage for his funeral, which will be held at
    **** Church at 10 am on Tuesday.
    I would love to have the original video sent over if anyone in the
    organization has it, to include in his slideshow.

    ----

    Dear Mark
    My mother is the biggest Mavericks fan you will ever meet. She literally never misses a game screaming and cheering in the middle of the living room the entire time. Recently, she was diagnosed with breast cancer. Through it all, she has still managed to watch almost every game. Last week, she had a double mastectomy. We are thrilled to say that all of the cancer was removed and no chemo or radiation are needed. My mom and dad have been through so much over the last 2 months. This has been the hardest thing they have handled in 37 years of marriage. They fought it and beat it together every step of the way. I am so proud of their love for each other, and they deserve a night out together when she is back on her feet. I would love to be able ************** to a Mavs game. I figured it was worth a shot to email you. I appreciate you taking the time to read my email. I know you are having a rough season, but we all love you as an owner. Hang in there. The MAVS will be back in no time.

    ----

    These experiences are not unique to the Mavs. I’m sure all college and pro teams have similar commitments to community. But sometimes it helps to remind everyone of the role sports play in our lives and that its not just about wins and losses or TV contracts. No city has ever thrown a parade for a local company that has had a great quarter or year. Sports are a special part of our lives and that will not ever change
    I wonder how Simon's heart and sentiments about this team compare to Mark's?

    Cuban is a pretty amazing owner.

    Is there a way to start reaching out to Simon the same way Dallas fans seem to reach out to him?
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    Re: "The Mavericks are a Business"

    Originally posted by docpaul View Post
    Great blog post by Mark Cuban:

    http://blogmaverick.com/2013/02/12/t...ike-any-other/

    I wonder how Simon's heart and sentiments about this team compare to Mark's?

    Cuban is a pretty amazing owner.

    Is there a way to start reaching out to Simon the same way Dallas fans seem to reach out to him?
    Herb Simon's commitment to the Indiana Pacers & even to the city of Indianapolis should be without question. There simply is no way to compare the two owners and quite frankly IMO we have the best owner in the NBA.

    Mark Cuban is a 54 year old billionaire who made his money working with computers and very early social networking.

    Herb Simon is a 71 year old billionaire who made his money in real estate.

    It is completely unrealistic to expect Mr. Simon to be either comfortable with or proficient in using social media or even direct contact with fans. Mr. Simon is a very private person while Mr. Cuban is a publicity seeker, the two probably could not be more different if they tried.

    It's nice that Mark does this with his fans but I don't hold it against Herb Simon that he doesn't.


    Basketball isn't played with computers, spreadsheets, and simulations. ChicagoJ 4/21/13

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    • #3
      Re: "The Mavericks are a Business"

      Good stuff.. Love reading about goodness in the world, sports or otherwise.
      Reggie Miller is a God. Period.

      Passion. Pride. Pacers.

      It's ALWAYS Miller Time.
      #31 & Only

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      • #4
        Re: "The Mavericks are a Business"

        I really like Cuban, think he's a great owner and great for the league.

        But this is completely self fellating. If you have any doubt about Herb Simon's love for Indianapolis you need to pay better attention.

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        • #5
          Re: "The Mavericks are a Business"

          Originally posted by Peck View Post
          Herb Simon's commitment to the Indiana Pacers & even to the city of Indianapolis should be without question. There simply is no way to compare the two owners and quite frankly IMO we have the best owner in the NBA.

          Mark Cuban is a 54 year old billionaire who made his money working with computers and very early social networking.

          Herb Simon is a 71 year old billionaire who made his money in real estate.

          It is completely unrealistic to expect Mr. Simon to be either comfortable with or proficient in using social media or even direct contact with fans. Mr. Simon is a very private person while Mr. Cuban is a publicity seeker, the two probably could not be more different if they tried.

          It's nice that Mark does this with his fans but I don't hold it against Herb Simon that he doesn't.
          Hopefully, you didn't think I was implying that Simon was somehow deficient as an owner? I for one am grateful!

          However, I don't think it's unrealistic for the owner of the Pacers to be approachable, whether via social media or some other form. Whether that's his style or not is a different story.

          I do wonder whether part of evolving public's perceptions of the Pacers might involve some more fundamental outreach to the community.

          Within Dallas, the Mavs are clearly part of the culture... and at some level, part of that relates to how the organization is led and how it's leadership communicates with the community.

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          • #6
            Re: "The Mavericks are a Business"

            Originally posted by Heisenberg View Post

            But this is completely self fellating.
            Self fellating?!?
            LOL
            I think you mean to say "self-ELATING" ..... fellating .... haha **snicker**snicker**




            Speaking of self fellating...

            I had a dog once who used to do that quite often....

            One day, he happened to be "doin' the deed" , while sitting on our couch ..
            Unfortunately, while going to town, he fell off the couch and broke his neck...




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            .



            Sure do miss Spot ....


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            Last edited by Kemo; 02-14-2013, 07:50 AM.
            "Political Correctness is a doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end."

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            • #7
              Re: "The Mavericks are a Business"

              Originally posted by Peck View Post
              Herb Simon's commitment to the Indiana Pacers & even to the city of Indianapolis should be without question. There simply is no way to compare the two owners and quite frankly IMO we have the best owner in the NBA.

              Mark Cuban is a 54 year old billionaire who made his money working with computers and very early social networking.

              Herb Simon is a 71 year old billionaire who made his money in real estate.

              It is completely unrealistic to expect Mr. Simon to be either comfortable with or proficient in using social media or even direct contact with fans. Mr. Simon is a very private person while Mr. Cuban is a publicity seeker, the two probably could not be more different if they tried.

              It's nice that Mark does this with his fans but I don't hold it against Herb Simon that he doesn't.
              I'll ad a bit to what you have said.

              Cuban lives right there. He is at every game, and sees all these things first hand. Herb lives in California. He is at a few games, time to time. He does not see, first hand, all the things being done by the organization.

              What is the point? The difference is like watching a game in person, as opposed to seeing it on TV. You might say the two experiences are the same as the difference between a "hands on" owner, and a "hands off" owner. Cuban is very "hands on", while (what we know of him anyway) Simon is more "hands off".

              I think the approach Cuban takes lends itself to a much more direct involvement with the fans, and their feelings, than the way Simon does it. That doesn't mean Simon doesn't care, or that he is wrong in his approach, but I think Cuban has a much better direct link his his fan base. A better "finger on the pulse", if you will.

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              • #8
                Re: "The Mavericks are a Business"

                Cuban = "Gets it"

                Lou Amundson helped Frank Vogel become a better coach last year when he called Frank out about not being the voice of his team on the court.

                I bring this up because through all of his antics, Cuban stands up for his "business", his Franchise, his team, his fans, his city and nobody can EVER say otherwise.

                The fact that he carries the success and failure on HIS shoulders and has the "pulse" at his fingertips is unquestioned.

                My Cubs could have had something special with ole Mark Cuban... Big Mistake Chicago and MLB...

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                • #9
                  Re: "The Mavericks are a Business"

                  I think both Simon and Cuban are great owners, but as people they are opposites.

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                  • #10
                    Re: "The Mavericks are a Business"

                    I think that Simon is a great and loyal owner. However, I'm not sure that he's as determined to win championships as Mark Cuban. Herb would definitely love for the Pacers to win one, don't get me wrong. Mark is just willing to take a lot more risks to try and get one. Mark Cuban has fielded 2 Finals teams and won 1 championship so I think it's hard to argue with his results.


                    Under the new CBA we're starting to see Mark show some fiscal responsibility by shedding a lot of salary but he's still taking risks. I have a strong feeling he'll be putting a big bid in on Dwight Howard this summer. If he doesn't cash in he'll run the risk of having a lottery team next year. The Pacers and Simon would never take a risk like that.

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                    • #11
                      Re: "The Mavericks are a Business"

                      Originally posted by naptownmenace View Post
                      I think that Simon is a great and loyal owner. However, I'm not sure that he's as determined to win championships as Mark Cuban. Herb would definitely love for the Pacers to win one, don't get me wrong. Mark is just willing to take a lot more risks to try and get one. Mark Cuban has fielded 2 Finals teams and won 1 championship so I think it's hard to argue with his results.


                      Under the new CBA we're starting to see Mark show some fiscal responsibility by shedding a lot of salary but he's still taking risks. I have a strong feeling he'll be putting a big bid in on Dwight Howard this summer. If he doesn't cash in he'll run the risk of having a lottery team next year. The Pacers and Simon would never take a risk like that.
                      To be fair, Mavs fans would come back

                      Would Pacers fans?

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                      • #12
                        Re: "The Mavericks are a Business"

                        FTR, I LOVE LOVE LOVE Cuban.

                        I love damn near everything he does, and I esp. love how connected to the fans he is.

                        That said, Mr. Simon is a great owner IMO (though I did not know he lived out of state, not that it matters) and I think one can be hands off and still do a great job.

                        Diffrent men, but I do beleive they both care greatly about their teams and community.

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