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  • Re: It's amazing how ignorant our city is

    I don't really agree that Indy is fairweather any moreso than any other city. I get the feeling that they would have the crowds had the franchise not gone through what they did in 2004-2006 with the incidents on and off court. Attendance before that was very high for years. I think a lot of people tuned out the Pacers then and have since replaced them with something else in their lives. I know a lot of people who just don't know a damn thing about he Pacers anymore, and when I bring them up, the first thing they say is, "I don't support those thugs." Yes --- people are still saying that... a LOT of people. The image issue has stuck unfortunately... the Pacers biggest challenge is projecting this new image to the entire state and showing that image is long behind them.

    I do think the numbers will go up and attendance will return... it's just not going to be fast like in other markets that haven't suffered what Indy suffered. Mark my words... what the Pacer fans of 2004-2006 endured is unlike what any other fanbase has had to endure, so we don't fit the typical criteria. Saying the Rangers or whoever had instant increases in numbers doesn't mean anything --- they didn't have the stigma that Indy had to fight against. In a 2-3 year period, we went from being Championship hopefuls..... to watching Artest charge the stands, JO throw a home run cut at a fan, Tinsley waving poles around, Jackson and Tinsley involved in off court incidents, court hearings... Reggie's final days and the pain of him not winning a championship and then retiring..... I mean, think about that. That's a ton of **** to throw at a fan base. Once Reggie left, there was no desire for anyone to even pay attention to them anymore, they had been hurt and embarrassed and finally sad to see their hero go with no replacement in sight.

    It's going to be a slow healing process... and it already has been a healing process. The numbers are slowly going up. The locker room has slowly been changed over. The post-season success is slowly coming back. They are doing the right things, but they're going to have to be patient, give this another year or two.

    Indy has very loyal fans... they are loyal to the Colts (now that they are established, they weren't loyal at all for the first 15 years)... they are loyal to IU... the rest of the colleges. It's only the Pacers that are going through this. I don't really consider Pacer fans fairweather... I consider them snake-bitten. And Indiana people tend to be hard in their ways, even against logic.
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    • Re: It's amazing how ignorant our city is

      Originally posted by TinManJoshua View Post
      I've lived in three major metropolitan areas. Chicago, Cleveland, and Columbus,OH. When I lived in Indiana I lived in Bloomington, and spent a whole lot of time in Indy.

      Indy is the most white-bread, clean, safe of all of them(I felt safer in Cleveland than the others too, shocker I know) The homeless traffic is mild, too. These excuses to me are the epitome of sheltered middle class bull hockey. "It's a city so it must be dangerous!"
      Unless somebody changed their name to protect the innocent the person listed their name as Candy Partin. Why wouldn't a female(s) feel nervous? Also can't forget that when the games start in November it gets dark earlier. It is a little different walking down the street in the dark than when it is light out.
      Last edited by RWB; 02-11-2013, 02:18 PM.
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      • Re: It's amazing how ignorant our city is

        Even though I was once hustled as a youngster, it was my own fault. I have never felt unsafe in downtown, nor do I feel safe taking my own family downtown now. I am, however, a little short on the funds to do so very often. I still love this team, watch every game, and follow them closely. I'm just not in attendance very often, and believe me I wish I was.
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        • Re: It's amazing how ignorant our city is

          Originally posted by Anthem View Post
          The fundamental difference between the NFL and the NBA: an NFL uniform covers more skin.
          A starter on your basketball team gets in legal trouble and it's 1/5th of your starting lineup. A starter on your football team gets in legal trouble and it's 1/11th of your starting lineup... and that's assuming we break it down to offense and defense... otherwise it's 1/22nd of your starting lineup overall. Let alone if you do the percentage of the team overall.

          Now factor in a lineup of Tins, Sjax, Artest, Harrison, Williams... et al and do the percentages...

          And would everyone quit using the brawl as the point fans turned up their noses. The fans hung tough with the team after the brawl. It was the team's followup season to the brawl when the wheels came off. No Reggie. Artest and JO still unable to co-exist... Tinsley's sinuboozepoutinitis... Sjax... JO's divastic 'domination'... Artest's trade demand... incidents... Reggie's jersey retirement game where the team were burned by the Suns... whining... pouting... arguing...

          And then the hits kept coming... Guns, weed, incidents... losses... molasses slow front office.... hanging with murderers... strip clubs... mysterious illnesses... "conduct detrimental to the team"... distractions.... Bender bust... drug suspensions... a trade that cash strapped the team and didn't really fix the losing or allow for a light at the end of the tunnel... Jim O'Brien who talked like the 2nd coming of Bob Knight and coached like George from Hoosiers ("Can't score if you don't shoot")... stretch 4 matador...

          THAT is how things declined. The brawl itself was a blip... ultimately it was a symptom of the cancer that was growing inside the team...
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          • Re: It's amazing how ignorant our city is

            Originally posted by Bball View Post
            The brawl itself was a blip
            While I mostly agree with the direction you are going with it, this is a gross and unfair understatement. The brawl continued to be one of those things that the national media used to reinforce the notion that the Pacers were a team of *insert non-racist word meaning people who choose violence as their primary response*.

            It is MUCH more than a blip in the history of the team. Just because it wasn't the sole cause of the problems with how people perceived the team doesn't somehow minimize its impact as an event.
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            • Re: It's amazing how ignorant our city is

              Makes me feel like puking. Seriously.

              It makes me very ill reading some of this stupidity. They need to realize it's a finger to themselves. The Pacers grab media attention and the empty seats is an embarrassment to all of the city.

              Look at the Portland Trail Blazers. Their fans were directly insulted. Bonzi Wells pretty much said at time, the team could care less about the fans. They're attendance fell after that. Now they draw much better.

              Not that the Colts have any bad guys, but the NFL is infested with thuggery and arrests. In the NBA, you very rarely hear about a player being arrested nowadays.

              I don't think that's the reason. I think some people are really trolling because the playoffs were standing room only crowds.

              Back to the Colts, 60,000+ will attend those games. Over 100% capacity to spend over $100 for one game, then parking, food, etc.

              Regardless, too many people in life out way the good with the bad.

              I know some people prefer college over professional sports, but it's still basketball and the Pacers are honestly one of the last teams you would think would be so low in attendance. The Pacers are what you want out of professional athletes.

              Indiana is a great sports state. Indy is a great sports city. Attendance will go up, but again, WHEN?
              Last edited by Trophy; 02-11-2013, 03:46 PM.

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              • Re: It's amazing how ignorant our city is

                Originally posted by RWB View Post
                I think the one thing we're forgetting when discussing feeling safe (what's the problem?) we're looking at it through a man's perspective. I know Mrs. RWB feels safe when we're walking to a game, but I can guarantee if for some reason we have tickets and I have to miss it she's not going to ask a female friend to go instead. Back in the MSA days she would and did.

                Part of the reason is the pan-handling and folks being approached for money. Last year I had to tell a guy to back off who was trying to take advantage of someone who didn't know better.

                Here's the story.... I brought a group of Brazilian students to a game and before hand we stop off and eat in the South PTO lot Arbys. Now understand they're all adults in their early 20s so it is not like I have to hold their hand. However this guy approaches one of the tables and I watch one of our students get up and follow this guy toward the front of the store. Of course I immediately get up and shake my head no and tell Eduardo its ok just go back to your table and I'll take care of this. So this scam artist proceeds to tell me it aint right these Arabs come over here for free and what does it hurt for them to give me some money when they don't need it. Needless to say my conversation didn't end there but I won't get into that. Bottom line.... there is a legit concern with this going on outside of BLF.

                Side note: This shouldn't make any difference to the story but in case someone was wondering this @sshole was white.
                Re: bolded part. Are you sure? By which I mean...I know there is a widespread assumption that posters are male unless otherwise noted. But there are active women (more than a couple) on this board. They don't usually stand up and say so, but they are around!

                Obviously people feel the way they feel. We all have different backgrounds and experiences and that is going to have an impact. I've almost always felt safe in downtown Indy, day or night. Then again, I've lived in SoCal for over a decade now and having been in LA a lot...I think being in any really big city re-sets expectations.

                Crazy story about the pandhandler. Arabs? Really? There is a lot of diversity in terms of the way Brazilians look but that still seems weird to me.
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                • Re: It's amazing how ignorant our city is

                  Originally posted by boombaby1987 View Post
                  What exactly about homeless people on corners makes it unsafe?
                  A woman got beat up just last week (maybe 2 weeks ago?) by a homeless guy outside one of the hotels...

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                  • Re: It's amazing how ignorant our city is

                    Originally posted by mrpeters View Post
                    A woman got beat up just last week (maybe 2 weeks ago?) by a homeless guy outside one of the hotels...
                    One random isolated incident. Can you find me the article?
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                    • Re: It's amazing how ignorant our city is

                      Originally posted by kielbeze View Post
                      No the games are not brodcast locally. This is one thing that ticks me off and is a major reason causal fans have no clue. FSI is not locally. Locally is any channel you can get on an antenna without paying. If our games were on WTHR like the colts I think a lot more people would see us play. I know we cant have every game during prime time on a local network. But we should at least be able to get a few games here and there on Channel 4 or something.

                      Yes but even IU and Purdue are no longer on that channel. Times have changed and they aren't going back to the way they were

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                      • Re: It's amazing how ignorant our city is

                        Originally posted by gummy View Post
                        Re: bolded part. Are you sure? By which I mean...I know there is a widespread assumption that posters are male unless otherwise noted. But there are active women (more than a couple) on this board. They don't usually stand up and say so, but they are around!

                        Obviously people feel the way they feel. We all have different backgrounds and experiences and that is going to have an impact. I've almost always felt safe in downtown Indy, day or night. Then again, I've lived in SoCal for over a decade now and having been in LA a lot...I think being in any really big city re-sets expectations.

                        Crazy story about the pandhandler. Arabs? Really? There is a lot of diversity in terms of the way Brazilians look but that still seems weird to me.
                        Gummy I am not implying at all there are only male posters on PD. I was referring to the link/post on the first page (WTHR 13) that started this discussion. Someone alluded to the idea basically Indy is very safe so why would anyone make that type of remark. My response was that a lady in that facebook discussion brought up that point she didn't feel safe. I just thought members would have to see the situation through her eyes to understand why she said that.

                        As to panhandlers, Arabs, really? You don't have to believe the story and all I can say is every word is true. I've been in the business of protecting people a long time and have no need to make things up.
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                        • Re: It's amazing how ignorant our city is

                          Originally posted by RWB View Post
                          Gummy I am not implying at all there are only male posters on PD. I was referring to the link/post on the first page (WTHR 13) that started this discussion. Someone alluded to the idea basically Indy is very safe so why would anyone make that type of remark. My response was that a lady in that facebook discussion brought up that point she didn't feel safe. I just thought members would have to see the situation through her eyes to understand why she said that.

                          As to panhandlers, Arabs, really? You don't have to believe the story and all I can say is every word is true. I've been in the business of protecting people a long time and have no need to make things up.
                          Huh?

                          You seem to have misunderstood my last comment, which I suppose I could have made clearer! I was not at all suggesting that you made up the story. I was amazed that the guy could be so ignorant as to identify Brazilians as Arabs. Most Brazilians look nothing like Arabs, so it seemed crazy to me. But I guess a lot of people have no idea what Brazilians look like in general.
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                          • Re: It's amazing how ignorant our city is

                            I'm not reading through this thread and forgive me if this has already been mentioned but I'm much more concerned about the collective intelligence of my fair city if we're basing it on Facebook comments than anything said within them.
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                            • Re: It's amazing how ignorant our city is

                              Originally posted by Ace E.Anderson View Post
                              Even even the team was good in the 90's our attendance was middling. (I forget where I read that, but I do believe it was a post by unclebuck, though I could be wrong)

                              Indiana is definitely a fair weather state. We were so bad for so long, I just feel it's going to take some time to get the city and the state to come out to a game against the Pelicans on a Tuesday.

                              I was at the raptors game on Friday, which was reasonably packed. When we lost, I overheard quite a few ppl saying they weren't going to come see this team play again. All because they lost to the raptors lol. I wanted to tell at them and say "WE'VE ONLY LOST HERE 4 TIMES ALL YEAR!!" But it definitely opened my eyes. We HAVE to continue to be dominant at home if we want to improve our attendance more.

                              Our attendance is up a bit from last year, so hey it's a start.
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                              • Re: It's amazing how ignorant our city is

                                This was one post on their facebook page

                                Doron Pinchas "I can't believe the STUPIDITY of most of these Indiana locals.... About 3 years ago, I spent 3 days in Indianapolis and went to a Pacers game. I walked all over downtown Indianapolis before the game and did not see ANY bums or crime or anything "ghetto"- downtown Indy is CLEAN and family friendly... and I spent $14 for my ticket which is a bargain. People do NOT have to eat the stadium food... after all the point of going to a game is to watch PACERS BASKETBALL not eat the food... if I lived in Indianapolis I would be at the fieldhouse EVERY game, but if the locals won't support them, I'd be glad to have the Pacers move here to NYC"

                                Amen!!
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