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    Default Re: Who to draft? Burke or Oladipo?

    Quote Originally Posted by TinManJoshua View Post
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    I see a lot of "I wouldn't waste an early first round pick on Zeller" from the IU fans. Heck, if Tyler Zeller gets selected in the first round Cody will be too. Cody's better than Tyler Z.

    If you think that the IU fans on this board are championing Victor as pick 1 then I don't think you can read very well.
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    Zeller will not be a good NBA player and neither will Oladipo
    I would certainly like a wager on that thought. Of course 5 years from now you would no doubt weasel about what you meant by being "a good NBA player" and say something like "See, he has not made any all-star teams after being picked 13th!" while ignoring the fact that nobody says either of these two players being discussed is likely ever going to be an NBA all-star. Most GOOD drafts have about 3-5 players with all-star potential, and few envision this as a good draft year.

    To me a pick in the 11-20 range is a very good one if he becomes a rotation player and earns a second NBA contract with teh rteam that drafted him. A pick in the 5-10 range comes with some more expectations, but if he becomes a starter and earns a second NBA contract with the team that drafted him, I'd think that it means he was a good pick too.

    I'd put Zeller in the 5-10 range and Oladipo in the 11-20 range. Based on what NBA draftniks are saying, such evaluations are not tainted in the least by any IU homerism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slick Pinkham View Post
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    I would certainly like a wager on that thought. Of course 5 years from now you would no doubt weasel about what you meant by being "a good NBA player" and say something like "See, he has not made any all-star teams after being picked 13th!" while ignoring the fact that nobody says either of these two players being discussed is likely ever going to be an NBA all-star. Most GOOD drafts have about 3-5 players with all-star potential, and few envision this as a good draft year.

    To me a pick in the 11-20 range is a very good one if he becomes a rotation player and earns a second NBA contract with teh rteam that drafted him. A pick in the 5-10 range comes with some more expectations, but if he becomes a starter and earns a second NBA contract with the team that drafted him, I'd think that it means he was a good pick too.

    I'd put Zeller in the 5-10 range and Victor in the 11-20 range. Based on what NBA draftniks are saying, such evaluations are not tainted in the least by any IU homerism.
    They both do not have All star potential
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    They both do not have All star potential
    That's an entirely different statement than saying, as you did, that neither will be a good NBA player.

    I don't see ANYBODY AT ALL saying that they will be all-stars. Thus you seem to be involved in a heated argument with precisely nobody, and yet you cannot even come to grips with that thought!

    The Pacers will picking in the 20s, and you argue that not picking one of the 2-3 players with all-star potential would mean it would be a wasted pick. Does that not strike you as insanely illogical?
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    Default Re: Who to draft? Burke or Oladipo?

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    Shouldn't you be devising a defense that can defend a layup like the Illinois game?
    Just out of curiosity...how old are you?

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    Default Re: Who to draft? Burke or Oladipo?

    Oladipo will be picked before Zeller IMO.

    Though Zeller may have someone reach on him now with Noel's injury appearing pretty serious. Though I would not do that. (Coopdog23 will interpret this post like this "Zeller will be picked number 1, Oladipo will be picked number 2. They will both revolutionize and define their positions, nay, the game of basketball itself for the next 15 years on their way to 15 straight NBA Finals appearances against each other that will be so epic, they will just rename the NBA the Zelladipo Basketball Association")

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    Default Re: Who to draft? Burke or Oladipo?

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    You need to read the other pages
    I did.

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    I did.
    But did you read them with your coopdog23 decoder ring?

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    Default Re: Who to draft? Burke or Oladipo?

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    These IU fans think they're going to be the first two picks just because they go to IU
    Dude, what the hell? No one said this.
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    Dude, what the hell? No one said this.
    yes they do
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    But did you read them with your coopdog23 decoder ring?
    its okay zeller will blow in the nba along with oladipo. you dont have to cry about it
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    Default Re: Who to draft? Burke or Oladipo?

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    Just out of curiosity...how old are you?
    doesnt matter because my basketball knowledge is years in advance compared to yours
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    Default Re: Who to draft? Burke or Oladipo?

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    That's an entirely different statement than saying, as you did, that neither will be a good NBA player.

    I don't see ANYBODY AT ALL saying that they will be all-stars. Thus you seem to be involved in a heated argument with precisely nobody, and yet you cannot even come to grips with that thought!

    The Pacers will picking in the 20s, and you argue that not picking one of the 2-3 players with all-star potential would mean it would be a wasted pick. Does that not strike you as insanely illogical?
    It's pretty much the same thing
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    Default Re: Who to draft? Burke or Oladipo?

    At this point you're just trolling. Grow up.
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    Default Re: Who to draft? Burke or Oladipo?

    OlBlu better jump back in here--Coopdog is trolling this thread harder than he ever did.

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    Default Re: Who to draft? Burke or Oladipo?

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    doesnt matter because my basketball knowledge is years in advance compared to yours
    I won't say it.

    However, I am curious to hear your scouting report involving players that don't go to IU.

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    doesnt matter because my basketball knowledge is years in advance compared to yours
    so 13

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coopdog23 View Post
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    doesnt matter because my basketball knowledge is years in advance compared to yours
    Ok thanks for the answer.

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    At this point you're just trolling. Grow up.
    why don't you while you're at it
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    Ok thanks for the answer.

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    so 13
    12 for you?
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    Default Re: Who to draft? Burke or Oladipo?

    It's too bad this thread is being destroyed because someone has decided that any topic that even involves IU must be relentlessly ruined. Lots of good insight on both Oladipo and Burke in here.

    But won't matter because Oladipo is just going to just skip the draft and start his own league that will beat out the NBA by next spring.

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    It's too bad this thread is being destroyed because someone has decided that any topic that even involves IU must be relentlessly ruined. Lots of good insight on both Oladipo and Burke in here.

    But won't matter because Oladipo is just going to just skip the draft and start his own league that will beat out the NBA by next spring.
    Kind of the whole point I started this thread. You ignorant IU fans need to understand that Oladipo is not as good as you all proclaim him to be
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    dude, go back to GBI

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